CCHA teams will join WCHA

[Priceless]

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And I doubt the BTN is "salivating" over college hockey.

BTN wants to be a major player in the future. Their college football coverage is their bread and butter from September to January...but after that? They want a sport to pick up the Jan-spring lull. College hockey provides that.

 

[Biddco]

Absolutely. College basketball fills primetime slots Monday through Thursday, and fills spots throughout the day Saturday and on Sunday evenings. College hockey provides programming for the two least watched time slots for a network, Friday and Saturday nights. So while it'll be nice to have, the value of basketball to a TV network FAR exceeds that of hockey.

Plus, they need programming for Mondays and Tuesdays. So enjoy being able to roadtrip less B1G hockey fans!!!!!!!!

 

[Neil Diamond]

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Like I said, I'm only repeating what I heard. I have no doubt you know more about the situation than someone involved with the BTN.

 

[Neil Diamond]

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Not what you said

Big difference between saying the BTN needs college hockey to fill air time on a Friday night, and that '"they want a sport to pick up the Jan-spring lull. College hockey provides that" and are "salivating" over it.

Sorry, Rico

 

[Priceless]

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Plus, they need programming for Mondays and Tuesdays. So enjoy being able to roadtrip less B1G hockey fans!!!!!!!!

Looking at last years hoops schedule from Jan-March, the BTN really only needs programming on Friday and Tuesday. Between men's and women's hoops the other days are covered. But I'm sure the BTN will replace a basketball game that will be viewed nationally by 100-200K people for a hockey game that might be viewed nationally by 10K people. That's just good business.

 

[Pump It Up]

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But I'm sure the BTN will replace a basketball game that will be viewed nationally by 100-200K people for a hockey game that might be viewed nationally by 10K people. That's just good business.

Makes sense, I like it.

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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Back to the W/CCHA: Are these schools content to lose their vote at the D-1 meetings? Are they going to continue to hope that they can find a D-I school out of nowhere? Or do they hope that the NCAA can finally classify the hockey championship as a "National Collegiate Championship" and just finally accept the fact that such a large number of D-I hockey programs are from D-II schools?

 

[bronconick]

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Back to the W/CCHA: Are these schools content to lose their vote at the D-1 meetings? Are they going to continue to hope that they can find a D-I school out of nowhere? Or do they hope that the NCAA can finally classify the hockey championship as a "National Collegiate Championship" and just finally accept the fact that such a large number of D-I hockey programs are from D-II schools?

If they only need one, both Bowling Green and Western Michigan are D-1 schools, meaning they've still got about three weeks of outstanding invitations. If they need a majority, they were screwed from the outset.

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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If they only need one, both Bowling Green and Western Michigan are D-1 schools, meaning they've still got about three weeks of outstanding invitations. If they need a majority, they were screwed from the outset.

Let's see if I'm interpreting this correctly:

• The W/CCHA is likely to really, really want either BGSU or WMU to stick around with them.
• Both of those two schools probably have a preference to stick with Miami and go to the NCHC.
• The NCHC might not like that, although Miami does have the "We're the sixth school, you need six for an autobid. Appease us" bargaining chip, if they think its in their best interest to do use it.

 

[Priceless]

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Let's see if I'm interpreting this correctly:

• The W/CCHA is likely to really, really want either BGSU or WMU to stick around with them.
• Both of those two schools probably have a preference to stick with Miami and go to the NCHC.
• The NCHC might not like that, although Miami does have the "We're the sixth school, you need six for an autobid. Appease us" bargaining chip, if they think its in their best interest to do use it.

Why does Miami want either WMU or BGSU to join them in the LTHC?

 

[MUhawks628]

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Why does Miami want either WMU or BGSU to join them in the LTHC?

Miami has gone from supposedly blocking Western's invitation to the NCHC as a founding member (according to WMU fans), to insisting that the MAC schools are kept together due to some sense of mid-major solidarity, all in the span of two months. Message boards are great and logical places aren't they?

 

[UpNorthHockey]

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Has anybody seen the trash talk coming out of the Kzoo press about the WCHA offer?

http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2011/08/david_drew_column_wmu_hockey_m.html

"WMU has a chance to save a few travel dollars and enjoy quick and consistent success in the 2013-14 WCHA"
and
"The WCHA knows Western Michigan would be the prize of its league"

WMU's record.....in the CCHA.....doesn't justify that kind of hubris, despite the high paid coach.

http://www.ccha.com/the_ccha/ccha_alltime_finishes.aspx

Against WCHA teams that have had to play ND, CC, DU and UW multiple times each year, I don't think they'd be dominant. If they do end up in the new look WCHA, I predict they'll be middle of the pack. If they go NCHC, it'll be a long, tough haul.

 

[seawolffan]

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Ick. I know that the NCHC will be a great conference, but think of it this way. Wouldn't it be boring to play the same 6-7 conference opponents over and over again? You'd get tired of it after about a year right? That's my main worry with that conference, that it will be boring to see those same conference opponents over and over again.

 

[SiouxFanatic]

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Ick. I know that the NCHC will be a great conference, but think of it this way. Wouldn't it be boring to play the same 6-7 conference opponents over and over again? You'd get tired of it after about a year right? That's my main worry with that conference, that it will be boring to see those same conference opponents over and over again.

I really can't tell if this person is being serious with this post...

 

[bronconick]

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Has anybody seen the trash talk coming out of the Kzoo press about the WCHA offer?

http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2011/08/david_drew_column_wmu_hockey_m.html


"WMU has a chance to save a few travel dollars and enjoy quick and consistent success in the 2013-14 WCHA"
and
"The WCHA knows Western Michigan would be the prize of its league"

WMU's record.....in the CCHA.....doesn't justify that kind of hubris, despite the high paid coach.

http://www.ccha.com/the_ccha/ccha_alltime_finishes.aspx

Against WCHA teams that have had to play ND, CC, DU and UW multiple times each year, I don't think they'd be dominant. If they do end up in the new look WCHA, I predict they'll be middle of the pack. If they go NCHC, it'll be a long, tough haul.

You went through the effort of signing up and making your first post to point out that Mlive commenters are morons. Congratulations. For your next trick, could you find out why that stuff out in Lake Michigan past the beaches is wet?

 

[JohnsonsJerseys]

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You went through the effort of signing up and making your first post to point out that Mlive commenters are morons. Congratulations. For your next trick, could you find out why that stuff out in Lake Michigan past the beaches is wet?

Ok, I agree that may have been a bit negative for a first post and stating the obvious, but in general, engineers will leave those types of questions to those who attended big-box, cookie-cutter degree program schools where everyone gets in like UW, UM, Minn, MSU, etc. It lets them give answers from time to time and feel like they are part of the conversation too. "That's not a degree, that's a participation certificate..."

On other other hand, when your team puts out something like "Why Western" in the public domain, you're going to have to expect a certain amount of comments from the peanut gallery. Just because I put up a website titled "Why Ryan" doesn't make me any more appealing to Brooklyn Decker. Promoting the program does not necessarily make it more appealing to the NaCHo league. I'm not saying, I'm just saying...

Ryan J

 

[bigmrg74]

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Let's see if I'm interpreting this correctly:

• The W/CCHA is likely to really, really want either BGSU or WMU to stick around with them.
• Both of those two schools probably have a preference to stick with Miami and go to the NCHC.
• The NCHC might not like that, although Miami does have the "We're the sixth school, you need six for an autobid. Appease us" bargaining chip, if they think its in their best interest to do use it.

Why does Miami want either WMU or BGSU to join them in the LTHC?

Miami does get to sit next to them at MAC meetings for a long time, and hanging their hockey programs out to dry could make life difficult for Miami's other sports if there's a 2 school block that hates your athletic departments guts. Plus, 8 teams would be a more stable conference overall than a 6 team one, especially if the Irish don't join the NCHA.

 

[MUhawks628]

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Miami does get to sit next to them at MAC meetings for a long time, and hanging their hockey programs out to dry could make life difficult for Miami's other sports if there's a 2 school block that hates your athletic departments guts. Plus, 8 teams would be a more stable conference overall than a 6 team one, especially if the Irish don't join the NCHA.

Do Western's agressive marketing campaigns suggest that they would have done anything different had the roles been reversed and they were one ones holding a NCHC invite? If Western and Miami had been invited and BGSU on the outside do you think Western would have declined? Begrudging Miami would be a tad bit pathetic and hypocritical.

I would hope that WMU and BGSU's athletic departments are more mature and professional than blaming Miami for making the same move they are trying to/would have made. Not one of those schools were in a position in July to decline an invitation to that conference.

 

[BII]

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I can't wait for the season to start and the teams begin to play hockey and we have something real to talk about.

 

[bronconick]

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Let's see if I'm interpreting this correctly:

• The W/CCHA is likely to really, really want either BGSU or WMU to stick around with them.
• Both of those two schools probably have a preference to stick with Miami and go to the NCHC.
• The NCHC might not like that, although Miami does have the "We're the sixth school, you need six for an autobid. Appease us" bargaining chip, if they think its in their best interest to do use it.

Uh. Sure. I was just answering your question about division 1 schools. I didn't even know there were tiered groups for discussions in hockey based on whether you have X number of Division 1 schools in your conference.