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College Basketball ver Do Wedzenia Krzyzewski

Proud2baLaker said:
I had also heard that the tickets were purchased at a discounted price because of the claim of Boys and Girls Club. That probably increased the friction quite a bit too.
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I had heard that also, but anyone that purchases 200 tickets is likely getting a significant discount over the walkup price for a single ticket. I don't feel that they got an additional discount. Just that as this story has churned, word got out that the tickets were say, $18 each instead of $20 and people just assumed it was because of some grand conspiracy. In fact, the Krush are a registered Non-Profit, so if there is a discount available, they would be entitled to it if they just said who they were.
 
Georgetown, 'Nova, an Marquette came to mind immediately. The first 2 were Big East conference(top b-ball conf up here back in the day)and I made a bissel gelt on Marquette when they won. HC took a little while but every once in awhile it's mentioned up here when tourney time rolls around and it clicked in.
 
And even then, all it takes is one or two players to have a spectacularly hot night while one or two others study for their Bricklaying 205 class for that to blow up in the Big School's faces.
 
Teams definitely throw a few of those on the schedule each year, but I don’t think that’s the case with the Big 12. They have 7 of the top 16 in KenPom strength of schedule and 8 of 21.
 
Kansas - 2022 Champ
Baylor - 2021 Champ
Covid - 2020
Texas Tech - 2019 Lost Champ in OT
6 out of the 10 teams are ranked in the AP Top 25 this year.
College hoops version of the SEC football conf.
 
SonofSouthie said:
Kansas - 2022 Champ
Baylor - 2021 Champ
Covid - 2020
Texas Tech - 2019 Lost Champ in OT
6 out of the 10 teams are ranked in the AP Top 25 this year.
College hoops version of the SEC football conf.
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I have a friend who is a Purdue fan and by extension is constantly trying to equate Big 10 basketball to SEC football. He ignores that most years, the 8 or 9 teams the big 10 gets in the tourney bow out the first weekend and they are lucky if they get someone to the final 4. I also love to point out that the last Big 10 champion happened before most current big 10 players were even born (2000). Though they are doing better than the pac-12 in that department as their last one was 1997.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
Teams definitely throw a few of those on the schedule each year, but I don’t think that’s the case with the Big 12. They have 7 of the top 16 in KenPom strength of schedule and 8 of 21.
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The Big 12 has been rugged this year, and they figure to have a bunch of teams get to the Sweet 16. Will the champion come from there? I'm not convinced. Houston is really good. My money is actually on Alabama. They've played great every time I've watched them, and even though the SEC may not be the toughest schedule, Alabama has played and had decent success against Mich. St., UNC, UConn, Houston, Memphis and Gonzaga.

I also really like the way UCLA and Arizona play.
 
Proud2baLaker said:
I have a friend who is a Purdue fan and by extension is constantly trying to equate Big 10 basketball to SEC football. He ignores that most years, the 8 or 9 teams the big 10 gets in the tourney bow out the first weekend and they are lucky if they get someone to the final 4. I also love to point out that the last Big 10 champion happened before most current big 10 players were even born (2000). Though they are doing better than the pac-12 in that department as their last one was 1997.
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Until the tournaments post-Covid, and now that the Big 12 is more than just Kansas+9 (and now 11), I would say your friend was right. Maybe not SEC football level since that’s usually one team way above the rest, but I would say they were the deepest conference. The conference just has a problem winning that sixth game. From 2001-2019 the conference had 24 more wins than expected by seed, double the next best conference (though MSU alone probably makes up a chunk of that) and seven appearances in the national title game.

But 2005 Illinois couldn’t finish their run against UNC. 2009 MSU ran into what was probably the best NCAA team of this century. 2013 Michigan now has a loss to a vacated Louisville title. Wisconsin was winning with minutes remaining against Duke.

By conference, national title participants since 2001 have been:
ACC: UNC (5) Duke (3), Virginia, Maryland, Louisville (vacated), Georgia Tech, Syracuse
AAC: UConn
Big 12: Kansas (4), Baylor, Texas Tech
Big Ten: Michigan (2), Michigan State, Indiana, Illinois, Ohio State, Wisconsin
Big East: UConn (2), Villanova (2),
CUSA: Memphis
Horizon: Butler (2)
SEC: Kentucky (2), Florida (2)
Pax 12: Arizona, UCLA
WCC: Gonzaga (2)

When you take into account that the ACC and Big 12 have largely been anchored by those three blue bloods, the Big Ten comes out as the “deepest” conference. Maryland, Cuse, and GT were all in consecutive years in the early 2000s, so post 2004, given Louisville’s vacated title, it’s only Virginia’s recent title that has kept the ACC from being all Duke and UNC. I didn’t realize Kentucky has only had two appearances until now.

Interestingly enough MSU has the last mens basketball title and mens hockey title for a Big Ten school.
 
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