College Football III: We may lose, but we keep the score close!

[RaceBoarder]

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I can see both sides of this argument... For the past 2 years, I have been faced with 2 options when wanting to view a Blackhawks game: Pay some dude who never goes to the UC 1.5-3x Face Value or watch on TV at home or at an establishment... As a fan, this is frustrating as all hell when you know that a majority of the seats available for sale are strictly a money-making effort...

At the same time, however, I have had Chicago Cubs postseason tickets and sold them for a profit... Most notably, I had tickets for the 2007 NLCS and was asking for $350 for 2 tickets... They cost me ~$90 with fees and such... I did have a concionse though, as I did check with every Cub fan I knew who didn't have tickets to see if they were interested... I did sell 1 pair to someone for what I paid for them... So of my 4 possible tickets, 2 went to true fans, and 2 to the open market... All was a moot point however since they lost in the NLDS that year...

Point being, this is the world we live in... Selling tickets for profit is an everyday job for some people... They are simply exploiting the system... You can get paid to sit at a computer and get into the "virtual line" when an on-sale date comes around for a hot event... Unless the ticket issuer is going to take preventative measures (like ticket pick-up/delivery in California), I would have to think that it's fair game... The harassment that the people are getting is almost fair as well, as their position would surely enrage many fans... If they thought there would be no backlash, shame on them for not knowing their market...

 

[bigblue_dl]

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Let's hope they don't play an alumni game...ND would get murdered.

They should have made it so one season ticket=opportunity to buy 1 Rose Bowl ticket. If you have season tickets, you can get a Rose Bowl ticket, if someone who bought student season tickets buys their 1 ticket and decides to sell it for more, then I don't have a problem with it, they are a student season ticket holder, after all, it should be their decision if they want to sell their ticket.

 

[unofan]

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This is why you always scalp tickets anonymously when it's for more than face value. It's always going to be frowned upon by some/many.

 

[WeWantMore]

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This is why you always scalp tickets anonymously when it's for more than face value. It's always going to be frowned upon by some/many.

I found that odd as well. I guess Facebook is more comfortable for a lot of people, but I always go Craigslist when I'm trying to sell stuff.

 

[Bob Gray]

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I was just noticing that San Jose State went 0-11 versus FBS schools this season, so if they'd stayed on ASU's schedule, ASU would most assuredly have gotten that sixth win for going to a bowl. Makes you wonder though, whether replacing a 1-12 San Jose State team with a 2-9 Portland State team might have slightly improved ASU's strength of schedule? Just an interesting quirk I noticed. Not sure how one being an FBS team and one not impacts SOS calcs.


Here in Phoenix, we have the following teams coming for a visit: Oklahoma (seems like they come here every year), Connecticut, Iowa, Missouri, and oh, yah, Oregon and Auburn.

 

[blockski]

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1. The students should have only been able to buy 1 ticket per ID.
2. They should have been required to pick up the tickets in person in Pasadena
3. These are not like regular tickets, even though they were sold to students at face value, the students had unique access to those tickets that no one else gets.
4. Any student complaining about being called out for this practice should shut up. Yes, you probably have a right (even in spite of scalping laws) to re-sell for a profit. Others also have a right to be ****ed off about it, and they have the right to call you out for it.

 

[Slap Shot]

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Shouldn't you be allowed to sell your ticket for whatever you can get?

Yes. but that doesn't mean others can't call them out.

 

[JF_Gophers]

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The Sun Bowl has sold out (ND/Mia). As much as I hate ND, they know how to travel.

 

[Patman]

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4. Any student complaining about being called out for this practice should shut up. Yes, you probably have a right (even in spite of scalping laws) to re-sell for a profit. Others also have a right to be ****ed off about it, and they have the right to call you out for it.

There's always going to be students who don't get their opportunity. UConn has this problem with student season tickets for basketball... you are allowed two tickets (with options to buy at Gampel and Hartford)... a lot of students will wait in line and then buy their pair and sell of the second for as high as it will go... in my later years of grad they switched to a lottery system. In either case, a lot of student tickets became rather scalpable even if it is just amongst students. To me, the opportunity to buy two is to get it so you and your buddy or you and the gf can go... I know UConn students would go apoplectic about exposure but that's because a lot of them are just chavs from a nicer hometown. If you talk to these people you get the feeling like they're owed something for their ability to get the ticket. I don't feel bad about any of the 32 getting exposed... tough ****.

edit: the big thing is that this is allocated by the school for the students and its a finite resource (hence a 20 minute sell out)... the priority should be to get the tickets into as many legitimate students hands who intend to go to the game. The school screwed up and these "kids" are jerks.

 

[HumRsky]

Boise is a terrible school.

Interesting note (and I don't have a personal connection to either school): In the US News rankings Boise received a score of 34 and Idaho received a score of 30. (Boise is a Regional University-West, and Idaho is a National University, but that does not appear to have any bearing on how the scores are calculated.)

 

[bigblue_dl]

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interesting note (and i don't have a personal connection to either school): In the us news rankings boise received a score of 34 and idaho received a score of 30. (boise is a regional university-west, and idaho is a national university, but that does not appear to have any bearing on how the scores are calculated.)

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[Bob Gray]

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An interesting tally of what college football head coaches make.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2010-coaches-contracts-table.htm?loc=interstitialskip

Some numbers aren't surprising, some are. Wake Forest pays out $2.9 million while Florida State pays out $1.8 million.

JoPa at $1.1 million is a bargain.

 

[alfablue]

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Interesting note (and I don't have a personal connection to either school): In the US News rankings Boise received a score of 34 and Idaho received a score of 30. (Boise is a Regional University-West, and Idaho is a National University, but that does not appear to have any bearing on how the scores are calculated.)

Nice that you all care so much about how one poster hates BSU so much.

None the less, when you read through how US News comes up with the numbers, the scoring IS based heavily on the schools that they are ranked against. So Idaho is up against national schools- especially in the area- such as Washington State, Washington, Oregon, OSU, Montana, etc. Idaho is 81st among all natinal public universities.

Whereas BSU is ranked against other regional schools, such as Abilene Christian University, Chapman University, St. Edward's University, California Polytechnic State University-San Luis Obispo and Trinity University. BSU is 51st among western regional universities.

(got some of that from the Idaho Statesman- a Boise based paper)

It's a lot about the schools offered, graduate degrees, and amount spend on education.

But what still concerns me about BSU is that their 4 year graduation rate is <10%, and the overall graduation rate hovers around 26%. This is the same as it was 20 years ago, when I was involved. And being that they get a large amount of their funding from Idaho Tax Payers (inluding my parents), it needs to be better. (Idaho's overall rate is ~58%, which is the best in the WAC, but IMHO, nothing to be really proud of. They need work, too)

Then again, if you really want to focus on ONE POSTERS hate of BCC, feel free.

 

[unofan]

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Interesting note (and I don't have a personal connection to either school): In the US News rankings Boise received a score of 34 and Idaho received a score of 30. (Boise is a Regional University-West, and Idaho is a National University, but that does not appear to have any bearing on how the scores are calculated.)

Except that the categorization does have an impact on the score; the #1 school in each category defaults to 100 with everyone else curved accordingly. Idaho's being compared to the Ivy League, Stanford, etc.; Boise is not.

Edit: At least, that was the case the last time I looked at the rankings in earnest, which was a few years ago. They might have changed their formula since then, but I doubt it.

 

[alfablue]

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An interesting tally of what college football head coaches make.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2010-coaches-contracts-table.htm?loc=interstitialskip

Some numbers aren't surprising, some are. Wake Forest pays out $2.9 million while Florida State pays out $1.8 million.

JoPa at $1.1 million is a bargain.

So RichRod is getting 2.25M, and has almost as many B10 losses in 3 seasons as Bo did, well, ever?

Please end this maddness on Jan 1.

 

[Bob Gray]

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So RichRod is getting 2.25M, and has almost as many B10 losses in 3 seasons as Bo did, well, ever?

Please end this maddness on Jan 1.

Depends on how you look at it though. I mean he's making at lot less than a guy like Ferentz at Iowa. Maybe RichRod will make a move to Wake Forest to get better pay?

 

[blockski]

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Schools that aren't traditional powers (like Iowa and Wake Forest) have to pay more to retain good coaches.

Plus, I don't buy any dollar to dollar comparison between coaches salaries - there are so many incentive clauses and off-the-books income from coaching camps and the like that it's really impossible to do an apples to apples comparison with one number.

 

[bronconick]

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Pretty much what Blockski said. Even Fisher's 1.8 million is actually only $225,000 in base salary

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sp...rida-state-head-coach-to-be-jimbo-fisher.html

-The term of the contract is five years. Begins Jan. 5, 2010 and ends Jan. 4, 2015.
-Here’s how the guaranteed salary pays out:
BASE SALARY: $225,000
RADIO/TV/MEDIA COMPENSATION: $400,000
SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS/PUBLIC RELATIONS: $675,000
APPAREL, SHOE, EQUIPMENT CONTRACTS: $500,000
TOTAL: $1.8 million

INCENTIVES:
-$50,000 bonus for winning the ACC’s Atlantic Division.
-$50,000 bonus for winning the ACC championship.
-$125,000 bonus for appearing in the bowl game designated the national championship game.
-$125,000 bonus for winning the bowl game designated the national championship game.
-$50,000 bonus for playing in a BCS bowl game that’s not the national championship game.
-$30,000 bonus for playing in a non-BCS bowl game.
-$100,000 bonus for finishing in the top 5 of the AP poll.
-$50,000 bonus for finishing in the top 10 of the AP poll.
-$100,000 bonus for finishing undefeated.
-$50,000 bonus for being named National Coach of the Year.
-$25,000 bonus for being named ACC Coach of the Year.
-$25,000 bonus for the football team achieving a 75 percent graduation success rate. The bonus will be calculated annually at the end of the summer semester.
-$25,000 bonus for the football team achieving a .925 Academic Performance Rating (APR). The bonus will be calculated annually at the end of the summer semester.

 

[Bob Gray]

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Of course they aren't exact numbers, but it still gives a feel for what's being paid to who and is good fodder for discussion. Or maybe it's just me that didn't know Wake pays out that much.

 

[bronconick]

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Of course they aren't exact numbers, but it still gives a feel for what's being paid to who and is good fodder for discussion. Or maybe it's just me that didn't know Wake pays out that much.

Grobe was "the" hot name after he took Wake Forest to an ACC title in 2006. Turned it into a ten year contract. It's how Schiano's getting $2 million at Rutgers, of all places as well.