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College Football 2009: Bowl College Stupidity Rankings

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Holtz probably still thinks Notre Dame is winning the National Title :p
 
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Craig P. said:
Seems like half the season, we've been playing against anywhere from 18 to 20 players. No different tonight.

Let's face it, with what's on the line for Pitt, you knew we were going to get ****ed up the *** at some point with a Big East crew officiating. I don't think there's a conference crew out there that ISN'T corrupt.
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Yep, you nailed it. Notre Dame wouldn't be a mediocre team if all those cheaters weren't out to get them.

Of course, they could just be a mediocre team...

By the way, are Clausen and Tate still the top two Heisman candidates in your mind or do you finally concede to reality? I'm more than willing to compromise and just pencil in whoever the hell is throwing and catching the ball for someone like North Carolina.

Actually, that wouldn't be fair. The Tar Heels have actually beaten a ranked team. Who are the starting QB and receivers for Duke these days??
 
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XYZ said:
Yep, you nailed it. Notre Dame wouldn't be a mediocre team if all those cheaters weren't out to get them.
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Nah, we'd still be mediocre. In fact, I don't even think we'd have won the game today, but it would have been nice to lose it legitimately, rather than on a bull**** call by a crew that was bought and paid for.

By the way, are Clausen and Tate still the top two Heisman candidates in your mind
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Yep. I'd go with Tate right now, actually.
 
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Craig P. said:
(BTW, Clausen did win the games against MSU, Purdue, and Washington.)
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Ignoring Washington...so did Scott Tolzien. Tolzien also gets an added bonus for thumping Michigan. The same Michigan your boys lost to.

Tolzien for Hobey.
 
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Craig P. said:
Kinda hard to win when you're playing against 18. Just saying...

(BTW, Clausen did win the games against MSU, Purdue, and Washington.)
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He said Tebow wins big games, not just games.

I'd love to see Wisconsin vs. Notre Dame. Wisc's beaten the tar out of teams ND's struggled to beat, and no one exactly considers the badgers world beaters, or worthy of heisman accolades.

Is the rest of your offense/team that bad that they're playing average/mediocre all season despite having their QB and wide receiver being heisman worthy?
 
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one_to7 said:
He said Tebow wins big games, not just games.

I'd love to see Wisconsin vs. Notre Dame. Wisc's beaten the tar out of teams ND's struggled to beat, and no one exactly considers the badgers world beaters, or worthy of heisman accolades.

Is the rest of your offense/team that bad that they're playing average/mediocre all season despite having their QB and wide receiver being heisman worthy?
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Clearly you don't get it. Wisconsin doesn't have a Jesus on campus or gold helmets. UW also has demonstrated the nerve to beat someone other than Hawaii in a bowl game in the past 13 years.

And don't even make me get into the global officiating conspiracy against Wisconsin...
 
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Craig P. said:
Nah, we'd still be mediocre. In fact, I don't even think we'd have won the game today, but it would have been nice to lose it legitimately, rather than on a bull**** call by a crew that was bought and paid for.
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one_to7 said:
He said Tebow wins big games, not just games.

I'd love to see Wisconsin vs. Notre Dame. Wisc's beaten the tar out of teams ND's struggled to beat, and no one exactly considers the badgers world beaters, or worthy of heisman accolades.

Is the rest of your offense/team that bad that they're playing average/mediocre all season despite having their QB and wide receiver being heisman worthy?
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Like I said the Gophers beat 2 of the 3 teams Notre Dame beat in Craig's example...the same Gophers who barely beat SDSU. If that is all it takes to win the Heisman then Adam Weber for Heisman! (he also beat Greg Paulus aka the Outstate NY BretFavre!)

So basically Notre Dame is worthy of the Motor City Bowl is what I am saying...congrats!
 
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Handyman said:
Like I said the Gophers beat 2 of the 3 teams Notre Dame beat in Craig's example...the same Gophers who barely beat SDSU. If that is all it takes to win the Heisman then Adam Weber for Heisman! (he also beat Greg Paulus aka the Outstate NY BretFavre!)

So basically Notre Dame is worthy of the Motor City Bowl is what I am saying...congrats!
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That Paulus comparison only worked in the first two games - SU fans now hate Paulus with an undying fire.
 
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GreatLakerMohawk said:
That Paulus comparison only worked in the first two games - SU fans now hate Paulus with an undying fire.
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That may be...but when the Gophs played him ESPN slobbered over him like he played for Notre Dame :p
 
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one_to7 said:
Is the rest of your offense/team that bad that they're playing average/mediocre all season despite having their QB and wide receiver being heisman worthy?
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Yes.

The OL is OK, but iffy at LT and good DLs have been able to get pressure with just their front four.

The defense has been awful all season. They've gotten late stops to give us a chance to come back in games, but they've also generally been responsible for us landing in a big hole in the first place.
 
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I have a question that I kept forgetting to ask.

Last week I went to the Michigan Tech-Northwood game(I know :p). Michigan Tech has the ball on Northwood's 10 yard line. They run to the 3 yard line and get a first down. After the play Michigan Tech gets called for a dead ball late hit and is moved back to the 18. On third down Tech gets down to the 2 yard line. They are given a first down.

Shouldn't it have been forth down? Tech got a first down and then a penalty occurred. So shouldn't it have been First and Goal from the 18? Please tell me why I'm wrong.:o
 
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Dirty said:
I have a question that I kept forgetting to ask.

Last week I went to the Michigan Tech-Northwood game(I know :p). Michigan Tech has the ball on Northwood's 10 yard line. They run to the 3 yard line and get a first down. After the play Michigan Tech gets called for a dead ball late hit and is moved back to the 18. On third down Tech gets down to the 2 yard line. They are given a first down.

Shouldn't it have been forth down? Tech got a first down and then a penalty occurred. So shouldn't it have been First and Goal from the 18? Please tell me why I'm wrong.:o
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ref got it right

order of operations:

result of play was a first down.
then they assessed the 15 yard personal foul bringing the ball back to the 18
it then becomes first and 10 from the 18 because the penalty happened on the third down play that resulted in the first down as opposed on the new set of downs
 
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gscott13 said:
ref got it right

order of operations:

result of play was a first down.
then they assessed the 15 yard personal foul bringing the ball back to the 18
it then becomes first and 10 from the 18 because the penalty happened on the third down play that resulted in the first down as opposed on the new set of downs
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But it was a dead ball foul. So shouldn't it have been First and Goal before the foul occurred? I'm sure I'm wrong, but it just seems like since it was a foul after the play was over it should have been First and Goal. Oh well.
 
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Dirty said:
But it was a dead ball foul. So shouldn't it have been First and Goal before the foul occurred? I'm sure I'm wrong, but it just seems like since it was a foul after the play was over it should have been First and Goal. Oh well.
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it is only treated that way because it was a dead ball foul and technically occurred between third and first down, i.e. didn't happen on 3rd down, didn't happen on 1st, so it is simply a yardage penalty with no impact on down and distance... it's treated like a penalty on a kickoff. they mark ten yards off for a hold on a kickoff return, but don't make the offense start the series with 1st and 20.
 
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