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College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons

Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons

Wow...throws a guy through a glass door and repeatedly punches him the the face even when the cops arrive and somehow pleads down to disorderly conduct? Jabaal Sheard got the sweetest of sweatheart deals :eek:
 
Hell, I'm just surprised that most of these schools don't at least take a look at what's in their legal pasts. The BCS schools require kids with a lot of talent to make them money with athletic excellence on the field, and not embarrass the school much.
 
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bigmrg74 said:
Hell, I'm just surprised that most of these schools don't at least take a look at what's in their legal pasts. The BCS schools require kids with a lot of talent to make them money with athletic excellence on the field, and not embarrass the school much.
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It kind of sounds like they want the player and "cover up" any transgressions. Mainly by helping change the charge (from a felony to something less- so they can accept the scholarship), or "the coach didn't tell me that", or "we are giving him a second chance. Once at school, the borderline ones get in order pretty quickly. It's the ones they can't continue to control which are the problem, and cause MORE issues with the school.

Also, if a kid can make the ESPN enough money, it's pretty clear that they customize their coverage. See Cam Newton. Or OSU. (funny side story unlreated to CFB, but TO ESPN- the Pistons have recently had a row with each other, and the local news made a big deal about the patch up, saying it was so nice to see, but ESPN flat out called it denial. No idea which is right, but the glaring difference in coverage was interesting)
 
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alfablue said:
It kind of sounds like they want the player and "cover up" any transgressions. Mainly by helping change the charge (from a felony to something less- so they can accept the scholarship), or "the coach didn't tell me that", or "we are giving him a second chance. Once at school, the borderline ones get in order pretty quickly. It's the ones they can't continue to control which are the problem, and cause MORE issues with the school.

Also, if a kid can make the ESPN enough money, it's pretty clear that they customize their coverage. See Cam Newton. Or OSU. (funny side story unlreated to CFB, but TO ESPN- the Pistons have recently had a row with each other, and the local news made a big deal about the patch up, saying it was so nice to see, but ESPN flat out called it denial. No idea which is right, but the glaring difference in coverage was interesting)
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Background checks are pretty simple to do nowadays, I would think it would be just their due dillagence for at least somebody on the staff there at Big Time State to do a check to see if the kid got busted for Jaywalking. At least that way you'll sound better when you say that you're giving the kid a second chance, and put the pressure on the kid to straighten up and fly right or else he's going to find that he's not going to get his scholorship renewed and the only place willing to take you is some D2 school in West Virginia or North Alabama. ;)
 
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bigmrg74 said:
Background checks are pretty simple to do nowadays, I would think it would be just their due dillagence for at least somebody on the staff there at Big Time State to do a check to see if the kid got busted for Jaywalking. At least that way you'll sound better when you say that you're giving the kid a second chance, and put the pressure on the kid to straighten up and fly right or else he's going to find that he's not going to get his scholorship renewed and the only place willing to take you is some D2 school in West Virginia or North Alabama. ;)
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Sure seems like it- but the article implies that few are actually doing that. Particularly for the kids from Florida, who have very open rules to get the information. Not sure if it's out of laziness or just denial. They showed that some of the Florida kids were busted for breaking and entering an occupied home and armed robbery (basically). One of the charges were reduced to not be a felony, once the kid was going to go to Wisconsin....

This kind of re-enforces an old theory of mine- there are multiple levels of justice in this country- one with a lot of money and/or potential, and one with nothing. I'm sure there is some between. But had a normal person got busted for stealing drugs and money at gun point, odds are they would be in jail and not playing D1 football.
 
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alfablue said:
Sure seems like it- but the article implies that few are actually doing that. Particularly for the kids from Florida, who have very open rules to get the information. Not sure if it's out of laziness or just denial. They showed that some of the Florida kids were busted for breaking and entering an occupied home and armed robbery (basically). One of the charges were reduced to not be a felony, once the kid was going to go to Wisconsin....

This kind of re-enforces an old theory of mine- there are multiple levels of justice in this country- one with a lot of money and/or potential, and one with nothing. I'm sure there is some between. But had a normal person got busted for stealing drugs and money at gun point, odds are they would be in jail and not playing D1 football.
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True, but having that info up front now in this day in age would make things look better to the bigger boosters. They got money from their buisnesses and I would bet that most of them don't hire people without taking a look at their backgrounds.
 
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Cowherd's a jack*****, and the only reason I'd give any credence to him talking about Oregon is because he's from the Pacific Northwest. In the meantime, I'd like him to explain how the acronym "S. T. A. B." was a clear giveaway that Will Muschamp was going to be the next coach at the University of Florida.
 
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bronconick said:
Cowherd's a jack*****, and the only reason I'd give any credence to him talking about Oregon is because he's from the Pacific Northwest. In the meantime, I'd like him to explain how the acronym "S. T. A. B." was a clear giveaway that Will Muschamp was going to be the next coach at the University of Florida.
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Did Cowherd even mention Oregon?
 
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No he hinted at them and some people did further research talking to papers in Oregon.
 
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Most likely that is the start...now all of the little things that Oregon has been doing will trickle out and even though plaenty of other schools do way worse, Oregon will end up taking it on the chin.

The NCAA will martyr Oregon to save the SEC...
 
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Pretty good post pointing out some problems with the SI/CBS "study" including this money paragraph:
[Talking about how 7% of student athletes are arrested or charged] Of those seven percent, "nearly 60 percent…were guilty or paid some penalty". If we assume "nearly 60 percent" means 57% (shockingly, the actual numbers and survey methods aren’t given), then 4% of players on top 25 football teams have been actually convicted of, or plead guilty to, a crime.

The number of average college students with the same criminal record? According to this article from Corvallis, Oregon’s Daily Barometer, 3.45%. That’s right: Your typical college football player is one-half of one percent more likely to have a criminal conviction. To put that in perspective, a team of 85 players has half a person more convicted criminals on it than a sample of 85 students drawn randomly. Hide yo kids, hide yo wife.
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WeWantMore said:
Pretty good post pointing out some problems with the SI/CBS "study" including this money paragraph:
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It would be more interesting to contrast the study with students who are on full ride scholarships from the University, and are attending school via "some" merit. Especially if they are representing and making money for the school.

that would be more relevant than comparing to the general student body.
 
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Priceless said:
That's the big scandal?
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It's just what's out in the open, though... the $25k they paid Lyles is a factor of three higher than the going rate for scouting services, so there's definitely something fishy there. The other guy, although the stories don't seem to be meshing, the money is at least about normal for the service he supposedly provided.
 
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