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College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons

Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons

Oh give it up. You and the rest of the USC sycophants can get off the cross. You're not being persecuted. You broke the rules and were punished for it.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Ah yes, USC, the single most persecuted team in the nation. *yawn*
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Compared to the rogues gallery that makes up college football...yes.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
There's an easy way to avoid all of this. Don't run a dirty program.
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Another way is for the NCAA to have some semblance of integrity by punishing programs equitably.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Remove all doubt and run a clean program. Period.
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How do you prevent a player's parents from accepting gifts when the parents live 120 miles away? How do you find out so you can self-report? Do you require every athlete's parental units hand over their bank statements and tax returns? Hire private investigators?

How is ONE player and his parents taking money equate to a dirty program?
 
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Terrierbyassociation said:
How do you prevent a player's parents from accepting gifts when the parents live 120 miles away? How do you find out so you can self-report? Do you require every athlete's parental units hand over their bank statements and tax returns? Hire private investigators?
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You keep an eye on where the player is living and what he's driving. When they're out of whack with what he should have, you ask questions, you don't stick your head in the sand and hope that by pretending there was <em>no way</em> you could have known, the NCAA will let it go. And when the NCAA investigates, you cooperate, you don't stonewall.

How is ONE player and his parents taking money equate to a dirty program?
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USC only got punished for one player, but there was plenty of other stuff that was sketchy at the very least going on. For starters, there was the whole thing where Carroll practically invited agents and other hangers-on into the USC locker room.
 
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Craig P. said:
You keep an eye on where the player is living and what he's driving. When they're out of whack with what he should have, you ask questions, you don't stick your head in the sand and hope that by pretending there was <em>no way</em> you could have known, the NCAA will let it go. And when the NCAA investigates, you cooperate, you don't stonewall.


USC only got punished for one player, but there was plenty of other stuff that was sketchy at the very least going on. For starters, there was the whole thing where Carroll practically invited agents and other hangers-on into the USC locker room.
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He lived in the dorms, and drove an Impala. His parents were middle class (his mom is still working as a city of San Diego employee.) USC didn't hide anything, or do a cover-up like Sweater Vest. Bush is the one who stonewalled investigators, but USC could not force him to do anything because he was no longer a student.

Mike Garett was an arrogant weasel though, I give you that.
 
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This is not me defending USC but what Sweatervest did is way worse than what USC did. (and what Auburn did was worse than that!) If they dont get hit hard then USC has every right to be upset. USC's punishment set a precedent and the NCAA should abide but it.

They wont, but they should. If it was Ohio University or Miami of Ohio and not OSU there would be no doubt. The NCAA has been like this for years there is a reason SMU got bent over a table while Texas and the rest of the SWC just got normal penalties.

USC breaks the mold because it was so out there...it is like Bonds and steroids. (or the Fab Five at Michigan) Otherwise you can usually pick the punishment by the conference or the size of the name brand. If Sweatervest keeps his job after being caught red handed lying and covering up this crap then what is even the point of having the rules?
 
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It's not just the programs that are corrupt, it's the bowl games too.

Fiesta Bowl officials are bracing for what could be a scathing report from an internal investigation of the event’s financial and political dealings, some of which may have skirted, or broken, state and federal law.

 The report, which could come as soon as next week, is the culmination of an investigation by a three-member panel.

 The Fiesta Bowl president and chief executive, John Junker, who in two decades directed the bowl to the Bowl Championship Series, was placed on paid administrative leave a month ago as the internal examination proceeded. The investigation is separate from a state attorney general’s investigation into possible criminal violations involving political contributions by Fiesta Bowl employees.
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Seriously. He ought to be fired. And possibly the AD. What a load of crap, and they weren't even smart enough not to leave an electronic paper trail.
 
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alfablue said:
Its getting deeper every report....
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You aren't kidding. Back when this whole thing broke before the Sugar Bowl I thought, "Whatever, no big deal." This is serious business now. A minor infraction is turning into a major coverup which is a serious infraction. I always knew sweatervest ran a dirty program. This is the first crack in the fortress walls. I hope the NCAA drops the banhammer on him.
 
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What I'm really sad about is that I want OSU to have a clean and strong program- it forces us to be better.

Oh, well.
 
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The CEO of the Fiesta Bowl got canned and the BC$ is threatening to kick the bowl out. Anyone want to see the Cotton Bowl get their place back in the national championship picture? The bowl has a special place with Cuse fans because that's where we won our only national title.
 
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Oh god, like the Fiesta Bowl is doing anything that the rest of the bowls aren't doing. I wish I could have a job at the Chick-Fil-A bowl committee where I get $100 grand to put on a football game, a golf outing, and don't even have to worry about ticket sales because we're tied into the ACC and SEC and play the game in Atlanta.
 
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MountieBoyOz said:
The CEO of the Fiesta Bowl got canned and the BC$ is threatening to kick the bowl out. Anyone want to see the Cotton Bowl get their place back in the national championship picture? The bowl has a special place with Cuse fans because that's where we won our only national title.
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I don't think we would see em getting kicked out of the BCS, but punished perhaps for getting caught making the BCS look bad. My guess is that they vote to bring in the Cotton Bowl at Jerry World, and the Fiesta's pentence is that the Cotton gets their spot in the rotation for the BCS Bowl so that they can start rotating in the Cotton as well. 8 years without the BCS Bowl is a long time to go without that extra game and moneymaker there.
 
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