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Cops: No Snarky Nor Positive Title

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SJHovey said:
I don't recall a lot of mea culpas around here regarding the St. Paul cop thing, but honestly, I'm too lazy to go back and look. That said, if everyone knew two months ago it wasn't a cop, I'm a little surprised that it took you guys this long to identify him as a white supremacist, since white guys committing crimes are either cops or white supremacists, according to most.

But I am glad you brought up cops and the performance of their jobs. How are we coming on those big changes to the Minneapolis police department? I see the Charter Commission is about to kick you guys to the curb. So what will the final victory tally be? A "substantial" $1.5 million cut to a $165 million police budget, a policy banning choke holds, and maybe a citizens committee or two?
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Mea culpas for what? I don't recall that many people claiming umbrella man was a cop outside of what was previously speculated and did 1 single poster use it to otherwise disparage cops on the whole? As far as him being a white supremacist doesn't he have verified links to such activities? If so why is pointing that out so troublesome to you?

Your 2nd paragraph reads like grade school taunting and hoping things go awry in the city. Great thought process there Hovey - wishful thinking rather than logic guiding you principally and wanting things to go bad rather than ever seeing 'opposition' policy making lead to a greater good. Disgusting.
 
Kepler said:
OR Gov announces Pence has agreed to pull ICE Nazis out of Portland; ICE responds 30 minutes later they will remain.

Rule of law, baby.
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Funny you put it that way:

https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1288611555530113024

"ICE agents complain about Nazi comparisons, say they're only enforcing the laws"

new Netflix docuseries that saw filmmakers gain "unprecedented" access to the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency's operations under the Trump administration sees ICE agents open up about what it's like to be seen as "the bad guys."

For roughly three years, starting just after President Donald Trump took office, filmmakers Shaul Schwarz and Christina Clusiau were given a stunning level of access to the U.S. Homeland Security department's immigration agencies, including ICE and the Border Patrol.

Schwarz and Clusiau followed federal officers and agents as they enforced some of the Trump administration's most controversial immigration policies, including the government's "zero tolerance" family separation policy at the border and ICE's crackdown on undocumented immigrants across the country, with their work culminating in the new docuseries Immigration Nation, which saw its trailer premiered exclusively on Newsweek.com and which is set to launch on Netflix on August 3.
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Some quotes in case you dont want to click on the adstorm that is newsweek:

"It's like... too much," one agent in New York told filmmakers, describing how ICE agents had gone from arresting less than eight people in a week under the Obama administration to making more than eight arrests in a single day under Trump.

"It's like the floodgates opened and no one's used to this," the agent said.

"It's not like, 'okay, we went back to the way we were. We were never like this," they said. "It's a different world."
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"We constantly look like we're the bad guys, when all we're doing is enforcing the laws and doing our job," the agent says.

"It gets to me sometimes, it does," she says. "Cause, I just feel like, you know, we have no respect."

"Now, the administration has changed and we're finally able to do our job," the agent says. "To be honest with you, I honestly still cannot believe that he's our president. It's the best thing and the worst thing that could have happened to us."
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And my personal fave:

Hitting out at criticisms that have, for years, compared ICE agents to Nazis, the agent said: "To be called a Nazi, you know, a racist, you know, it's just ignorant. It's ignorant."

"We don't pick and choose groups of people based on race, color, religion. We just look for people who are removable," he says.
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They also discuss how they arrest "collaterals" and what that means and how some of the agents are against it even when ordered to bring in lots of them.
 
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Slap Shot said:
Your 2nd paragraph reads like grade school taunting and hoping things go awry in the city. Great thought process there Hovey - wishful thinking rather than logic guiding you principally and wanting things to go bad rather than ever seeing 'opposition' policy making lead to a greater good. Disgusting.
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Nope, not at all. Just calling out the bs hypocrisy that is the guiding principal of today's democratic party.

Listen, I knew you guys were joshin' when you said you were going to defund the police. But I just wanted to point it out to everyone else early, and continuously.

I knew that you'd be down there holding their hands, telling them everything they wanted to hear, pretending to really care, before returning to your corporate jobs, your downtown lofts or suburban homes. It makes you sleep better at night and gives you something to talk proudly about to your friends.

You'd do the poor and people of color so much more good if you were just honest with them. Tell them straight up you can't get rid of the police force, but maybe there are some things you can do, then go and do those things.
 
Slap Shot said:
Mea culpas for what? I don't recall that many people claiming umbrella man was a cop outside of what was previously speculated and did 1 single poster use it to otherwise disparage cops on the whole? As far as him being a white supremacist doesn't he have verified links to such activities? If so why is pointing that out so troublesome to you?

Your 2nd paragraph reads like grade school taunting and hoping things go awry in the city. Great thought process there Hovey - wishful thinking rather than logic guiding you principally and wanting things to go bad rather than ever seeing 'opposition' policy making lead to a greater good. Disgusting.
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Some people just want our country to fail.
 
SJHovey said:
Nope, not at all. Just calling out the bs hypocrisy that is the guiding principal of today's democratic party.

Listen, I knew you guys were joshin' when you said you were going to defund the police. But I just wanted to point it out to everyone else early, and continuously.

I knew that you'd be down there holding their hands, telling them everything they wanted to hear, pretending to really care, before returning to your corporate jobs, your downtown lofts or suburban homes. It makes you sleep better at night and gives you something to talk proudly about to your friends.
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Yeah I made the mistake of engaging on this topic. The guy doesnt realize his "clever" retorts that probably go over like gangbusters other places just dont land with others. I will mea culpa I pulled a Kepler ;-)

Some people you just cant discuss certain topics with.
 
SJHovey said:
Nope, not at all. Just calling out the bs hypocrisy that is the guiding principal of today's democratic party.

Listen, I knew you guys were joshin' when you said you were going to defund the police. But I just wanted to point it out to everyone else early, and continuously.

I knew that you'd be down there holding their hands, telling them everything they wanted to hear, pretending to really care, before returning to your corporate jobs, your downtown lofts or suburban homes. It makes you sleep better at night and gives you something to talk proudly about to your friends.

You'd do the poor and people of color so much more good if you were just honest with them. Tell them straight up you can't get rid of the police force, but maybe there are some things you can do, then go and do those things.
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When you keep responding with, "you" in such a way that it illegitimately encompasses a great number of people in response to something I've posted you've lost your audience. Anyway mea culpas are not required for what you called out and you again resorted to nonsensical stereotypical rants that mean nothing. Disgusting.
 
Hovey, I'm sure you're already aware (or maybe not, since you seem to have a complete lack of self-awareness), but you seem like a giant piece of shit
 
Rube started this thread and used to post frequently on similar topics, but I don't see him much anymore. Did I miss something (again)?
 
dxmnkd316 said:
He'll be back. Can't make 120,000 posts and walk away. I couldn't even with a quarter of that.
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I think he sometimes posts in the rep threads...but he only posted in the "can we go back to the old format" thread to say he cant stand this and he is out for a while. I wont lie I am about done with it too. It is blatantly obvious the people running this board dont give a crap anymore and I am sick of how every few days something gets screwed up on a board that is already borked anyways. GPL is run on better software for chrissakes. (I havent been back there since Day 2 of the riots)

It was cute though when board posted twice to try and make us think they were still around and were moderating...
 
BassAle said:
Hovey, I'm sure you're already aware (or maybe not, since you seem to have a complete lack of self-awareness), but you seem like a giant piece of ****
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Because I don’t follow the accepted creed around here? Because I said mean things about Democrats?

I’d say that posters have directed at me maybe a dozen personal attacks or insults similar to yours over the last six months alone. I call Democrat’s hypocrites and now I’m a “giant POS?”

Interesting.
 
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