CCHA teams will join WCHA

[Goon]

Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

I'm pretty sure this is all UND and DU's fault actually.

Yep, it's UND's fault.

 

[Goon]

Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

But its a new WCHA we live in. MN, UW, and UND won't be coming to your building for a conference matchup, nor will their fanbase, so schools shouldn't have to live by the old requirements. .

UND will be playing BSU every year in hockey, I would bank on it happening. College Hockey tonight had on Tom S during the Galen Nagel golf tourney.

 

[moose97]

Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

At least BSU got state funding. Mankato hasn't gotten any, and had to meet the WCHA requirements with all local funding.

I love this line out of Mankato... It seems that everyone down there wants everyone else in the state to feel bad for them because they were impatient. Honestly, no one said you couldn't ask the state for money for a D-I rink. BSU had been trying to build a rink for well over a decade with state funds before the Sanford Center got its funding. UMD had been trying for several years too. Mankato? Nope, they wanted their rink now, and said, "we're not waiting for the state to pony up the funds... We'll build it ourselves!" Now you want the rest of us to feel bad because Mankato is exactly like a 2 year old ("Can i have this toy mommy? No? Then I'll just take it! And **** the consequences!)?

Not to mention that now, you think, "Hey, lets go to the state and ask for renovation funds! Or, let's build a women's rink with state money!" Well guess what? The state knows you guys are impatient and will eventually pay for all that yourselves! Why waste money on something that will eventually be taken care of? You folks are silly...

 

[Huskiefan906]

Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

I still believe the NCHC will fail ultimately.

Notre Dame joining is a must or the issues begin 2 years before the conference ever starts up.

UMD, Miami, CC, and UNO will not achieve a consistent level of success and their fanbases will not adjust.

My only hope is that the recruits continue the strong regional traditions of college hockey and largely begin to ignore this group for their favorite teams growing up.

 

[Goon]

Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

I still believe the NCHC will fail ultimately.

Notre Dame joining is a must or the issues begin 2 years before the conference ever starts up.

UMD, Miami, CC, and UNO will not achieve a consistent level of success and their fanbases will not adjust.

My only hope is that the recruits continue the strong regional traditions of college hockey and largely begin to ignore this group for their favorite teams growing up.

So what are you basing this on?

 

[Huskiefan906]

Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

Goon, there will be no "National" interest in this league.

They need Notre Dame for legitimacy, and the first domino falls if they cannot get them.

Then, the demise of the league will be started when at least 2 of the potential futile four members Miami, UNO, UMD, or CC cannot achieve consistent success and look to move elsewhere as the excessive travel costs and loss of revenue due to an ambivalent fanbase due to the losing makes the move to this conference an unfortunate mistake for a couple of these schools.

If WMU or BG are added to gain members, then they may eke out a bit longer staying at at least 6 members, but they join the list of potential futile 6 in the conference.

 

[willythekid]

Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

Goon, there will be no "National" interest in this league.

They need Notre Dame for legitimacy, and the first domino falls if they cannot get them.

Then, the demise of the league will be started when at least 2 of the potential futile four members Miami, UNO, UMD, or CC cannot achieve consistent success and look to move elsewhere as the excessive travel costs and loss of revenue due to an ambivalent fanbase due to the losing makes the move to this conference an unfortunate mistake for a couple of these schools.

If WMU or BG are added to gain members, then they may eke out a bit longer staying at at least 6 members, but they join the list of potential futile 6 in the conference.

with this arguement the new wcha will fail as well then

 

[Goon]

Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

Goon, there will be no "National" interest in this league.

They need Notre Dame for legitimacy, and the first domino falls if they cannot get them.

Then, the demise of the league will be started when at least 2 of the potential futile four members Miami, UNO, UMD, or CC cannot achieve consistent success and look to move elsewhere as the excessive travel costs and loss of revenue due to an ambivalent fanbase due to the losing makes the move to this conference an unfortunate mistake for a couple of these schools.

If WMU or BG are added to gain members, then they may eke out a bit longer staying at at least 6 members, but they join the list of potential futile 6 in the conference.

Really! So we are to believe that the new WCHA have garner more national interest as the NCHC? I don't think so.

 

[Huskiefan906]

Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

I never said the WCHA will have more national interest....

The WCHA will survive as it always has - a regionally based league with a fanbase of localities.

Interest will be community based.

 

[SCSU Euro]

Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

UMD, Miami, CC, and UNO will not achieve a consistent level of success and their fanbases will not adjust.

What do they have to adjust to? tUMD and UNO aren't USED to success year in and year out. Even CC I wouldn't say has won consistently in the last decade... they've had some good teams, but they've been run of the mill in a number of years too.

 

[Goon]

Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

I never said the WCHA will have more national interest....

The WCHA will survive as it always has - a regionally based league with a fanbase of localities.

Interest will be community based.

Pretty sure that the NCHC will have that as well as national exposure.

 

[First Time Long Time]

Pretty sure that the NCHC will have that as well as national exposure.

What schools in the NCHC are a national draw?

 

[Goon]

Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

What schools in the NCHC are a national draw?

You're kidding right? UND, DU and Miami are all high profile programs. UNO is growing in status with the addition of Dean Blais as head coach and I don't think UMD is any slouch either Edit forgot C.C. but I stand by my point none the less.

 

[ronmexico]

Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

You're kidding right? UND, DU and Miami are all high profile programs. UNO is growing in status with the addition of Dean Blais as head coach and I don't think UMD is any slouch either.

So basically everyone but CC? Nice...

Serious question here... Where does the Broadmoor Trophy go? It would be EPIC if it follows CC since we have never won it!

 

[First Time Long Time]

You're kidding right? UND, DU and Miami are all high profile programs. UNO is growing in status with the addition of Dean Blais as head coach and I don't think UMD is any slouch either.

Hockey is a niche sport though, it doesn't draw ratings.
UND is "high profile" in hockey circles only, everyone else goes UND who?
Miami has a somewhat high profile because of football and even then people confuse them with Florida.
DU is about as known as UND is outside of hockey and UMD sorry is a slouch.
This isn't about what hockey fans will watch, it's about drawing casual fans, and no program in the NCHC has that ability.

 

[Goon]

Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

So basically everyone but CC? Nice...

Serious question here... Where does the Broadmoor Trophy go? It would be EPIC if it follows CC since we have never won it!

Sorry forgot C.C. the throphy is staying with the league. It was announced back in July at the first new conference.

 

[ronmexico]

Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

Sorry forgot C.C. the throphy is staying with the league. It was announced back in July at the first new conference.

Somehow I missed that. To me, it seems a bit odd that they would even want it.

 

[Goon]

Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

Hockey is a niche sport though, it doesn't draw ratings.
UND is "high profile" in hockey circles only, everyone else goes UND who?
Miami has a somewhat high profile because of football and even then people confuse them with Florida.
DU is about as known as UND is outside of hockey and UMD sorry is a slouch.
This isn't about what hockey fans will watch, it's about drawing casual fans, and no program in the NCHC has that ability.

So you say that the NCHC teams aren't big time schools and they are not high profile, you can't discount what UND and DU have done over the years both programs have 14 NCAA titles between them and without checking UMD (1 2011) and C.C.(50, 57) both have NCAA titles in division I hockey as well, what does that make the WCHA there are three schools that have NCAA titles, LSSU (88, 92, 94), NMU (91) and MTU (62, 65, 75)? Three teams in the new WCHA have 7 NCAA titles between three schools. The WCHA is going to be made up of mostly DII teams and the NCHC is going to be made up of teams in Division I schools except C.C. and Duluth... Miami is in the MAC, UND Big Sky Conference, UNO is in transition to the Summitt Conference, DU is in the WAC and UMD Division II and is a power house in Division II football.

 

[ronmexico]

Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

there are three schools that have NCAA titles, LSSU, NMU and MTU?

I'll bet BGSU joins up too...

 

[First Time Long Time]

So you say that the NCHC teams aren't big time schools and they are not high profile, UND and DU have 14 NCAA titles between them and without checking UMD and C.C. both have NCAA titles in division I hockey as well, what does that make the WCHA there are three schools that have NCAA titles, LSSU, NMU and MTU?

What part of outside hockey do you not get?
Hockey fans know St. Cloud too.
Hockey fans are going to watch regardless, that doesn't make you high profile.