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Coronavirus

DDad16 said:
"Allegedly" refers to the numerous deaths that were attributed to COVID but were realistically due to another cause. They happened to test positive for COVID when they died. Not saying a lot of people haven't died from symptoms of COVID. Just a lot were incorrectly attributed to COVID.

Having said all of that, because the smiley face emojis (or whatever they're called) aren't working, no one saw that I put a "Big Grin" emoji at the end of my statement. I was just making a joke, sort of, that the "real numbers" (if anyone knows what those are) could be disputed or skewed to however you want to present your case for whatever you believe. This is true for anything.
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But that is ENTIRELY missing, or ignoring, the point of the chart I directed you to!

The chart doesn't "attribute" the deaths to anything. It doesn't say anything about "symptoms" or causes of death. It simply says 'this is the number of people who died'.

It simply shows that since March, LOTS of people have died that were not normally be expected to have died.

SOMETHING has been happening since March to cause all those excess deaths. They aren't "alleged" deaths; they aren't mistakenly being "attributed" to being dead; they are unmistakably dead.

If you have an explanation for what that cause is, for what is killing them all, other than COVID, I'm all ears to hear what that is. But unless and until you can give me this unidentified and undiscussed cause, I'm going to go with what the doctors and other health officials are telling us.

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And if you want to indicate a 'joke", before emojis, there was :-)
 
robertearle said:
But that is ENTIRELY missing, or ignoring, the point of the chart I directed you to!

The chart doesn't "attribute" the deaths to anything. It doesn't say anything about "symptoms" or causes of death. It simply says 'this is the number of people who died'.

It simply shows that since March, LOTS of people have died that were not normally be expected to have died.

SOMETHING has been happening since March to cause all those excess deaths. They aren't "alleged" deaths; they aren't mistakenly being "attributed" to being dead; they are unmistakably dead.

If you have an explanation for what that cause is, for what is killing them all, other than COVID, I'm all ears to hear what that is. But unless and until you can give me this unidentified and undiscussed cause, I'm going to go with what the doctors and other health officials are telling us.

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And if you want to indicate a 'joke", before emojis, there was :-)
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My original "allegedly" statement, however, was directed toward the 160,000 deaths attributed to COVID.

Honestly, my original intent of my statement was to just bring a little levity to the conversation, being a Letterkenny fan. That was all. Not looking to start a debate on the numbers. :-)
 
DDad16 said:
My original "allegedly" statement, however, was directed toward the 160,000 deaths attributed to COVID.

Honestly, my original intent of my statement was to just bring a little levity to the conversation, being a Letterkenny fan. That was all. Not looking to start a debate on the numbers. :-)
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And, though I have not actually done so, if you go to that chart and add up the weekly numbers of 'excess deaths' since March, I'm willing to bet that you get something in the neighborhood of 160,000.

If you don't want to "start a debate on the numbers" then don't make posts that throw shade on those numbers, big shoots.
 
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DDad16 said:
My original "allegedly" statement, however, was directed toward the 160,000 deaths attributed to COVID.
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The allegedly comment was going to produce a defensive response, which like clockwork, it did. How dare you question a Coronabro's statistics?

DDad16 said:
Honestly, my original intent of my statement was to just bring a little levity to the conversation, being a Letterkenny fan. That was all. Not looking to start a debate on the numbers. :-)
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See there you go...Much like Reddington, you were wasting your time.
 
Cornholio said:
Why the sudden shift to cancel football? Easy - liability reasons, in the B1G especially. There is a very public case of an IU player who had covid who now apparently has heart problems. While the NCAA model works very well for the vast majority of student-athletes (and all women players), it apparently is 'unfair' to a handful of football players in P5 programs and if the season continued and more start to have long term health issues after contracting covid, it would be easy pick'ins for any decent lawyer to say the schools put profits over the health of the players. Ripple effect of this will be severe I am afraid for the non-revenue sports and I am hoping there will be a women's hockey season next winter (this year is lost).
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"Corn"....As stated by another poster, it's all about liability. AND, the fact that at least 10 Big10 athletes who came down with Covid, have now been diagnosed with myocarditis, an extremely serious condition of an inflammation of the heart muscle that can lead to strokes and death. Almost all of the Big schools have extremely well respected research hospitals attached to them and, the Big10's health advisory group has some of the absolute best minds regarding Covid in the world. And, those experts have made a recommendation to halt fall sports. This is absolutely and purely, a science based decision. What's really interesting is that you have Nebraska's head football coach threatening to play outside of the Big10 and yet, the Big10's health and safety advisory group is lead by a scientist/doctor from that university's research hospital.
 
FiveHoleFrenzy said:
The allegedly comment was going to produce a defensive response, which like clockwork, it did. How dare you question a Coronabro's statistics?



See there you go...Much like Reddington, you were wasting your time.
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FiveHole.....I'll make you a deal, I'll link to at least 5 articles from extremely respected science journals and/or individual scientist/researchers who explain exactly why that, not only is the 160,000 plus deaths accurate but, there's extremely valid evidence and information that actually points to it being significantly under-counted. And, you provide links to at least 5 articles that are written by actual scientists and researchers that are truly respected as experts in a field that directly correlates to Covid 19.
 
net presence said:
"Corn"....As stated by another poster, it's all about liability. AND, the fact that at least 10 Big10 athletes who came down with Covid, have now been diagnosed with myocarditis, an extremely serious condition of an inflammation of the heart muscle that can lead to strokes and death. Almost all of the Big schools have extremely well respected research hospitals attached to them and, the Big10's health advisory group has some of the absolute best minds regarding Covid in the world. And, those experts have made a recommendation to halt fall sports. This is absolutely and purely, a science based decision. What's really interesting is that you have Nebraska's head football coach threatening to play outside of the Big10 and yet, the Big10's health and safety advisory group is lead by a scientist/doctor from that university's research hospital.
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In a nice bit of "right place, right time" coincidence, the current presidents of Michigan and Michigan State are both medical doctors with specialties in immuninology.
 
net presence said:
FiveHole.....I'll make you a deal, I'll link to at least 5 articles from extremely respected science journals and/or individual scientist/researchers who explain exactly why that, not only is the 160,000 plus deaths accurate but, there's extremely valid evidence and information that actually points to it being significantly under-counted. And, you provide links to at least 5 articles that are written by actual scientists and researchers that are truly respected as experts in a field that directly correlates to Covid 19.
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You, as well, are not interested in a deal.

Hey nice job though, on going "really" hard sell on the bit with stuff like extremely respected, extremely valid, and truly respected.
 
FiveHoleFrenzy said:
Again with the disingenuous I'm all ears.

I try a question just to see how much you'll listen

Is there a financial incentive for entities like hospitals to report CCP virus deaths?
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No idea,

Do you, or do you not, have an alternative explanation for the number of 'excess deaths' the US has been seeing since March?
 
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