College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons

[Hammer]

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Terrelle Pryor might be done at OSU, too. Rumors swirling everywhere.

 

[bronconick]

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Man, what a poison pill that kid turned out to be. Probably killed RichRod at Michigan by not getting him and having a 3 win season off the bat and killed Tressel and Ohio State by going there and blowing the top off the program.

 

[Hammer]

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Estimates are that the article in question will be on SI.com somewhere between 7:30-8:00 tonight, so about 75 minutes from now at the earliest.

 

[Priceless]

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Sports Illustrated looks at Tressel's resignation.

(Their exposé has not been posted yet)

Edit: Two different stories. The bombshell still has not hit.

From another story:

USC got drilled for an extra-benefits case in which a player received great quantities of cash and goods from an outside source because of his notoriety. An assistant coach allegedly knew and did nothing about it. (Former USC assistant Todd McNair has denied this, and the NCAA's most compelling piece of evidence is a two-minute phone call between McNair and one of the would-be agents after Bush left USC.) In August, Ohio State will go before the COI in an extra-benefits case in which multiple players received lesser quantities of cash and goods from an outside source because of their notoriety. The head coach knew and did nothing about it. (No allegedly necessary here. The NCAA has smoking-gun e-mails, and coach Jim Tressel has admitted he hid the information from the proper authorities.) At some point in the not-too-distant future, the NCAA enforcement staff will wrap its investigation into North Carolina's football program. The Tar Heels face an extra-benefits case in which multiple players received cash and goods from an outside source (in this case, an agent or multiple agents) based on their notoriety. In this case, the associate head coach was a former employee of one of the suspected agents, and the NCAA will presume he knew and did nothing about it. It's entirely probable the NCAA will accuse former UNC assistant John Blake of acting as an agent runner.

So will the COI consider the precedent it set in the USC case when it adjudicates the Ohio State and North Carolina cases? Not if it follows NCAA guidelines. The organization recently launched a Web page designed to demystify the enforcement process. Among the nuggets is a section which concerns using precedent when assigning penalties.

"Each case is unique, and applying case precedent is difficult (if not impossible) because all cases are different," according to the Web page. "Each case has its own aggravating and mitigating factors, and the committee considers both sides in assessing penalties."
No two robberies are the same. No two Ponzi schemes are the same. No two DUI cases are the same. Yet every day, judges in real courts weigh precedents and try to find the most similar cases so they don't issue a sentence out of step with the sentences handed to those who committed similar crimes. Is it too much to ask that the NCAA give its member institutions the same kind of justice?

The COI set a new standard in the USC case. "Never before has the Committee so significantly punished an institution for not being able to detect and curb the clandestine actions of agents and runners acting only to promote their own interests," according to USC's appeal of the COI's decision, released Thursday by the school.

The appeal makes another excellent point. "Until the Committee's Report in this case, no institution, no matter how egregious its conduct, has ever suffered both a two-year postseason ban and a loss of 30 or more scholarships -- even for systematic and intentional violations involving an institution's coaches or staff," according to the appeal. "Moreover, before this case, the Committee had never reduced the total number of scholarships to 75 for a single year, much less three years."

Edit2: If the story is going to be posted between 7:30 and 8, I'd bet on closer to 8...half the football fans in the country are hitting "refresh" every few seconds...their pageviews must be off the charts.

Edit3:

I think Dohrmann's story is delayed as SI.com publishers debate if they have time to erect a pay wall today.

 

[bronconick]

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From "Lantern Sports" on twitter

Pryor arrived in WHAC (Woody Hayes Athletic Center) in Nissan 350z with temp tags from May 24. He waved to the cameras.

 

[Priceless]

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From "Lantern Sports" on twitter

That car retails between 15 and 26K (depending on year and mileage) in the Columbus area. I'm sure he got it on the up and up

 

[Priceless]

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The computer gurus at SI have the story...just a matter of time before it is posted.
Just a matter of time before the Sun burns out, too

 

[kdilks]

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The computer gurus at SI have the story...just a matter of time before it is posted.
Just a matter of time before the Sun burns out, too

Hey, it's a complicated process. Hitting ctrl-x is one thing, but ctrl-v? Those are a whole two extra keys apart!

 

[bronconick]

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To be fair, most of CNN's online work seems to be of the "iCNN" variety where people send in their videos. Odds are they don't know how to take something that wasn't already in their email and put it on the site.

 

[amherstblackbear]

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The computer gurus at SI have the story...just a matter of time before it is posted.
Just a matter of time before the Sun burns out, too

First, the Rapture. Now this.

(glances at watch)

I'm tempted to just wait 'til tomorrow.

 

[Priceless]

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They are probably doing a whole redesign of the front page...I doubt this has to do with their technical abilities and more to do with milking the story for even more pageviews. As Darren Rovell just pointed out though, every minute they wait it becomes more likely someone scoops them.

Edit:

SI's Scott Novak: SI.com is not adding bandwidth for the Tressel story. Site didn't crash when A-Rod story hit.

 

[amherstblackbear]

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And it's up.

Pretty thin story, considering the hype. Was there something new that I missed?

eta:

I mean, I appreciate the seriousness of the tattoo thing going back several years, encompassing more players than we already knew about. I was expecting something else, I guess.

 

[Priceless]

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It's up

 

[Hammer]

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And it's up.

Pretty thin story, considering the hype. Was there something new that I missed?

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I mean, I appreciate the seriousness of the tattoo thing going back several years, encompassing more players than we already knew about. I was expecting something else, I guess.

Basically, tats, weed and cars, with some money, too. It should still be heavier than USC. If this isn't blatant Lack of Institutional Control, someone's not doing their job at the NCAA.

 

[Priceless]

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Grant Wahl asks: More corrupt, Ohio State or FIFA?

 

[amherstblackbear]

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This isn't to excuse Tressel at all. But OSU, Alabama, Auburn, USC . . . it seems like if you're going to make a run at a BCS title, you have to be willing to get your hands dirty.

Penn State fans are probably feeling better about their program right now, but it seems like the differences only highlight the basic problem.

 

[kdilks]

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And it's up.

Pretty thin story, considering the hype. Was there something new that I missed?

eta:

I mean, I appreciate the seriousness of the tattoo thing going back several years, encompassing more players than we already knew about. I was expecting something else, I guess.

At this point, what OSU has to fear the most is getting hit with "lack of institutional control" by the NCAA, and I guess the main thing this article adds is circumstantial evidence towards making that case.

 

[Priceless]

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This isn't to excuse Tressel at all. But OSU, Alabama, Auburn, USC . . . it seems like if you're going to make a run at a BCS title, you have to be willing to get your hands dirty.

Penn State fans are probably feeling better about their program right now, but it seems like the differences only highlight the basic problem.

I said this when the NCAA was investigating us, and it is still true: If the NCAA (or, in modern day parlance, Yahoo Sports or SI) spent endless resources and time digging into ANY athletic department, it is going to find infractions. Most will be small stuff that are honest mistakes (the NCAA has a $h!tload of rules) but the only infractions people really care about are football or basketball; and the only time the NCAA or the media will investigate is if there's serious smoke and they can sell a lot of magazines/pageviews when they break the story. If this had happened to the Ohio State cross country team, we'd be enjoying a quiet night.

 

[bigmrg74]

I said this when the NCAA was investigating us, and it is still true: If the NCAA (or, in modern day parlance, Yahoo Sports or SI) spent endless resources and time digging into ANY athletic department, it is going to find infractions. Most will be small stuff that are honest mistakes (the NCAA has a $h!tload of rules) but the only infractions people really care about are football or basketball; and the only time the NCAA or the media will investigate is if there's serious smoke and they can sell a lot of magazines/pageviews when they break the story. If this had happened to the Ohio State cross country team, we'd be enjoying a quiet night.

100,000 people don't pay an arm and a leg for tickets to cross country races. NASCAR maybe, but not CC.

 

[Priceless]

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100,000 people don't pay an arm and a leg for tickets to cross country races. NASCAR maybe, but not CC.

Also true. I doubt a XC star can walk into a tattoo parlor and trade ink for an autographed photo either.