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COVID-19 - Part 2
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Is anyone really surprised about this?
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One of the most obnoxious statements I have ever read on USCHO. I LIVE in metro NY and to say it is the federal governments fault that the explosion in cases is silly. The mayor of NY was saying as little as a few weeks ago to patronize restaurants, bars, etc... Many people in NY are not obeying the stay at home directive. It has nothing to do whether they can hear or speak English. Quick question Darius, are your highbrow, sophisticated friends still in NYC or have they retreated to the Hamptons?
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And the mayor is out of touch almost as much as the person responsible. The Orange man child.
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Liberal dribble from the potato fields...
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Another koolaid drinker I see.
Darius
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Re: COVID-19 - Part 2
Sigh.
Sigh.
You totally misinterpreted my post. Please note that it was in response to a post that included "New Yorkers hate him more than they hate Trump." where "him" is Mayor De Blasio in another post that included "...de Blasio should be run outta town on a rail!"
I didn't. I said that I find myself wondering if the Federal, some state and some local governments are clueless, evil, selfish. I'll say in 10 - 12 weeks.
Correct.
Also correct.
How do you know? What about non English speakers throughout the rest of the country right now?
Not sophisticated friends, guess again. They are finishing up 4th week WFH in NYC .
HockeyRef
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Re: COVID-19 - Part 2
Jared Kuschner....in charge...really? Nobody else is qualified, capable? Loved his slam down today...don't call us, we'll call you. Said the slum lord.
It's everyone for themselves folks, that's the long and short of it. Thank God we haven't been hit in NH (yet). From today:
JARED KUSHNER: "The notion of the federal stockpile was it's supposed to be our stockpile. It's not supposed to be states stockpiles that they then use." Their stockpile? For them? Who? For a rainy day? WTAF. (Ps..our tax dollars paid for that 'stockpile' and, things do have a shelf life. But its really disheartening to hear that certain states are getting their stuff they are requesting while others are getting a pittance....)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Massachusetts only received 17% of aid requested and Maine 5%, while Florida will receive its 3rd shipment of 100% of aid requested. We’re investigating if the Strategic National Stockpile is distributing aid based on Trump’s personal preferences. <a href="https://t.co/OQEsNWrzex">https://t.co/OQEsNWrzex</a></p>— Citizens for Ethics (@CREWcrew) <a href="https://twitter.com/CREWcrew/status/1245765508156268560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Jared Kuschner....in charge...really? Nobody else is qualified, capable? Loved his slam down today...don't call us, we'll call you. Said the slum lord.
It's everyone for themselves folks, that's the long and short of it. Thank God we haven't been hit in NH (yet). From today:JARED KUSHNER: "The notion of the federal stockpile was it's supposed to be our stockpile. It's not supposed to be states stockpiles that they then use." Their stockpile? For them? Who? For a rainy day? WTAF. (Ps..our tax dollars paid for that 'stockpile' and, things do have a shelf life. But its really disheartening to hear that certain states are getting their stuff they are requesting while others are getting a pittance....)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Massachusetts only received 17% of aid requested and Maine 5%, while Florida will receive its 3rd shipment of 100% of aid requested. We’re investigating if the Strategic National Stockpile is distributing aid based on Trump’s personal preferences. <a href="https://t.co/OQEsNWrzex">https://t.co/OQEsNWrzex</a></p>— Citizens for Ethics (@CREWcrew) <a href="https://twitter.com/CREWcrew/status/1245765508156268560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Fair enough Darius, I appreciate your response. Being in NY I guess I get a flustered easily.
Darius
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Re: COVID-19 - Part 2
LOL for the 2nd time reading this. The 1st was when he said it. Why didn't someone ask him who they are saving the Federal stock pile for? Ghah! He was on stage because Dad had to leave(?) and needed an inner circle member to cover for him. Kellyanne and Hope must have been busy.Jared Kuschner....in charge...really? Nobody else is qualified, capable? Loved his slam down today...don't call us, we'll call you. Said the slum lord.
JARED KUSHNER: "The notion of the federal stockpile was it's supposed to be our stockpile. It's not supposed to be states stockpiles that they then use." Their stockpile? For them? Who? For a rainy day? WTAF. (Ps..our tax dollars paid for that 'stockpile' and, things do have a shelf life. But its really disheartening to hear that certain states are getting their stuff they are requesting while others are getting a pittance....)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Massachusetts only received 17% of aid requested and Maine 5%, while Florida will receive its 3rd shipment of 100% of aid requested. We’re investigating if the Strategic National Stockpile is distributing aid based on Trump’s personal preferences. <a href="https://t.co/OQEsNWrzex">https://t.co/OQEsNWrzex</a></p>— Citizens for Ethics (@CREWcrew) <a href="https://twitter.com/CREWcrew/status/1245765508156268560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Darius
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Re: COVID-19 - Part 2
Be safe.
My main point is that smart people with access to expert data knew what to do. Governments' job is to look out for the less fortunate, TELL them what to do.
Be safe.
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Chuck Murray
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Re: COVID-19 - Part 2
Where was the outrage last week when Gov. Cuomo used the same justification for not touching "his" stockpile (NYS), right? And further ignored his own bean-counters up in Albany, who recommended supplementing the State's stockpile (and were ignored)??
So … the Feds are left to cover for lack of planning at the State level (all 50) and then have to make allocations of their stockpiled resources across those 50 states (and a fair few territories).
Let's say Trump empties the entire stockpile of ventilators to NYC because of Gov. Cuomo's poor planning and constant kvetching. What happens then when the next underprepared state comes calling for back-up from the Federal stockpile? And then the next one?? Right now, any stockpile goes to those who NEED it NOW. Not who might need it next week or next month, or not at all. That's why the private sector has been activated to produce more ventilators to keep ahead of demand. Depletion of the Federal stockpile - a backstop to the states' own stockpiles by definition - has to be managed carefully with so many states asking for it. Imagine your state ran out, with no stockpile to draw upon, and the President just sent everything he had in the Fed stockpile to Louisiana. You want to talk about "disheartening", well, that would be it, for sure.
We live in the United States of America, not the People's Republic of America. States generally run themselves, and we have the Federal Government to basically oversee the operation, and provide shared services (like the military) to provide for ALL of the states. Cases rarely (if ever?) reach the US Supreme Court unless they've first been adjudicated in the state courts, or the Federal Courts in those states. It's why there is an Electoral College, and a whole raft of other things … too many just don't get it.
Still waiting for Mr. Eyechart and SteveO to resume their <s>cage match</s> discussion. Noticed both Michigan and Nevada have lifted restrictions on HCQ very recently. SteveO (citing a French trial) seems to have the edge over Eyechart (citing Chinese data) at the moment, but the jury is still out, and we're still working up to the definitive evidence and the closing arguments …
Barring unexpected developments, I'll be bringing in the greatest predictor of all time to tomorrow's discussion, and early returns show him bringing a mixed bag of predictions to the table …
((( … now, how's that for a teaser, eh?? 
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Where was the outrage last week when Gov. Cuomo used the same justification for not touching "his" stockpile (NYS), right? And further ignored his own bean-counters up in Albany, who recommended supplementing the State's stockpile (and were ignored)??
So … the Feds are left to cover for lack of planning at the State level (all 50) and then have to make allocations of their stockpiled resources across those 50 states (and a fair few territories).
Let's say Trump empties the entire stockpile of ventilators to NYC because of Gov. Cuomo's poor planning and constant kvetching. What happens then when the next underprepared state comes calling for back-up from the Federal stockpile? And then the next one?? Right now, any stockpile goes to those who NEED it NOW. Not who might need it next week or next month, or not at all. That's why the private sector has been activated to produce more ventilators to keep ahead of demand. Depletion of the Federal stockpile - a backstop to the states' own stockpiles by definition - has to be managed carefully with so many states asking for it. Imagine your state ran out, with no stockpile to draw upon, and the President just sent everything he had in the Fed stockpile to Louisiana. You want to talk about "disheartening", well, that would be it, for sure.
We live in the United States of America, not the People's Republic of America. States generally run themselves, and we have the Federal Government to basically oversee the operation, and provide shared services (like the military) to provide for ALL of the states. Cases rarely (if ever?) reach the US Supreme Court unless they've first been adjudicated in the state courts, or the Federal Courts in those states. It's why there is an Electoral College, and a whole raft of other things … too many just don't get it.
Still waiting for Mr. Eyechart and SteveO to resume their <s>cage match</s> discussion. Noticed both Michigan and Nevada have lifted restrictions on HCQ very recently. SteveO (citing a French trial) seems to have the edge over Eyechart (citing Chinese data) at the moment, but the jury is still out, and we're still working up to the definitive evidence and the closing arguments …
Barring unexpected developments, I'll be bringing in the greatest predictor of all time to tomorrow's discussion, and early returns show him bringing a mixed bag of predictions to the table …
((( … now, how's that for a teaser, eh??
)))
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Oh and speaking of this "stockpile" I thought the cupboards were left bare...NYC has the most need right now...people are going to die like fish out of water. Such a chit show..
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Re: COVID-19 - Part 2
Neither of us is on the ground in NYC now, but my understanding is that no patient - and I'll add the qualifier "yet" - is lacking a ventilator, there are no DNR orders in place, no one is running life v. death triage, etc. Clearly they are in the toughest situation NOW - although Louisiana is arguably on par, but less media-accessible - and the Fed have already brought up their ship, plus the Army Corps of Engineers has constructed two "hospitals" out of scratch. Supposedly the ship (so far) only has a few patients, and many open beds (and vents?). Models on projected NYC needs for beds/ICU units for this date are running well higher than actual beds/units currently in use. That could all change, admittedly. But it wouldn't be the first time scary modeling didn't materialize.
Not meant to minimize the real life situation down there, though.
Neither of us is on the ground in NYC now, but my understanding is that no patient - and I'll add the qualifier "yet" - is lacking a ventilator, there are no DNR orders in place, no one is running life v. death triage, etc. Clearly they are in the toughest situation NOW - although Louisiana is arguably on par, but less media-accessible - and the Fed have already brought up their ship, plus the Army Corps of Engineers has constructed two "hospitals" out of scratch. Supposedly the ship (so far) only has a few patients, and many open beds (and vents?). Models on projected NYC needs for beds/ICU units for this date are running well higher than actual beds/units currently in use. That could all change, admittedly. But it wouldn't be the first time scary modeling didn't materialize.
Not meant to minimize the real life situation down there, though.
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Re: COVID-19 - Part 2
Can someone objectively explain to me why that Naval officer was relieved of his command aboard the aircraft carrier Roosevelt? I've read the letter. He had 100 men test positive for C-19 for God's sake. And Rush gets the medal of freedom? And that sadist Gallagher gets a pardon? Irony is dead...among a few other things.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As I feared a couple days ago, Capt. Brett Crozier will pay a high price for protecting his Sailors.<br><br>I can assure you, he knew he was likely sacrificing his career when he did it. That fact just makes his outcry more heroic and patriotic. <a href="https://t.co/zYkxguaNjO">https://t.co/zYkxguaNjO</a></p>— Proud Navy Veteran ��
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Can someone objectively explain to me why that Naval officer was relieved of his command aboard the aircraft carrier Roosevelt? I've read the letter. He had 100 men test positive for C-19 for God's sake. And Rush gets the medal of freedom? And that sadist Gallagher gets a pardon? Irony is dead...among a few other things.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As I feared a couple days ago, Capt. Brett Crozier will pay a high price for protecting his Sailors.<br><br>I can assure you, he knew he was likely sacrificing his career when he did it. That fact just makes his outcry more heroic and patriotic. <a href="https://t.co/zYkxguaNjO">https://t.co/zYkxguaNjO</a></p>— Proud Navy Veteran ��
️���� (@naretevduorp) <a href="https://twitter.com/naretevduorp/status/1245825766752948232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Re: COVID-19 - Part 2
If what Cuomo predicts pans out, the apex hasn't been reached...yet. Remains to be seen just how that will pan out. This is far from over. We can sit up here in the safety of our state and look at them 300 mere miles away when they might as well be down the street. Nurses and docs have died there. Principal of a school. Bodies in refrigerated trucks....I'd say, it's bad enough. Meanwhile...
11pm pdt USA
Cases: 245,373
Deaths: 6,095
Mortality: 2.48%
If what Cuomo predicts pans out, the apex hasn't been reached...yet. Remains to be seen just how that will pan out. This is far from over. We can sit up here in the safety of our state and look at them 300 mere miles away when they might as well be down the street. Nurses and docs have died there. Principal of a school. Bodies in refrigerated trucks....I'd say, it's bad enough. Meanwhile...
11pm pdt USA
Cases: 245,373
Deaths: 6,095
Mortality: 2.48%
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Are you thinking the same thing I'm thinking acs? Could it be? China taking advantage of the situation is all too convenient!
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Its a National Emergency said the orangeman. Its actually a war he says. Times like these is when the country follows their leader and rallies around him.........
But wait, not MY problem he now says. Its the states problem. So, New Hampshire, next time those (people who don't look like us) need a spanking, send that famous N.H. State Army overseas to solve it. How come Hawaii couldn't stop the Japanese at Pearl Harbor, or actually their island hopping invasions that followed? You want to become a state so act like it. Its the states problem, correct? NY, shame on you. You should have been better prepared for 9/11. Maine, you are geographically the closest to Europe and the Nazi invasions in WW2. No need for the Feds to get involved in any of the above as the states are responsible.
With the arrival of the Trump Viruses(now takes on a double meaning), this is where we are at now at as a country. Replace any motto like "In God We Trust" to just "Selfish" or even better "How's my Ratings". That sums it up.
Just a disgusting piece of crap lathered in fake tan juice whose man girdle is too tight...............
Its a National Emergency said the orangeman. Its actually a war he says. Times like these is when the country follows their leader and rallies around him.........
But wait, not MY problem he now says. Its the states problem. So, New Hampshire, next time those (people who don't look like us) need a spanking, send that famous N.H. State Army overseas to solve it. How come Hawaii couldn't stop the Japanese at Pearl Harbor, or actually their island hopping invasions that followed? You want to become a state so act like it. Its the states problem, correct? NY, shame on you. You should have been better prepared for 9/11. Maine, you are geographically the closest to Europe and the Nazi invasions in WW2. No need for the Feds to get involved in any of the above as the states are responsible.
With the arrival of the Trump Viruses(now takes on a double meaning), this is where we are at now at as a country. Replace any motto like "In God We Trust" to just "Selfish" or even better "How's my Ratings". That sums it up.
Just a disgusting piece of crap lathered in fake tan juice whose man girdle is too tight...............
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