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College Football III: We may lose, but we keep the score close!

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Stanford-Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl
UCONN-Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl
 
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WeWantMore said:
Oh shut up, Craig James, "congratulating" TCU on a fine season.

Blech. Now Herbstreit jumps on too, saying the Rose Bowl is still a big deal.

Way too much of a "be happy with what you got" vibe for me.
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So, they shouldn't be happy?

There are three undefeated teams left, one of them is going to get left out and TCU clearly has the weakest resume of the 3.

dxmnkd316 said:
Honestly, while I'm not blown away by Kill, I'm going to remain optimistic. Let's play some football before pushing the program off the ledge.
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Good hire for Minnesota. I've been reading the GopherHole, and the wildly unrealistic expectations that posters over there have are just hilarious.
 
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Patterson's doing his interview in TCU's empty basketball arena. This is practice for the Big East.
 
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blockski said:
So, they shouldn't be happy?

There are three undefeated teams left, one of them is going to get left out and TCU clearly has the weakest resume of the 3.
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They should be happy. However, they should also be upset about getting jobbed by a broken system. Craig James spent the whole year criticizing them, then he has the gall to "congratulate" them and pretend like nothing wrong with this picture?
 
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Holtz: Follow the money. That's why I followed Craig.

Nice.
 
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WeWantMore said:
They should be happy. However, they should also be upset about getting jobbed by a broken system. Craig James spent the whole year criticizing them, then he has the gall to "congratulate" them and pretend like nothing wrong with this picture?
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Whatever. They'll get to play in the Granddaddy of them All. That's a real horrible punishment.
 
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blockski said:
Good hire for Minnesota. I've been reading the GopherHole, and the wildly unrealistic expectations that posters over there have are just hilarious.
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I think it's better than it's being made out to be. Not a grand slam, but I think he could be a solid midmajor coach moving up. Only time will tell how good it is.
 
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blockski said:
Whatever. They'll get to play in the Granddaddy of them All. That's a real horrible punishment.
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I almost feel badly for Boise, though.

A inch away from being in a top-tier bowl -- instead they play in the muffler bowl on 12/22. And where is it? Of course. Nevada. Hehe, I think Mountie is right about this one.
 
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WeWantMore said:
Stanford-Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl
UCONN-Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl
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UConn fans perfer Oklahoma... VTech QBs, runners, tear UConn apart. While the Orange Bowl would have been an easier trip, we at least have a chance with Oklahoma.
 
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First Time said:
Which is the rumor as to why the Big 12 "influenced" it not to happen.
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One final screw job from the Big XII to Nebraska, then.

A rematch with Washington. A rematch of a 56-21 asskicking that eliminated the idea of Locker being drafted #1 with a 4-20 game.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I think it's better than it's being made out to be. Not a grand slam, but I think he could be a solid midmajor coach moving up. Only time will tell how good it is.
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Minnesota wasn't going to be hitting any grand slams. The school has no money to do that. For all the talk of Leach, there's no way the Gophers could even come close to matching the kind of salary he had at Texas Tech. I also heard rumors of Richt - same problem there - Richt makes almost 3 million a season.

So, there's money.

There's also the organizational situation. If you're a coach, you're walking into a place where you'll definitely have a new President and probably a new AD before you're done. It's not the most stable workplace - the school is looking at cutting sports. That's not a great situation to be in.

So, there's that.

There's also the fact that Minnesota is Minnesota. It's not a great destination, period. It's just not a step up for any HC from another BCS conference. Since Maturi wants HC experience in this case (and probably rightly so, given the circumstances) that severely limits the pool.
 
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blockski said:
Minnesota wasn't going to be hitting any grand slams. The school has no money to do that. For all the talk of Leach, there's no way the Gophers could even come close to matching the kind of salary he had at Texas Tech. I also heard rumors of Richt - same problem there - Richt makes almost 3 million a season.

So, there's money.

There's also the organizational situation. If you're a coach, you're walking into a place where you'll definitely have a new President and probably a new AD before you're done. It's not the most stable workplace - the school is looking at cutting sports. That's not a great situation to be in.

So, there's that.

There's also the fact that Minnesota is Minnesota. It's not a great destination, period. It's just not a step up for any HC from another BCS conference. Since Maturi wants HC experience in this case (and probably rightly so, given the circumstances) that severely limits the pool.
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First, there was quite a bit of info that leaked saying they were willing to pay big bucks this time around. Whether that's true, who know.s

Mike Leach wanted to coach here. He said as much. While I would have accepted him, I didn't really want him. And it seems like no one else in football wants him either.

Agreed on the organizational situation.

Minnesota is in the same situation that wisconsin was in before Alvarez stepped in. Don't pretend like Madison was a football mecca before that.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
First, there was quite a bit of info that leaked saying they were willing to pay big bucks this time around. Whether that's true, who know.s
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Bruininks was on record saying that he wanted incentive-based contacts. That's the only way you'll get Minnesota to shell out big money. That's the only way they can afford to shell out big money. Hell, they're busy paying buyouts for Mason, Monson, and Brewster.

So, in a word, no - I don't think that's true.

Mike Leach wanted to coach here. He said as much. While I would have accepted him, I didn't really want him. And it seems like no one else in football wants him either.
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Leach is somewhat radioactive because of the way he left TTU. That said, it doesn't matter that he said he wanted to coach there - you've still got to square that with the salary and the guaranteed compensation.

Agreed on the organizational situation.

Minnesota is in the same situation that wisconsin was in before Alvarez stepped in. Don't pretend like Madison was a football mecca before that.
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Why do Minnesota fans always repeat this?

I don't have to pretend that Wisconsin was a better job back in the day, because the facts are good enough. Wisconsin, despite having crappy teams in the 70s, was in the top five of national attendance year in and year out. Camp Randall was full every Saturday, with the exception of Don Morton's last years - and even then, the 'small' crowds in Madison would be larger than what Minnesota's drawn to TCF Bank Stadium of late.

Badger Average Home Attendance and Team Record 1963 - 1989

1963: 61,223 5-4
1964: 60,718 3-6
1965: 56,428 2-7-1
1966: 51,725 3-6-1
1967: 52,495 0-9-1
1968: 43,559 0-10
1969: 48,898 3-7
1970: 56,223 4-5-1
1971: 68,131 4-6-1
1972: 70,454 4-7 (national rank in attendance) - 4th
1973: 60,400 4-7 5th
1974: 71,630 7-4 4th
1975: 73,962 4-6-1 4th
1976: 70,898 5-6 5th
1977: 72,682 5-6 5th
1978: 71,443 5-4-2 7th
1979: 73,979 4-7 7th
1980: 71,360 4-7 8th
1981: 71,640 7-5 10th (Garden State Bowl)
1982: 71,060 7-5 11th (Independence Bowl)
1983: 69,787 7-4 16th
1984: 74,681 7-4-1 13th (Hall of Fame Bowl)
1985: 71,613 5-6 14th
1986: 68,052 3-9
1987: 59,256 3-8 (Don Morton year 1)
1988: 49,297 1-10 (Don Morton year 2)
1989: 41,734 2-9 (Don Morton year 3)

With Barry:
1990 51,027 1-10
1991 49,676 5-6
1992 61,378 5-6
1993 75,507 10-1-1
1994 77,328 8-3-1
1995 78,222 4-5-2
1996 77,949 8-5
1997 77,880 8-5
1998 77,428 11-1
1999 78,081 10-2
2000 78,711 9-4
2001 78,333 5-7
2002 78,023 8-6
2003 78,486 7-6
2004 82,368 9-3
2005 82,551 10-3

Bielema:
2006 81,368 12-1
2007 81,747 9-4
2008 81,088 7-6
2009 80,109 10-3
2010 79,862 11-1

Yeah, the early 70s - top 5 crowd in the nation watching a sub-.500 team. Wisconsin has a long history of supporting the team through thick and thin. So does Iowa. That's what makes them more attractive jobs than Minnesota.

It's no football mecca, but there was something to build on. Alvarez saw that, that's why he took the job.
 
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blockski said:
It's no football mecca, but there was something to build on. Alvarez saw that, that's why he took the job.
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I think he took the job because he saw that in twenty years he could screw over the Badger hockey team.
 
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No one else wanted the Gopher job, and why would they? It's a career ending position. The last head coach to be a head coach after the Gophers was Lou Holtz.

I doubt Mike Leach really wanted the job...He was probably using them to attempt to make some more money from another university. If he did come, how long would he last and would he sue the university if he were fired?
 
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I wonder how Gopher fans would've reacted when Leach was going all "Bridge on the River Kwai" and stuffing kids into boxes like they were going into the hole in prison. :D
 
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