USCHO Fan Forum
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
-
The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.
College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
- Thread starter pgb-ohio
- Start date
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
PSU and OSU can fist themselves. They're both rolling around in piles of money.
PSU and OSU can fist themselves. They're both rolling around in piles of money.
Hammer
We'll be back.
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
They're also 2 of the big 5 in that conference (excluding Nebraska) that print the money in that conference. It's in the best interests of the conference's checkbooks to listen carefully to what they have to say.
They're also 2 of the big 5 in that conference (excluding Nebraska) that print the money in that conference. It's in the best interests of the conference's checkbooks to listen carefully to what they have to say.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
What are they going to do? Give the Big Ten an ultimatum? HA! The Big Ten is THE premier conference in the nation. The line behind the velvet ropes outside the Big Ten is a mile long.
What are they going to do? Give the Big Ten an ultimatum? HA! The Big Ten is THE premier conference in the nation. The line behind the velvet ropes outside the Big Ten is a mile long.
Hammer
We'll be back.
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
You want them to take that money elsewhere, likely to the Big East? I don't think that's likely either, but let's not be reckless here. There's a good reason the Big Ten looked to eastern schools when they added Nebraska.
Again. You need to realize that there's a 105,000+ seat stadium there that produces ~$5 million per home game. Those kinds of money makers don't grow on trees. I would guess Penn State brings more revenue to the B1G than Minnesota, Northwestern, Indiana, probably combined.
You want them to take that money elsewhere, likely to the Big East? I don't think that's likely either, but let's not be reckless here. There's a good reason the Big Ten looked to eastern schools when they added Nebraska.
Again. You need to realize that there's a 105,000+ seat stadium there that produces ~$5 million per home game. Those kinds of money makers don't grow on trees. I would guess Penn State brings more revenue to the B1G than Minnesota, Northwestern, Indiana, probably combined.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
Penn State has zero leverage in forcing the Big Ten to take a eastern school.
"If you don't take in Rutgers, we'll go join the Big East and take a 50% paycut per season and get excited about trying to fill our 105,000 seat stadium against teams such as South Florida, Connecticut and well, Rutgers."
Big Ten announces it has one opening. Fifteen schools call, though probably not Notre Dame.
Penn State has zero leverage in forcing the Big Ten to take a eastern school.
"If you don't take in Rutgers, we'll go join the Big East and take a 50% paycut per season and get excited about trying to fill our 105,000 seat stadium against teams such as South Florida, Connecticut and well, Rutgers."
Big Ten announces it has one opening. Fifteen schools call, though probably not Notre Dame.
Hammer
We'll be back.
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
Not necessarily. Penn State can easily fill Happy Valley in the Big East and draw a nice chunk of change, especially with that BCS berth sitting there, for all intents and purposes theirs for the taking more often than not. They made a nice living doing something quite similar before 1993.
Penn State is not the only school that would raise a stink, and I doubt it would be just them and Ohio State, either. The B1G is not about to start jerking their members around. There's two other very profitable athletic departments with stadium capacities over 100,000 that are going to have quite a bit to say about expansion, too. And Michigan State and Wisconsin are going to have a say in this, too. I have the feeling that this isn't done yet.
Not necessarily. Penn State can easily fill Happy Valley in the Big East and draw a nice chunk of change, especially with that BCS berth sitting there, for all intents and purposes theirs for the taking more often than not. They made a nice living doing something quite similar before 1993.
Penn State is not the only school that would raise a stink, and I doubt it would be just them and Ohio State, either. The B1G is not about to start jerking their members around. There's two other very profitable athletic departments with stadium capacities over 100,000 that are going to have quite a bit to say about expansion, too. And Michigan State and Wisconsin are going to have a say in this, too. I have the feeling that this isn't done yet.
Last edited:
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
The others are too obstinate, weren't paying attention, or received a busy signal.
The others are too obstinate, weren't paying attention, or received a busy signal.
Hammer
We'll be back.
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
Or don't have the academic chops/football stadium in the first place.
If it's gonna be Missouri, there's an eastern team coming in, too. And I highly doubt they'd stop at 14. The B1G is going to want as big a footprint as possible, too.
Or don't have the academic chops/football stadium in the first place.
If it's gonna be Missouri, there's an eastern team coming in, too. And I highly doubt they'd stop at 14. The B1G is going to want as big a footprint as possible, too.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
We haven't seen the total logic behind a team (or more likely, teams) over 12 joining a BCS conference yet, but until we do, I'm going to continue to be dismissive of the whole "markets" logic behind Missouri being everyone's #1 choice.
The conference with the most reason to increase the # of people in its direct footprint, the B1G, didn't go with a team that got them into New York state. They went with the "available" school with the most national impact behind its name.
We haven't seen the total logic behind a team (or more likely, teams) over 12 joining a BCS conference yet, but until we do, I'm going to continue to be dismissive of the whole "markets" logic behind Missouri being everyone's #1 choice.
The conference with the most reason to increase the # of people in its direct footprint, the B1G, didn't go with a team that got them into New York state. They went with the "available" school with the most national impact behind its name.
MountieBoyOz
Eater of Worlds
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
I'm sure Penn State wouldn't mind calling Syracuse to join.
SU fits the academic criteria, and the B1G can beat the tar out of the Orange a la Northwestern.
I'm sure Penn State wouldn't mind calling Syracuse to join.
SU fits the academic criteria, and the B1G can beat the tar out of the Orange a la Northwestern.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
I still don't get the New York play... Syracuse is the only choice that has even a semblance of sanity.
But in the end, it doesn't get them anything since Syracuse doesn't even have that great of a following. Not enough to make it worth it. This ends up costing the existing members money. Syracuse doesn't bring in more than the average football team.
I still don't get the New York play... Syracuse is the only choice that has even a semblance of sanity.
But in the end, it doesn't get them anything since Syracuse doesn't even have that great of a following. Not enough to make it worth it. This ends up costing the existing members money. Syracuse doesn't bring in more than the average football team.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
I still don't buy it. Basketball isn't enough. Plus it's not enough to draw the big fan following they need to really get BTN out there. NYC is a pro sports city. Always has been, always will be.
I still don't buy it. Basketball isn't enough. Plus it's not enough to draw the big fan following they need to really get BTN out there. NYC is a pro sports city. Always has been, always will be.
Hammer
We'll be back.
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
Okay, fine. If they take Missouri, they're going to have to take at least one more. If it's not Rutgers, and not Syracuse, then who? Kansas? It sure isn't going to be Kansas State or Iowa State, and it sure as hell isn't going to be Oklahoma or OK St. I don't think either of those has the academic chops or athletic departments that the rest of the conference wants to deal with.
Okay, fine. If they take Missouri, they're going to have to take at least one more. If it's not Rutgers, and not Syracuse, then who? Kansas? It sure isn't going to be Kansas State or Iowa State, and it sure as hell isn't going to be Oklahoma or OK St. I don't think either of those has the academic chops or athletic departments that the rest of the conference wants to deal with.
RaceBoarder
Waiting for the Snow to fly...
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
So then they can come out and use BC as bait for Notre Dame... Brilliant!
I got an idea: Boston College.
*hides under his happy chair*
So then they can come out and use BC as bait for Notre Dame... Brilliant!