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Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At It

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">People are like “how are these people refusing to wear masks in stores” but when I worked in retail people would regularly take a dump in the dressing rooms so what I’m saying is maybe lower your expectations for humanity</p>— Amber Sparks🪓 (@ambernoelle) <a href="https://twitter.com/ambernoelle/status/1262591759437254657?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">People are like “how are these people refusing to wear masks in stores” but when I worked in retail people would regularly take a dump in the dressing rooms so what I’m saying is maybe lower your expectations for humanity</p>— Amber Sparks�� (@ambernoelle) <a href="https://twitter.com/ambernoelle/status/1262591759437254657?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Please tell me where you worked so I never, ever go there.

Very few things shock me. I have seen multiple people p-ss in an elevator and not batted an eye. But this actually surprised me. Huh.

First thought: gotta be Kohls.
 
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Peeing in the elevator was a common occurrence at my university as well. It was either drunk guys thinking it was a fantastic prank, (jocks/frat) or incredibly drunk guys thinking they were in the restroom. (also jocks/frat)
 
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Peeing in the elevator was a common occurrence at my university as well. It was either drunk guys thinking it was a fantastic prank, (jocks/frat) or incredibly drunk guys thinking they were in the restroom. (also jocks/frat)

Every one of them is a Republican state legislator or federal judge now.
 
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I've seen more than a few orcs proclaim the total # of cases has flat-lined across the U.S. Without noting how testing maybe impact that, it doesn't account for the severe drops for NY and NJ which combined for nearly 33% of all cases. When you dig deeper:

Code:
	US	NY	NJ	NY&NJ	US-NY&NJ
26-Apr	26509	5678	3515	9193	17316
27-Apr	23196	4013	2150	6163	17033
28-Apr	25409	3446	2668	6114	19295
29-Apr	28429	4708	2408	7116	21313
30-Apr	30829	4681	2388	7069	23760
1-May	36007	4383	2538	6921	29086
2-May	29744	3991	2527	6518	23226
3-May	27348	4670	3721	8391	18957
4-May	24713	3491	1907	5398	19315
5-May	24798	2765	2360	5125	19673
6-May	25459	3352	1354	4706	20753
7-May	29531	3930	2047	5977	23554
8-May	29162	3284	2106	5390	23772
9-May	25524	2704	1367	4071	21453
10-May	20329	1997	1429	3426	16903
11-May	18196	1745	1129	2874	15322
12-May	22802	1504	942	2446	20356
13-May	21711	2193	782	2975	18736
14-May	27246	2248	1163	3411	23835
15-May	26692	2920	1466	4386	22306
AVERAGE	26182	3385	1998	5384	20798

Therefore outside NY/NJ every day but 3 in total have seen higher cases since April 26th. And although there may not have been a total "massive spike" net, it's obvious that several states are trending in the wrong direction.
 
Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At

Michael Osterholm from the University of Minnesota was on MSNBC today and basically told the public to stop kidding themselves about masks helping to protect them or others.
 
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Please tell me where you worked so I never, ever go there.

Very few things shock me. I have seen multiple people p-ss in an elevator and not batted an eye. But this actually surprised me. Huh.

First thought: gotta be Kohls.

It shall remain nameless to protect the innocent, but one library in NE Ohio had a serial pooper, who would crap in wastebaskets.
 
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Michael Osterholm from the University of Minnesota was on MSNBC today and basically told the public to stop kidding themselves about masks helping to protect them or others.

Which is exactly what we expected, given the MD recruitment strategies recently revealed. There will be more. At least it's a public debate involving experts.
 
Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At

Which is exactly what we expected, given the MD recruitment strategies recently revealed. There will be more. At least it's a public debate involving experts.

Wait, what?
 
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Michael Osterholm from the University of Minnesota was on MSNBC today and basically told the public to stop kidding themselves about masks helping to protect them or others.

Based on what science? I've seen other papers that do say they help- and even at 50% efficiency, that's better than 0, especially when you are just trying to keep the exposure low enough to prevent it from getting bad in your body.

Need real science to back up that opinion vs what is out there right now.

Otherwise why would doctors need masks if they don't help?
 
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Based on what science? I've seen other papers that do say they help- and even at 50% efficiency, that's better than 0, especially when you are just trying to keep the exposure low enough to prevent it from getting bad in your body.

Need real science to back up that opinion vs what is out there right now.

Otherwise why would doctors need masks if they don't help?

He didn't clarify in the clip that I saw, but I have to believe he is talking about the cheap paper masks everyone is wearing, or the homemade stuff. I have to believe that legit masks have some benefit, but you don't see a lot of people walking around with the top quality stuff.

Osterholm is a legit epidemiologist. He speaks candidly, and he is certainly no friend of Trump or the current administration. But he's been pretty up front from way back in February and March that there are really only two outcomes. We either get a vaccine or we develop herd immunity. He has also repeatedly said that we can have everyone stay at home for 18 months, but that is simply unrealistic in his opinion.
 
Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At

Michael Osterholm from the University of Minnesota was on MSNBC today and basically told the public to stop kidding themselves about masks helping to protect them or others.

Your post lacks context.

"If we don't lock things down until we have a vaccine and treat this as the threat it really is, the public needs to stop kidding themselves that masks will work long term."
is very different than
"Masks don't work!"
 
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Haven't seen the clip, but I wonder if he is talking about people taking the misguided interpretation that wearing a mask will prevent them from getting the virus vs. just reducing the chances and/or viral load?
 
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Your post lacks context.

"If we don't lock things down until we have a vaccine and treat this as the threat it really is, the public needs to stop kidding themselves that masks will work long term."
is very different than
"Masks don't work!"

Didn't he go on to talk about that all of the evidence of mask use in 1918 showed no signs of any help, and that the use during this pandemic in China has not shown to be effective?
 
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