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Colgate 2022-23

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MarkEagleUSA said:
You do realize that each league has the ability to choose their AQ, right? Many, myself included, feel that the regular season champ should get the AQ as a reward for the entire body of their seasons work. However, I think the leagues all feel that a wild card winner in the tournament is good for the sport. Colgate was the ECAC wild card this season and their win in Placid allowed 4 teams into the tourney.
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I completely agree that -if an AQ is going to be awarded- it should be on the basis of the RS.

Why even play a RS in the first place, if all that matters is the silly conference tournament?

There I go again. Sorry. But even D-1 hockey is a backwater industry. Fielding AQ sacrificial lambs for dumb reasons won't grow the sport.

That sort of "logic" just makes the whole calculus look, well, as misguided as it is.
 
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iowabasedtraveler said:
Fishman, no problem as far as I am concerned. I have posted on other threads, then got up in the middle of the night and deleted them. Alcohol was usually what I blamed for my lack of tact (not lack of sleep). he he he

I also follow short-track auto racing, where we have ‘provisionals.’ I don’t mind auto-bids nor provisionals, as fans of all sanctions and all conferences deserve representation in the ‘feature event.’

I leave Monday for Amtrak’s AutoTrain to Florida for the Frozen Four, which will be my 26th since 1993. I will be cheering for Minnesota and Quinnipiac (not so much as the ECAC rep as much as it is the opponent of my much-disliked Michigan… since ‘96 in Cincinnati), but I fully expect the NCAA title game to be a rematch of the Big Ten tournament title game.
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I've been to many arenas, I love travelling on Amtrak (usually), but where do you get the stamina? :P

Having said that, enjoy the FF, it's a very good field.

Anyone can win that thing, but I tend to lean towards The Q.

Just my gut.
 
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I remember when the season winner and the ECAC tourney both got into the NCAA tourney. Tom did you get my message ?
 
Shabby, got your message. Thanks.
I am glad that you are doing well.
I am excited about Tampa and the Frozen Four.
But, when its over, I will be ready to start seeing who Colgate’s non-conference opponents will be for next season. Most of our reciprocal agreements should be concluded, so we should see some new opponents. And I personally hope that a couple of them are other NCAA tournament teams from this year. We will need to get right back on the horse.
 
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From the 'More Questions than it Answers' Department...

Josh Hewitt on the Big Ten Hockey Facebook page posted a graphic of expenditures of NCAA D-1 MIH programs.

Here are a couple...

1., North Dakota, $5,453,864,
2., Minnesota, $5,269,203,
3., Notre Dame, $5,198,263
4., Michigan, $4,464,256,
5., Boston College, $4,360,627,

21., Quinnipiac, $3,029,101,
23., Clarkson, $2,630,662,
25., RPI, $2,563,477,
27., Saint Lawrence, $2,547,264,
31., Colgate, $2,423,063,
38., Yale, $2,073,478,
41., Cornell, $1,990,819,
51., Harvard, $1,374,610,
52., Brown, $1,363,881,
53., Dartmouth, $1,353,890,
56., Princeton, $1,133,425,
57., Union, $1,049,322.

From me, "I see 57 programs listed. What was the last year that NCAA had 57 men's D-1 ice hockey programs? If it is more current than that, what programs are not included (and why)? More specifically, what year does it supposedly represent? And what exactly goes into those numbers? Thanks."

From Josh, "It’s all the schools that have the records for expenses for the Men’s hockey program available and includes all expenditures for the program. Salaries, rink maintenance, travel, etc….
GopherPuckLive periodically puts together an article to compare where Minnesota is compared to the rest of college hockey. Here is an article from 2018 as an example with additional info."

"https://gopherpucklive.com/minnesota-ranks-second-for.../

"The data I posted above is for this season. I don’t know if he is going to put together an article with further breakdown or not, but you should probably be able to find the data for your program in public records."

While I still question a lot about the specifics of this ranking, it probably does fairly accurately show the basic differences between the expenditures of the Big Ten (and other) conference programs and those of the ECAC Hockey conference.
 
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iowabasedtraveler said:
And what exactly goes into those numbers? Thanks."
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Some answers from Josh and GopherPuckLive (GPL):
“FYI expenses include guarantees, athletically related student aid, contract services, equipment, fundraising activities, operating expenses, promotional activities, recruiting expenses, salaries/benefits, supplies, travel & any other expenses attributable to athletic activities.”
 
iowabasedtraveler said:
From the 'More Questions than it Answers' Department...

Josh Hewitt on the Big Ten Hockey Facebook page posted a graphic of expenditures of NCAA D-1 MIH programs.

Here are a couple...

1., North Dakota, $5,453,864,
2., Minnesota, $5,269,203,
3., Notre Dame, $5,198,263
4., Michigan, $4,464,256,
5., Boston College, $4,360,627,

21., Quinnipiac, $3,029,101,
23., Clarkson, $2,630,662,
25., RPI, $2,563,477,
27., Saint Lawrence, $2,547,264,
31., Colgate, $2,423,063,
38., Yale, $2,073,478,
41., Cornell, $1,990,819,
51., Harvard, $1,374,610,
52., Brown, $1,363,881,
53., Dartmouth, $1,353,890,
56., Princeton, $1,133,425,
57., Union, $1,049,322.

From me, "I see 57 programs listed. What was the last year that NCAA had 57 men's D-1 ice hockey programs? If it is more current than that, what programs are not included (and why)? More specifically, what year does it supposedly represent? And what exactly goes into those numbers? Thanks."

From Josh, "It’s all the schools that have the records for expenses for the Men’s hockey program available and includes all expenditures for the program. Salaries, rink maintenance, travel, etc….
GopherPuckLive periodically puts together an article to compare where Minnesota is compared to the rest of college hockey. Here is an article from 2018 as an example with additional info."

"https://gopherpucklive.com/minnesota-ranks-second-for.../

"The data I posted above is for this season. I don’t know if he is going to put together an article with further breakdown or not, but you should probably be able to find the data for your program in public records."

While I still question a lot about the specifics of this ranking, it probably does fairly accurately show the basic differences between the expenditures of the Big Ten (and other) conference programs and those of the ECAC Hockey conference.
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Expenditures is one thing, but how about revenue and NOI?
 
iowabasedtraveler said:
From the 'More Questions than it Answers' Department...

Josh Hewitt on the Big Ten Hockey Facebook page posted a graphic of expenditures of NCAA D-1 MIH programs.

Here are a couple...

1., North Dakota, $5,453,864,
2., Minnesota, $5,269,203,
3., Notre Dame, $5,198,263
4., Michigan, $4,464,256,
5., Boston College, $4,360,627,

21., Quinnipiac, $3,029,101,
23., Clarkson, $2,630,662,
25., RPI, $2,563,477,
27., Saint Lawrence, $2,547,264,
31., Colgate, $2,423,063,
38., Yale, $2,073,478,
41., Cornell, $1,990,819,
51., Harvard, $1,374,610,
52., Brown, $1,363,881,
53., Dartmouth, $1,353,890,
56., Princeton, $1,133,425,
57., Union, $1,049,322.

From me, "I see 57 programs listed. What was the last year that NCAA had 57 men's D-1 ice hockey programs? If it is more current than that, what programs are not included (and why)? More specifically, what year does it supposedly represent? And what exactly goes into those numbers? Thanks."

From Josh, "It’s all the schools that have the records for expenses for the Men’s hockey program available and includes all expenditures for the program. Salaries, rink maintenance, travel, etc….
GopherPuckLive periodically puts together an article to compare where Minnesota is compared to the rest of college hockey. Here is an article from 2018 as an example with additional info."

"https://gopherpucklive.com/minnesota-ranks-second-for.../

"The data I posted above is for this season. I don’t know if he is going to put together an article with further breakdown or not, but you should probably be able to find the data for your program in public records."

While I still question a lot about the specifics of this ranking, it probably does fairly accurately show the basic differences between the expenditures of the Big Ten (and other) conference programs and those of the ECAC Hockey conference.
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Great find Iowa. I'm going share it on the RPI and credit you for unearthing it... safe travels to Tampa. Wish I was headed there !
 
Thanks, CU13 and Wicked. I am excited. Clarkson Doug arrives this afternoon from Ogdensburg, N.Y., and we will drive to Lorton, Va., this evening. Tomorrow, lunch with a college friend, then we board the Amtrak AutoTrain. We arrive in Sanford, Fla., Wednesday morning and will have lunch with a racing friend. Then on to Tampa, meeting Dartmouth Doug and picking up Alaska Mike at the airport. That last one is a Minnesota graduate. So, I will be cheering on Minnesota and Michigan’s opponent (Quinnipiac), while I fully expect Saturday’s national championship game will be a rematch of the Big Ten title game.

P.S. - Each year I get two custom t-shirts made to wear at the Frozen Four, with different messages on each side. Yesterday I picked up this year’s shirts and they look great. Back side of Saturday’s shirt: “
”THANKS
DON VAUGHAN
FOR 30 YEARS
OF COACHING
COLGATE.”
 
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iowabasedtraveler said:
I will be ready to start seeing who Colgate’s non-conference opponents will be for next season. Most of our reciprocal agreements should be concluded, so we should see some new opponents. And I personally hope that a couple of them are other NCAA tournament teams from this year. We will need to get right back on the horse.
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I have been trying to piece together Colgate's non-conference schedule for next season, based on our OOC history and what games have not yet been reciprocated.

Unreciprocated games from 2022-23:
  • Maine (away x2)
  • Niagara (home x2)
Unreciprocated games from 2021-22:
  • UConn (home x1)
Unreciprocated games from 2019-20:
  • Boston College (away x1)
  • Providence (home x1)
  • Ferris State (home x1)
And as an added bonus, the original non-conference schedule from the 2020-21 season, before a global pandemic disrupted things:
  • UConn (home x1) identified above
  • Northern Michigan (away x2) played in 2021-22
  • Providence (home x1) identified above
  • Merrimack (home x2) played in 2021-22
  • Catamount Cup (2 games)
  • Notre Dame (away x2)
  • Boston College (away x1) identified above
  • Canisius (home x1)
Source: a Google Docs spreadsheet which can be found in the 2023-24 schedules thread.

Nothing is official yet, but I have identified up to 13 OOC games for next season. Obviously, our limit is 12 games out of conference, so not everything listed above will happen next season.
 
Alex Young is a junior......Colton Young is a senior and I, too, really hope he stays for his fifth year!!!!!
 
NO!!!!!!!! It’s true - he has signed and is playing with the Greenville Swamp Rabbits :(!! Happy for him, but sad for us. Josh McKechney is also on that team.
 
Bummer....must be ECHL, good luck to him going forward ! Griffin Lunn and Tyler Penner are there also.
 
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Tonight’s national championship game:

PWR#1 Minnesota vs. PWR#2 Quinnipiac.
#1 in the West vs. #1 in the East.
#1 Offense in the USA vs. #1 Defense in the USA.

Should be a great game tonight.

Last night’s t-shirt was a hit (especially with UConn and Michigan fans)…

Front:

COLGATE BEAT
QUINNIPIAC
2 OUT OF 3
IN 2022-2023

and Back:

COLGATE FAN
WHO BOUGHT
TAMPA TICKETS
AFTER FIRST PERIOD
OF MICHIGAN GAME
 
iowabasedtraveler said:
Tonight’s national championship game:

Last night’s t-shirt was a hit (especially with UConn and Michigan fans)…
Front:
COLGATE BEAT
QUINNIPIAC
2 OUT OF 3
IN 2022-2023
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Good point IBT. Not a bad season for your beloved Colgate, being the only team to win the season matchup with the National Champions. Congrats to QU for a remarkable season and well-deserved championship.
 
Quasi, agreed… congratulations to Quinnipiac for winning the sport’s national championship. It was an incredible defensive battle, whereby the #1 defensive team limited the #1 offensive team to just 15 SOG. Smothered another one. And I am personally happy for Yanniv Perets, who I think mistakenly gets overlooked on the national level.
 
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