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Cops 6: The More You Pay, The Faster We'll Come!

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Handyman said:
18th proves the point that it isnt as dangerous a job as you think.
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I have only said that *my* job is safer than being an officer. I never claimed it was the most dangerous.

And ND: I've been in my industry for 25+ years. I also know what I'm talking about. :p
 
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Often, police officers killed in the line of duty died because they did not follow safe practices. You'd be surprised how often that happens.

Many die in vehicle accidents simply because they were not wearing seatbelts. In 2013 14 police officers who died in traffic accidents weren't wearing seatbelts.

In 2003 two Mishawaka Indiana cops were killed responding to reports of an armed robbery. The suspect was clearly identified and had ripped off a necklace from the neck of a victim. Then he pulled out a handgun and fired off a few rounds into the air. Within minutes the two officers traced him to a home not far from the site of the robbery. They simply walked up to the house and were shot on the porch. One was a 14 year veteran and the other had over 2 years so was hardly a "rookie." They KNEW the suspect had committed a violent crime, they knew he was armed and fired off rounds. Yet they walked up on the porch putting themselves in an extremely vulnerable position. Why? Had they followed established protocol and taken even the simplest precautions they would not have been shot like they were. They knew the guy was in there and he was armed. They could have waited him out. They could have waited for more officers to arrive. The 14 year veteran bumbled his way into getting himself and the other officer killed.

In 2001 an Elkhart Indiana police officer was killed in a traffic accident when his cruiser collided with another officer's. He wasn't wearing his seatbelt and was knocked out of his car. Wear your seatbelt for God's sake.

Dangerous job? Maybe. Probably. Why make it more dangerous by making stupid, preventable mistakes?
 
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The Rube said:
I have only said that *my* job is safer than being an officer. I never claimed it was the most dangerous.

And ND: I've been in my industry for 25+ years. I also know what I'm talking about. :p
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If you've been in your industry for 25+ years and for 18 years at your current employer, based on an earlier post of yours you are underpaid. Get a union, get a better union, or tell your union to hire me. :) In my current assignment I have secured better contracts than what was replaced in every instance, and in all I have negotiated better raises than the weighted average of our entire 3 state union.
 
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I am not union. I do get great health insurance, a very solid retirement plan, and right now pulling in 6+ weeks vacation per year. Sometimes it's not just about the base pay. ;)
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
Often, police officers killed in the line of duty died because they did not follow safe practices. You'd be surprised how often that happens.
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Like speeding when they're not trying to pull someone over or going to the scene of an emergency? Happens all the time.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Like speeding when they're not trying to pull someone over or going to the scene of an emergency? Happens all the time.
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I've seen more than a few highway patrolmen go under the speed limit by 5+ mph on the interstate, trolling people. Many think it's illegal to pass an officer. Wrong. I laugh as I pass the trooper at the speed limit, knowing what he's doing. :D
 
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The Rube said:
I've seen more than a few highway patrolmen go under the speed limit by 5+ mph on the interstate, trolling people. Many think it's illegal to pass an officer. Wrong. I laugh as I pass the trooper at the speed limit, knowing what he's doing. :D
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Oh yes, I've seen that too.
 
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The Rube said:
I've seen more than a few highway patrolmen go under the speed limit by 5+ mph on the interstate, trolling people. Many think it's illegal to pass an officer. Wrong. I laugh as I pass the trooper at the speed limit, knowing what he's doing. :D
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I travel between Columbus and Cleveland on I-71 for work fairly regularly. There's an Ohio revenue man (Ohio Highway patrol troopers HATE being called that) who regularly cruises north at about 68 MPH (limit is 70 MPH), and always in the far left lane. The first time I witnessed this the backup had to be a mile long at least and it took 25 minutes to find enough open spaces in the traffic to weave to the front and see what the hold up was. This is a three lane highway and that is such a dick move by a dick cop. I've encountered him 5 or 6 times since and usually when I get to him and go by, I flip him off. I hope someday he's dumb enough to pull me over for doing that, I really do, but sadly I am a middle aged middle class white male.
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
I travel between Columbus and Cleveland on I-71 for work fairly regularly. There's an Ohio revenue man (Ohio Highway patrol troopers HATE being called that) who regularly cruises north at about 68 MPH (limit is 70 MPH), and always in the far left lane. The first time I witnessed this the backup had to be a mile long at least and it took 25 minutes to find enough open spaces in the traffic to weave to the front and see what the hold up was. This is a three lane highway and that is such a dick move by a dick cop. I've encountered him 5 or 6 times since and usually when I get to him and go by, I flip him off. I hope someday he's dumb enough to pull me over for doing that, I really do, but sadly I am a middle aged middle class white male.
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Why flip him off? It's the idiots behind him that won't pass. ;)
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Like speeding when they're not trying to pull someone over or going to the scene of an emergency? Happens all the time.
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I watched a Minneapolis cop pull out of the downtown cop shop, make a right turn to go the wrong way on a one-way street (4th Ave S), flip on his lights, turn left to travel down a lane of road that's restricted to mass transit (4th St S), and then turn off his lights to go along his merry way. And he did it like it was his routine, not something extraordinary.
 
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The Rube said:
Why flip him off? It's the idiots behind him that won't pass. ;)
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Because the idiots behind him are scared or confused, don't know the law, and aren't being dicks. The revenue man is being a dick. I flip him off because running him off the road and into a ditch would be frowned upon, even though he's an overpaid meter maid who would deserve it.
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
Because the idiots behind him are scared or confused, don't know the law, and aren't being dicks. The revenue man is being a dick. I flip him off because running him off the road and into a ditch would be frowned upon, even though he's an overpaid meter maid who would deserve it.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This, folks, is what I'm talking about. The bad attitude towards cops. Don't blame people who don't know the laws, just blame the cops. It's easier that way.

Edit: ignorance of the law does not excuse the breaking of it.
 
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I am never gonna pass a cop. My initial assessment of a cop is he's a power tripping Dumpy who couldn't cut it as a gym coach. Now, sure, I could be wrong, but why take the chance?

Profiling. It's your friend.
 
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The Rube said:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This, folks, is what I'm talking about. The bad attitude towards cops. Don't blame people who don't know the laws, just blame the cops. It's easier that way.

Edit: ignorance of the law does not excuse the breaking of it.
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Not passing someone on the right is breaking the law?
 
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unofan said:
Not passing someone on the right is breaking the law?
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Can you comprehend words?

Please re-read the convo.

I've passed a cop many a time, doing on-the-nuts-speed limit. If they want to pull you over, you have the facts on your side. Gimme the radar, gimme the report, etc etc etc. Simple as that.
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
I travel between Columbus and Cleveland on I-71 for work fairly regularly. There's an Ohio revenue man (Ohio Highway patrol troopers HATE being called that) who regularly cruises north at about 68 MPH (limit is 70 MPH), and always in the far left lane. The first time I witnessed this the backup had to be a mile long at least and it took 25 minutes to find enough open spaces in the traffic to weave to the front and see what the hold up was. This is a three lane highway and that is such a dick move by a dick cop. I've encountered him 5 or 6 times since and usually when I get to him and go by, I flip him off. I hope someday he's dumb enough to pull me over for doing that, I really do, but sadly I am a middle aged middle class white male.
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Jeezuz you really have an unhealthy obsession with cops. Like bizarrely unhealthy. I don't need an explanation from you just get over it.
 
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St. Clown said:
I watched a Minneapolis cop pull out of the downtown cop shop, make a right turn to go the wrong way on a one-way street (4th Ave S), flip on his lights, turn left to travel down a lane of road that's restricted to mass transit (4th St S), and then turn off his lights to go along his merry way. And he did it like it was his routine, not something extraordinary.
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I'd be curious to know if cops are documented for using their lights. I know ambulance and fire equipment has GPS tracking whenever the lights are used. From friends on the fire side of things, my understanding is that it's used for training and to see what routes can be problematic with traffic. They also have to document any routes used in a separate log book, and honest mistake discrepancies are a huge PITA for them since there are significant legal consequences that come about from the differences in logs.
 
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