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COVID-19 - Part 2
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Re: COVID-19 - Part 2
You just don't do this in the military. Chain of command is(was) important. I actually do not feel sorry for him losing command. Mission readiness really applies still in some places in our government, just not at the Trump White house. You don't advertise your readiness as in "my ship is full of sick people and not ready". Big no no with repercussions. But, he did what he thought was right, and I'm sure he felt he was protecting his men. I would have done the same with the understanding I will get bent over the barrel on it. Its a "conscious" thing and personal decision you'd have to live with. In other words, right decision with sadly the right outcome.
Can someone objectively explain to me why that Naval officer was relieved of his command aboard the aircraft carrier Roosevelt? I've read the letter. He had 100 men test positive for C-19 for God's sake. And Rush gets the medal of freedom? And that sadist Gallagher gets a pardon? Irony is dead...among a few other things.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As I feared a couple days ago, Capt. Brett Crozier will pay a high price for protecting his Sailors.<br><br>I can assure you, he knew he was likely sacrificing his career when he did it. That fact just makes his outcry more heroic and patriotic. <a href="https://t.co/zYkxguaNjO">https://t.co/zYkxguaNjO</a></p>— Proud Navy Veteran ��️���� (@naretevduorp) <a href="https://twitter.com/naretevduorp/status/1245825766752948232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
You just don't do this in the military. Chain of command is(was) important. I actually do not feel sorry for him losing command. Mission readiness really applies still in some places in our government, just not at the Trump White house. You don't advertise your readiness as in "my ship is full of sick people and not ready". Big no no with repercussions. But, he did what he thought was right, and I'm sure he felt he was protecting his men. I would have done the same with the understanding I will get bent over the barrel on it. Its a "conscious" thing and personal decision you'd have to live with. In other words, right decision with sadly the right outcome.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Good data.
There’s always some room for noise in the data: I’d have a hard time believing that testing (and as a result: known infections) is able to keep pace with the actual number of infections.
Between the limited capacity of our medical system and the mildness of the symptoms for many (it’s evidently easy to carry/spread without being confident that you have enough symptoms), I’m assuming that there’s a large number of unknown cases. It’s a major reason why I expect our reaction (as insanely drastic as it has been) has been necessary.
Darius
Go 'cats!
Re: COVID-19 - Part 2
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52137160
She described a patient being brought in from an old people's home. He was already on a ventilator - and was "chronically vent dependent". His prospects were never great. But all she could see before her was the ventilator - and not the patient.
"When he came in we were so desperate for vents," she told me, "all I wanted to do was get the ventilator off him. I wanted to get that vent off him to allow it to go to someone else."
Coronavirus: The young doctors being asked to play god:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52137160
She described a patient being brought in from an old people's home. He was already on a ventilator - and was "chronically vent dependent". His prospects were never great. But all she could see before her was the ventilator - and not the patient.
"When he came in we were so desperate for vents," she told me, "all I wanted to do was get the ventilator off him. I wanted to get that vent off him to allow it to go to someone else."
Darius
Go 'cats!
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Don't take your eyes off Russia else we'll be deploying submarine nets at the Portsmouth harbor entrance by summer.
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Plenty of equipment HE says. Here's a fact: Daughter, RN, largest hospital in Maine, is given a surgical mask and a paper bag to store it in. Day long use, then reuse the next day, and so forth. Trump virus be ****ed, keep using the same mask with minimal protection. Was told "expect to get sick". For now, they are going to make their own.........
Don't believe the B.S. HE is spreading to his lemmings as they cash their tainted "vote for me" check.
Plenty of equipment HE says. Here's a fact: Daughter, RN, largest hospital in Maine, is given a surgical mask and a paper bag to store it in. Day long use, then reuse the next day, and so forth. Trump virus be ****ed, keep using the same mask with minimal protection. Was told "expect to get sick". For now, they are going to make their own.........
Don't believe the B.S. HE is spreading to his lemmings as they cash their tainted "vote for me" check.
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As it should be
. Its the states responsibility to deal with that Russian threat, not the White(orange) House. That New Hampshire Navy will protect us.
As it should be
. Its the states responsibility to deal with that Russian threat, not the White(orange) House. That New Hampshire Navy will protect us.
Darius
Go 'cats!
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I've been trying to find the 50 state graph Dr. Birx showed a few days ago. It is meaningful, but gives a false sense of security as indicated by the President's remarks yesterday. The problem is that the X axis is static, but the virus begin date by state is not so the graph presents all states except NY, NJ as flat. If the start date, based on first positive test or first reported death, for each state was dynamic then we'd see that while things look good in many states, those states are on a different timeline than NY, NJ.
Note to the President: referring to the non NY, NJ states as the "flat lining" states is probably not a good idea. Not, yet anyway.
Good one. Thanks.
I've been trying to find the 50 state graph Dr. Birx showed a few days ago. It is meaningful, but gives a false sense of security as indicated by the President's remarks yesterday. The problem is that the X axis is static, but the virus begin date by state is not so the graph presents all states except NY, NJ as flat. If the start date, based on first positive test or first reported death, for each state was dynamic then we'd see that while things look good in many states, those states are on a different timeline than NY, NJ.
Note to the President: referring to the non NY, NJ states as the "flat lining" states is probably not a good idea. Not, yet anyway.
Darius
Go 'cats!
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The President declared himself a war time President. Act like it.
Paraphrasing Governor Inslee last night, "When the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, did the Federal government tell the states to find their own armaments, let the states know that the Federal government had some, but wanted to keep them and that if the states found themselves bidding against each other to give the Feds a call?"
The President declared himself a war time President. Act like it.
Darius
Go 'cats!
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Two of their vessels are in the harbor daily, typically around the shipyard. The shipyard was working on 2, 3 boats until recently. NH probably should have conscripted them when we had the chance.
https://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/fob/marine-patrol/index.htmlAs it should be
Two of their vessels are in the harbor daily, typically around the shipyard. The shipyard was working on 2, 3 boats until recently. NH probably should have conscripted them when we had the chance.
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Excellent point Darius
I'm sure our good friends in the Kremlin would NEVER take advantage of this situation
Darius
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The above is sort of, kind of tongue in cheek so please y'all, don't flame me over it, but the world order or at least its PWR is changing.
We deploy ships to counter the current cocaine scourge. (Huh?). Fentanyl ships in from China. Meth from the Ozarks. China ramps up in the South China Sea. The Russians destroy our oil industry.Excellent point Darius
The above is sort of, kind of tongue in cheek so please y'all, don't flame me over it, but the world order or at least its PWR is changing.
If you're looking for something to watch on Netflix, third season of Ozark is now available. Highly recommend it.
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Timothy A
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It's not and here's why. My niece has all the symptoms. She face-timed with her doctor. Her doctor told her this: "You have it. Stay quarantined (with your husband and 2 kids), unless you get to the point where you have an exceedingly hard time breathing, then get to the ER ASAP, they will test you and admit you." So how many people are like her who have it, are quarantined by Dr's orders, not tested and therefore not in the count? The count is massively understated. Hence we all should hang very low, minimize our exposure to others and let this thing pass.
It's not and here's why. My niece has all the symptoms. She face-timed with her doctor. Her doctor told her this: "You have it. Stay quarantined (with your husband and 2 kids), unless you get to the point where you have an exceedingly hard time breathing, then get to the ER ASAP, they will test you and admit you." So how many people are like her who have it, are quarantined by Dr's orders, not tested and therefore not in the count? The count is massively understated. Hence we all should hang very low, minimize our exposure to others and let this thing pass.
All true. My daughter said they are seeing ER patients who are obviously infected with the Trump Virus but they are sending them home unless very sick, with no testing done. There is a shift going on to the predicted assumption that there is no need to test widely as you probably have it anyways. Sure you’ll get tested, if you end up in the ICU.
To this point, really all one can do is treat the symptoms and hope it doesn’t turn into pneumonia. So underreported cases must be higher.
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All tongue in cheek but think about it for the chuckle.....
Present day life in the USA is a conservative’s worse nightmare. Hijabs being worn everywhere, not just by females. Big brother spying with cams everywhere? Nope, can’t see facial features anymore. Rob an open bank or business? Sure, that mask won’t raise any suspicion and you can even leave it on and walk down the street.
Crazy times.
All tongue in cheek but think about it for the chuckle.....
Present day life in the USA is a conservative’s worse nightmare. Hijabs being worn everywhere, not just by females. Big brother spying with cams everywhere? Nope, can’t see facial features anymore. Rob an open bank or business? Sure, that mask won’t raise any suspicion and you can even leave it on and walk down the street.
Crazy times.
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