Covfefe-19 - Part 4- Stay the **** Home

[alfablue]

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I think it lends more credence to the belief that not just more people have it than we think, but A LOT more. If this thing operates like it did in Asia, there's a large number of asymptomatic people carrying this thing around, and have been doing so for weeks.

Which is another reason one should track the death numbers- as they are more accurate to the percentage tested. Not perfect, for sure, but far better than the live testing for infections.

 

[rufus]

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12/6/1941
12/7/1941
12/8/1941

Did anyone in authority see it coming and do anything about it?

Heads rolled (Kimmel/Short), but the politicians, including Frank Knox, didn't. And, after some gloomy months, we started to win.

That was a war, you friggin' ******. This is complete dereliction of your responsibilities.


Is there anything too far that will make you stop sucking on Donnie's little mushroom dik?

 

[rufus]

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At the end of the day, the CDC epidemiologist post in China getting cut probably wouldn't have made a huge difference. The CCP controls what foreign officials see and have access to, and even if he had gotten word back to Washington, Dump has already proven he would not have listened anyway.

Add it to the list of all the other stupid sh*t he's done. *shrug*

Probably not. But just one more example of how unfit this guy is to be in office.

 

[rufus]

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It at least makes some sense. Closest to infected. It sucks, no doubt, but we're not left wondering why, you know?

If it continues at that rate across the country, who's left to treat the sick?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF. AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1241935285916782593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So the malaria drug Dump said would work on Corona is now not available for people who need it with Lupus. Good ****ing job.

 

[rufus]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ah, now I understand why Trump hasn't invoked the Defense Production Act (which would compel companies to make what's needed).<a href="https://t.co/XA7gynzbrN">https://t.co/XA7gynzbrN</a> <a href="https://t.co/K5FaClr7aj">pic.twitter.com/K5FaClr7aj</a></p>— Eric Umansky (@ericuman) <a href="https://twitter.com/ericuman/status/1241925491784912897?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'm sure there's probably limitations on profiteering if he invokes the act as well.

 

[BassAle]

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hopefully he is right:

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-22/coronavirus-outbreak-nobel-laureate

 

[rufus]

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https://www.eschatonblog.com/2020/03/apocalypse-now_23.html#disqus_thread

Combine young people who believe they are immortal, old people who are at best indifferent to taking the world with them as they go, people with genocidal fantasies, rich people who imagine they will survive more than 2 days in their bunkers without someone to cook for them, gun nuts who dream of being the local warlord, and people who think a good culling every now and then is just what "we" need...

Happy Monday!

 

[MissThundercat]

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Whitmer is expected to declare "shelter in place" today.

I work with autistic kids; not sure if my job would be considered "essential."

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Pretty interesting that Rand Paul is a doctor. Knew he might have been exposed. Had the test. And even after taking the test he just went around infecting others until he got the results.

 

[SJHovey]

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hopefully he is right:

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-22/coronavirus-outbreak-nobel-laureate

It'll be more interesting to see how quickly he is shouted down.

I was glad he included the flu numbers. No, this is not the flu. I get that.

On the other hand, the flu killed something like 650,000 people worldwide last year, a number that I think has been fairly consistent over the past few years. That is why when I click on a website like CNN and see something like 15,000 DEAD FROM COVID-19 WORLDWIDE, OMG WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!, my mind starts wondering what I can find on Youtube.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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It'll be more interesting to see how quickly he is shouted down.

I was glad he included the flu numbers. No, this is not the flu. I get that.

On the other hand, the flu killed something like 650,000 people worldwide last year, a number that I think has been fairly consistent over the past few years. That is why when I click on a website like CNN and see something like 15,000 DEAD FROM COVID-19 WORLDWIDE, OMG WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!, my mind starts wondering what I can find on Youtube.

I think your ignoring the obvious. If we allow this to spread like the flue does and we have no vaccine to stop it like the flu does than everyone gets it. And everyone who is compromised will need a ventilator and a hospital bed.

If that happens your flu death number will be trivial by comparison.

The only thing that is stopping this thing right now is social distancing. You really think people are making it up that that's what's needed?

 

[Kepler]

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It'll be more interesting to see how quickly he is shouted down.

I was glad he included the flu numbers. No, this is not the flu. I get that.

On the other hand, the flu killed something like 650,000 people worldwide last year, a number that I think has been fairly consistent over the past few years. That is why when I click on a website like CNN and see something like 15,000 DEAD FROM COVID-19 WORLDWIDE, OMG WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!, my mind starts wondering what I can find on Youtube.

The news shows now have the counts upticking in real time in a bug. That is pure fearmongering, not news. The profit motive sucks; we need to rethink it.

 

[BassAle]

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It'll be more interesting to see how quickly he is shouted down.

I was glad he included the flu numbers. No, this is not the flu. I get that.

On the other hand, the flu killed something like 650,000 people worldwide last year, a number that I think has been fairly consistent over the past few years. That is why when I click on a website like CNN and see something like 15,000 DEAD FROM COVID-19 WORLDWIDE, OMG WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!, my mind starts wondering what I can find on Youtube.

I think it seems a little overoptimistic -- it's already too late to "do as well as China" as the U.S. has at least twice as many cases per capita and no plans for a draconian Wuhan-style lockdown ('social distancing' probably won't be enough and we should be sheltering in place).

Italy also has like 10 times as many cases per capita as us, so hopefully we are acting soon enough to avoid that fate.

 

[Kepler]

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Combine young people who believe they are immortal, old people who are at best indifferent to taking the world with them as they go,

The rest of the quote is funny, but 538 has a breakdown of polling by age group re: the seriousness and personal risk of the disease. It contradicts the argument that any given age group is taking it less seriously. #generationsarentreal #onlycostumestheysellyou

 

[alfablue]

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It'll be more interesting to see how quickly he is shouted down.

I was glad he included the flu numbers. No, this is not the flu. I get that.

On the other hand, the flu killed something like 650,000 people worldwide last year, a number that I think has been fairly consistent over the past few years. That is why when I click on a website like CNN and see something like 15,000 DEAD FROM COVID-19 WORLDWIDE, OMG WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!, my mind starts wondering what I can find on Youtube.

What I'm reading he is saying is that the social distancing done correctly can be effective and get this over quickly.

Comparing the deaths isn't really important, it's controlling the overall outbreak- COVID19 very much seems that it spreads much faster, the odds of being hospitalized is higher, and the impact of the two of those can be very devastating (see Italy and Spain). If you control it effectively, you can be South Korea.

We have data examples to follow. Choose which path you want.

 

[rufus]

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It'll be more interesting to see how quickly he is shouted down.

I was glad he included the flu numbers. No, this is not the flu. I get that.

On the other hand, the flu killed something like 650,000 people worldwide last year, a number that I think has been fairly consistent over the past few years. That is why when I click on a website like CNN and see something like 15,000 DEAD FROM COVID-19 WORLDWIDE, OMG WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!, my mind starts wondering what I can find on Youtube.

That's for a full year. This hasn't even been four months. give it time.

let's see how smug and self-righteous you are then.

 

[Kepler]

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What I'm reading he is saying is that the social distancing done correctly (1) can be effective and (2) get this over quickly.

Yes on (1), no on (2). Italy is an example. They stopped people interacting and now the numbers are holding. However, the minute they let them out the numbers will spike again.

There is no "getting this over quickly." Until we have transmission to everyone, or a vaccine, or Jesus fixes it, we're going to have to stay apart. "It's not you; it's me."

 

[alfablue]

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The news shows now have the counts upticking in real time in a bug. That is pure fearmongering, not news. The profit motive sucks; we need to rethink it.

That's true, but it's also equally true for the news who downplay this. Right this second, doing too much to stop the spread is less harmful than doing too little. Maybe in a month, we can back off of that. But we are only in week 2 of significant social distancing instructions. It's going to take 4 to see real results of that. If China and S Korea are to be believed, 8 weeks for it to have a chance to end it.

This is going to take time.

 

[alfablue]

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Yes on (1), no on (2). Italy is an example. They stopped people interacting and now the numbers are holding. However, the minute they let them out the numbers will spike again.

There is no "getting this over quickly." Until we have transmission to everyone, or a vaccine, or Jesus fixes it, we're going to have to stay apart. "It's not you; it's me."

Quickly is relative. Based on the data that I can see, quick is ~8 weeks- China and S Korea. But we all have to be disciplined and keep up with that. I don't see that happening, but it's a path that we can take.