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Cops 2: Pay No Attention to the Rioters Behind the Curtain

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St. Clown said:
Many municipalities have insurance policies to cover civil suit payments. Most large cities do (won't claim all), but I don't know at what rate those figures decline when moving to smaller and smaller areas.
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I would think it's the exact opposite. I'd think most major cities self-insure while the smaller ones carry insurance.
 
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Why do I get the distinct feeling that "Ademo Freeman" doesn't have a jerb? ;)
 
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GrinCDXX said:
He nails it in the first paragraph with the take down of the "few bad apples" theory. Reality is that there are a few bad apples and countless bushels of apples that will readily go bad if put next to an already bad apple.
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The broken window theory works both ways. That's yet another reason to come down really hard on cops who think their badge gives them superpowers. The more they go unpunished, the more they corrupt by example.
 
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GrinCDXX said:
He nails it in the first paragraph with the take down of the "few bad apples" theory. Reality is that there are a few bad apples and countless bushels of apples that will readily go bad if put next to an already bad apple.
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There's a few things that are being missed:

Bad apples trump good apples. If a good apple calls out a bad apple, the good apple is eviscerated, thereby lowering the percentage of good apples even further.

Cameras only provide an objective record if it is both in operation and brought to light. Sure, cops now have to have body cams, but I guarantee that that evidence will only be brought to court if it is able to prosecute someone not of the "brotherhood". Even if it were to be required to be brought by means of subpoena, there are plenty of "tricks" that the "brotherhood" can use to make sure it doesn't get there, and an insider judge can ensure no contempt charge stands. Not to mention, as we saw in the Crawford case, video doesn't lead to conviction.
 
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Kepler said:
The broken window theory works both ways. That's yet another reason to come down really hard on cops who think their badge gives them superpowers. The more they go unpunished, the more they corrupt by example.
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Exactly! They should be held to a higher standard BECAUSE they are cops.
 
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Kepler said:
Sigh.
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In a phone interview with Commander Chuck Mulligan of the St. Johns County Sheriff's Office, The Daily Beast asked if it was standard procedure to bring assault rifles, but not mental health professionals, to a scene where someone is suicidal.

'If the deputies feel that that is the appropriate weapon system to use, then yes,' said Mulligan.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tell-leave-room-shoot-dead.html#ixzz3bYBrwYvA
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Double Sigh.
 
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A Judge didnt convict cops who shot unarmed people in a car dozens of times, no way these cops are punished.

It is becoming apparent that just like with voting, the problem isnt the cops it is the people that keep letting them get away with this crap.
 
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Handyman said:
A Judge didnt convict cops who shot unarmed people in a car dozens of times, no way these cops are punished.

It is becoming apparent that just like with voting, the problem isnt the cops it is the people that keep letting them get away with this crap.
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It's not necessarily the judge. Jury nullification has been championed by those looking to legalize recreational drugs as a way of not convicting for violating bad laws, especially non-violent ones. The thing about jury nullification is that it works both ways. During jury selection, the prosecution doesn't ask about partial views on cops (probably because of a government organizational kickback), allows twelve people on the jury that believe cops can do no wrong, and bingo, jury nullification.

Do we need to keep jury nullification? Absolutely; it was put there as a protection against an oppressive judicial system. Does the District Attorney need to be held accountable for the jurors that are selected in order to make sure the trial is completely impartial? Yes.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Do we need to keep jury nullification? Absolutely; it was put there as a protection against an oppressive judicial system. Does the District Attorney need to be held accountable for the jurors that are selected in order to make sure the trial is completely impartial? Yes.
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The only widespread use of jury nullification that I'm aware of was southern racists using it to let lynchers walk. I think it's another one of those things like "States' Rights" -- sounds great on paper, in practice it's just another excuse for SSDD.
 
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