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College Football II: The BCS hits the Fan

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bronconick said:
State's schedule *is* pretty easy, but every year the eventual champion has stuff like this. Alabama's unstoppable team last year needed two blocked field goals in the 4th quarter to beat sub .500 Tennessee at home.
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Very true. I also remember in Tennessee's championship year, all Arkansas had to do was get one first down to seal the game. Instead, the QB fumbled and UT was able to get the tying/winning (don't remember which) score. There are almost always close calls - the champ is just the one who happens to survive them.
 
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MountieBoyOz said:
However, it's a chance to get your program on television to potential recruits. Yesterday's win on TV showed that Cuse could hang with a West Virginia. That exposure is good. A bowl game is good publicity.
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That's completely different than a statement that "Bowls=money in the coffers."

Exposure impacting recruiting impacting future home attendance is one thing (though, really, isn't winning the alpaqua.com Taco Johns Bowl the equivalent of winning the CBI or CIT in basketball?), but in strictly financial terms most schools take a hit on bowl games.

MaizeRage said:
My understanding has been that it about cancels itself out. Teams get $500,000 for the crappier bowls, and the expenses for the trip are pretty close to $500,000. If there's any difference in cost either way, it's not significant.
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That's why I say it depends on the revenue sharing agreement. Most non-BCS bowls pay out 500k-$1 million per team. But that money generally goes straight to the conference to be divvied up 10-16 ways - sometimes the participating school gets a 2nd share, sometimes they get some expenses paid off the top, but in other conferences they don't. The school itself probably only gets 1/10th of that payout on average.

LynahFan said:
That's only true in the short term, though. If you sit home *one* December, maybe you break even or come out a little ahead that year. But sitting at home year after year means that your recruiting will slip, which eventually will cost you wins, and therefore fans, and therefore ratings, and therefore money.
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yeah, but that's a product of winning and losing, not playing in the bowl game itself. If you're sitting out year after year, that means you're below .500 year after year, so of course that will take a toll on recruitng. I'd argue the exposure and benefits of a meaningless early December bowl game are typically miniscule in the long run. There are certainly exceptions (up-and-comer teams that make it to a bowl game for the first time ever, teams looking to use a bowl as a stepping stone, etc.).
 
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unofan said:
That's why I say it depends on the revenue sharing agreement. Most non-BCS bowls pay out 500k-$1 million per team. But that money generally goes straight to the conference to be divvied up 10-16 ways - sometimes the participating school gets a 2nd share, sometimes they get some expenses paid off the top, but in other conferences they don't. The school itself probably only gets 1/10th of that payout on average.
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In the Big Ten, and I would assume other conferences, the money doesn't go straight to the conference. Teams get to pay off their expenses for going to the bowl game, and then whatever is left over goes to the conference.
 
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unofan said:
That's why I say it depends on the revenue sharing agreement. Most non-BCS bowls pay out 500k-$1 million per team. But that money generally goes straight to the conference to be divvied up 10-16 ways - sometimes the participating school gets a 2nd share, sometimes they get some expenses paid off the top, but in other conferences they don't. The school itself probably only gets 1/10th of that payout on average.
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Correction. That money goes to expenses first, then to the conference. And for the smaller bowls the conference usually doesn't see a dime as most teams spend more then the payout for the bowl (sending the band, administrators, player families, etc. adds up fast).
 
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Boise State plays LA Tech on ESPN 2 in 10 minutes... Tuesday night football takes the "Any time, anywhere" philosophy just a bit too far, IMO...
 
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It's been three minutes and Boise State is still scoreless. No way this team is a worthy national championship contender.
 
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Unsportsmanlike on the coach for arguing with the ref? Right, WAC officials, right. Keep that BCS check coming.
 
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That better be one helluva conniption fit he's throwing on the sideline to get 15 yards.
 
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I'm surprised they let them wear the all blue unis on that blue field. I suppose it would be much easier to see them if you were at field level, though.
 
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The fumble reverse play needs to be in every team's playbook.
 
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bronconick said:
It's got to suck *** for film prep.
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A local Idaho Falls paper apparently reported this-
BSU TURF GIVES FOES THE BLUES!

RUSTON, La. -- Boise State's blue turf at Bronco Stadium isn't just a gimmick that makes games look strange on television.

Louisiana Tech coach Sonny Dykes said it really does have an effect on the opposition -- and not just when the game is being played.

Dykes, whose squad visits the No. 2 Broncos today, said the blue turf makes film study much more difficult.

"You can't see any numbers (on players' jerseys) at all," Dykes told the News-Star. "You watch the film and you can't tell who anybody is. After two or three days of watching, you can kind of learn who the players are by just their body type, and their size and their posture, and that kind of stuff."

Tech quarterback Ross Jenkins got a few snaps at Bronco Stadium when the Bulldogs (3-4, 2-1 Western Athletic Conference) visited Boise State (6-0, 2-0) two years ago and lost 38-3. He said the blue turf becomes less of a factor as the game progresses.

"The blue turf is a little bit different, but I didn't notice that after a few minutes," Jenkins said. "We did our walkthrough there the day before the game, but after a little while you just start playing ball. It all kind of blends in."

Oregon State painted its practice field blue the week before its Sept. 25 game in Boise. The Beavers lost 37-24. Tech won't be making any changes to adjust to the blue turf.

"I think Oregon State probably did that because they're a little further along with their program than we are," Dykes said.

Dykes is far more concerned with the Broncos themselves than the turf they play on. Boise State's players and coaches have far more to do with the team's current 58-game home winning streak than the blue turf.

"The big thing with us is we've just got to go play well, and we've got to treat this game like we do any other, just in terms of trying to prepare well and practice well," Dykes said.
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I'd link it directly, but the Post Register requires a subscription to read their articles. I'm sure this has been reported in other places, too.
 
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bronconick said:
So, can we get Boise and Ohio State to play in the "Unnecessary throw back pass to our Heisman candidate QB while up 20 to pad his stats" bowl?
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Unfortunately, BSU has to do stuff like this in order to stay in any position for a BCS Title Game slot. Chris Peterson would love to call off the dogs, but he can't or he the Broncos will get passed by every major 1 loss team.

I hate doing this, but I'm rooting for USC and Ole Miss this weekend.
 
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