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Still trying to figure out how the Commish postponed s Big 10 without a vote. I see no schedules for many schools. I have no problem watching the pro games without fans so I'm sure college would be okay too.
 
Still trying to figure out how the Commish postponed s Big 10 without a vote. I see no schedules for many schools. I have no problem watching the pro games without fans so I'm sure college would be okay too.

I've seen articles that said the vote was 11-to-3, and I've seen articles that say 'there was no vote... but the outcome was 11-to-3'. Irrelevant semantic games. IMO.

Eg. - https://www.detroitnews.com/story/s...ich-conflicts-what-presidents-say/3451497001/
 
Still trying to figure out how the Commish postponed s Big 10 without a vote. I see no schedules for many schools. I have no problem watching the pro games without fans so I'm sure college would be okay too.

Yeah, and they pulled the plug SO early it was really dumb. At least they have the ability to change their minds. I think the c19 will run rampant on college campuses, that is the wild card. There's no way to bubble like the nba and nhl. They could have set up team specific dorms to keep them together and also limit their outside contacts.
 
At least they have the ability to change their minds.

I happened to see an interview with Barry Alvarez last night, and he addressed this very idea.

He told the interviewer that he was in a meeting recently with other Big Ten coaches and ADs. And what he told them was "It is Sunday, You lost your game on Saturday, It's over. There's no point in worrying about that game and that loss. Time to make a plan for the next game. Time to make a plan to move forward."
 
Sounds like we have common ground! It sounds like my grandmother's sage advice of don't cry over spilled milk with a modem twist.
 
There was a vote 11-3 against. Why it was hidden and denied is the question.

Yeah, and they pulled the plug SO early it was really dumb. At least they have the ability to change their minds. I think the c19 will run rampant on college campuses, that is the wild card. There's no way to bubble like the nba and nhl. They could have set up team specific dorms to keep them together and also limit their outside contacts.
 
"One-third of COVID-19 positive Big Ten athletes have myocarditis, Penn State athletic doctor says"


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/big-te...-myocarditis-penn-state-doctor-164111708.html

I was curious about myocarditis. As I read this article, it looks like several factors (meaning, before C-19) can cause this issue. I'm not trying to downplay this, as it can be very serious, I'm just wondering why is this coming about now? There are cases from Influenza, the common cold, bacteria (I'm sure many of you have seen the places these students live).

I would imagine any student-athlete that has been diagnosed with C-19 should have a cardiac checkup as well. They are recommending it in the office my wife works. Potentially (maybe) setting the stage for getting checked after having influenza, or any other seasonal cold. I saw a statistic from a UofM Medicine article that stated about 20 percent of sudden deaths in young adults are linked to myocarditis. Interesting for sure. Again, just wondering why it is being considered big news now.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/myocarditis/symptoms-causes/syc-20352539
 
I was curious about myocarditis.... I saw a statistic from a UofM Medicine article that stated about 20 percent of sudden deaths in young adults are linked to myocarditis. Interesting for sure. Again, just wondering why it is being considered big news now.

I have not been following the discussions here. We have a cottage off the grid that was hit by a bad storm three or four weeks ago, and I have been busy getting power restored and cleaning up down trees and broken branches. I feel like I have been living in a Hemingway novel: The Old Man and the Pole Saw. Most years, I would have spread the work over several seasons, but we have friends and relatives who want to use the cottage for self quarantine as they flee back to Minnesota to escape brutal heat in Arizona and California.

However, DDad asks a question that I actually can answer. I mentioned in a post about a month ago that my wife's cardiologist chatted extensively with her during an annual visit. The doctor works at U of Mn hospitals, and she may well have participated in the study DDad mentions. The doctor was mentioning her concern about the fact that C-19 (I like this abbreviation) was causing myocarditis in patients, and that it was causing it at a rate higher than the other diseases that cause myocarditis.

So now we have a population of previously healthy people who have preexisting conditions caused by C-19. When next these folks get C-19, which looks like it may be around Christmas, they will be at greater risk of dying. I wonder how the bulltweeters will spin those deaths, since the underlying conditions were caused by C-19.
 
I was curious about myocarditis. As I read this article, it looks like several factors (meaning, before C-19) can cause this issue. I'm not trying to downplay this, as it can be very serious, I'm just wondering why is this coming about now? There are cases from Influenza, the common cold, bacteria (I'm sure many of you have seen the places these students live).

I would imagine any student-athlete that has been diagnosed with C-19 should have a cardiac checkup as well. They are recommending it in the office my wife works. Potentially (maybe) setting the stage for getting checked after having influenza, or any other seasonal cold. I saw a statistic from a UofM Medicine article that stated about 20 percent of sudden deaths in young adults are linked to myocarditis. Interesting for sure. Again, just wondering why it is being considered big news now.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/myocarditis/symptoms-causes/syc-20352539

You should be curious about myocarditis since it has now become clear that the article posted earlier about one third of Covid1984 positive Big Ten athletes having myocarditis was just a tad inaccurate.
 
Covid stories......

A very upstanding fellow from church has close family friend to them where the mom has tested positive for covid, the case is mild. The husband has tested negative (so far), though they were not social distancing at all being a married couple right up to her positive test if you know what I mean. The kids both signed up online to get tested but did not make it to the test. They both got letters saying they tested positive. YEP. The source is very credible. Lots to digest on this one.

My father in law passed away 8 days ago. It was so sad not to give him a proper sendoff, he was a legend type of a guy in a small town. He deserved more than 40 people to pay their last respects. We had the wake/service outside, in the rain. What really sucked was his last 3 months in the old folks home he was shut off from us due to this stupid thing. We couldn't even call him on his phone and stand outside his window and chat. FINALLY they figured out how to regulate the visits/calls, but they were still limited. It had to be that way, but it doesn't mean we all had to like it. Not much to digest on this one.
 
Sorry to hear on your Father in Law. Liked the legend type of guy. Nice to hear you talk kindly about your wife's dad!

He and I had virtually nothing in common LOL. He had no interest in sports (not even football or baseball), fishing or muscle cars. I like Ford, he was a Chevy guy. He was a dem due to his work/union stuff, I'm typically not a union guy/republican. He lived at home until he was 93. My wife did his shopping and I took care of the homestead for him. His legend status was in regards to his involvement in the local fire dept. Him and his wife were/are fantastic people. Sadly his wife had an awful stroke 7 years ago and her brain is scrambled. She's been in a long term high care facility ever since. God works in mysterious ways.
 
Covid stories......

A very upstanding fellow from church has close family friend to them where the mom has tested positive for covid, the case is mild. The husband has tested negative (so far), though they were not social distancing at all being a married couple right up to her positive test if you know what I mean. The kids both signed up online to get tested but did not make it to the test. They both got letters saying they tested positive. YEP. The source is very credible. Lots to digest on this one.

My father in law passed away 8 days ago. It was so sad not to give him a proper sendoff, he was a legend type of a guy in a small town. He deserved more than 40 people to pay their last respects. We had the wake/service outside, in the rain. What really sucked was his last 3 months in the old folks home he was shut off from us due to this stupid thing. We couldn't even call him on his phone and stand outside his window and chat. FINALLY they figured out how to regulate the visits/calls, but they were still limited. It had to be that way, but it doesn't mean we all had to like it. Not much to digest on this one.

Also want to express my sympathy to you and your family. I have been to a couple of funerals in the last two weeks that were, like you say, around 40 people. Inside, sitting far apart and outside at the other. Just doesn't seem right for the kind of people both of them were.

Your story about the kids getting letters saying they tested positive without taking the test, reminds me of something I came across yesterday that said...15 out 10 people today tested positive for Covid19.
 
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Better late than never - not right on the vote previously. Something was fishy. Not sure what this does for Hockey, but the guy who posted earlier that basketball will take hockey for a ride may be correct.
 
Not sure what this does for Hockey,

Keep in mind that what it does for Big Ten men's hockey is not necessarily what it might do for WCHA women's hockey. The Big Ten can imposed testing requirements, etc, on Big Ten schools, but can't impose the same - costs, infrastructure, etc - on the likes of St Cloud or Mankato, etc etc.
 
Keep in mind that what it does for Big Ten men's hockey is not necessarily what it might do for WCHA women's hockey. The Big Ten can imposed testing requirements, etc, on Big Ten schools, but can't impose the same - costs, infrastructure, etc - on the likes of St Cloud or Mankato, etc etc.

You touch on a very big sticking point re the return of women's hockey. For the season to work, the NCAA, the conference and/or the colleges will very likely insist on (at least) weekly testing of all players and staff. And this will only work if they use rapid COVID tests which I've heard can run $100+ per test. I don't see where programs like Bemidji, Mankato and St Cloud get $3,000+ additional dollars a week ($6,000+ when you include Men's Hockey) right now to run such tests. The Big 10 hockey schools can likely absorb such a cost but no way these other schools can. The return of football is happening because the Big 10 is going to test every player every day and it's the Big 10 Conference that's covering those costs. That's much more easily done when you have a huge TV contract to draw money from.
 
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