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Cars: 2015
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Re: Cars: 2015
That's one way to do it.
I had a sort of graph that I drew up from websites that cross-referenced size of down payment, interest rate (and length of loan) vs total price of vehicle, which gave me various monthly payments. The salesperson saw that I had that info (not the actual numbers, just that I had a sheet) and realized that I was going to walk if I didn't like the numbers.
She was not a hard-seller at all, mind you, but that gave her the impression that I came totally prepared and did my research. She didn't try to mess around with me.
That's one way to do it.
I had a sort of graph that I drew up from websites that cross-referenced size of down payment, interest rate (and length of loan) vs total price of vehicle, which gave me various monthly payments. The salesperson saw that I had that info (not the actual numbers, just that I had a sheet) and realized that I was going to walk if I didn't like the numbers.
She was not a hard-seller at all, mind you, but that gave her the impression that I came totally prepared and did my research. She didn't try to mess around with me.
Twitch Boy
Defacing this tagline is a MAX foul
Re: Cars: 2015
This is the "four-square" worksheet car dealers use to rip you off and how to work around it:
https://consumerist.com/2007/03/30/...ff-with-the-four-square-heres-how-to-beat-it/
That's one way to do it.
I had a sort of graph that I drew up from websites that cross-referenced size of down payment, interest rate (and length of loan) vs total price of vehicle, which gave me various monthly payments. The salesperson saw that I had that info (not the actual numbers, just that I had a sheet) and realized that I was going to walk if I didn't like the numbers.
This is the "four-square" worksheet car dealers use to rip you off and how to work around it:
https://consumerist.com/2007/03/30/...ff-with-the-four-square-heres-how-to-beat-it/
Re: Cars: 2015
I had zero trade value, so that part was easy. Didn't let them know that; just said I was looking for a nice summer vehicle.
Total cost, mentioned that part earlier.
Let them know the numbers mattered with the loan. Simply put, if I didn't like them, I was walking. Had been scouting this model (various years) for a couple months, this was the leading one, so convince me to not look elsewhere.
Basically the only thing I was willing to change on the model I have was the color. If it wasn't yellow, it was going to be black or charcoal. Yes, I'm picky on color. They BRIEFLY mentioned the cherry red Camaro (that was also a slight upgrade in price) on the lot, and I immediately stopped that sorta talk. I was there to look at the yellow one, period.
I had zero trade value, so that part was easy. Didn't let them know that; just said I was looking for a nice summer vehicle.
Total cost, mentioned that part earlier.
Let them know the numbers mattered with the loan. Simply put, if I didn't like them, I was walking. Had been scouting this model (various years) for a couple months, this was the leading one, so convince me to not look elsewhere.
Basically the only thing I was willing to change on the model I have was the color. If it wasn't yellow, it was going to be black or charcoal. Yes, I'm picky on color. They BRIEFLY mentioned the cherry red Camaro (that was also a slight upgrade in price) on the lot, and I immediately stopped that sorta talk. I was there to look at the yellow one, period.
Re: Cars: 2015
My future FIL worked as a salesman for one of the local Cadillac dealerships; he told me that his line he used with customers was, "I promise, you pay more anywhere else!" He'd say it with a smile on his face and a chuckle in his voice, but he was completely serious. He was their top salesman for something like 15 years straight.
My future FIL worked as a salesman for one of the local Cadillac dealerships; he told me that his line he used with customers was, "I promise, you pay more anywhere else!" He'd say it with a smile on his face and a chuckle in his voice, but he was completely serious. He was their top salesman for something like 15 years straight.
Re: Cars: 2015
Not aware of any no-haggle dealerships here. I did get pre-approval for a pretty good rate from my credit union, so plan on using them rather than dealer financing. There were a few cars I test drove last time and didn't like - thinking I should try them again (VW Jetta and maybe one of the Hyundais). Uggggggggghgh. When is Amazon going to start selling cars?
Not aware of any no-haggle dealerships here. I did get pre-approval for a pretty good rate from my credit union, so plan on using them rather than dealer financing. There were a few cars I test drove last time and didn't like - thinking I should try them again (VW Jetta and maybe one of the Hyundais). Uggggggggghgh. When is Amazon going to start selling cars?
Re: Cars: 2015
Per my brother, mechanic for 22+ years now...don't touch the infamous German engineering. I was day-dreaming about an Audi TT, and he flat out said: You buy one, don't even bother to call me to look at it for maintenance. And this was before the big scandal.
Not aware of any no-haggle dealerships here. I did get pre-approval for a pretty good rate from my credit union, so plan on using them rather than dealer financing. There were a few cars I test drove last time and didn't like - thinking I should try them again (VW Jetta and maybe one of the Hyundais). Uggggggggghgh. When is Amazon going to start selling cars?
Per my brother, mechanic for 22+ years now...don't touch the infamous German engineering. I was day-dreaming about an Audi TT, and he flat out said: You buy one, don't even bother to call me to look at it for maintenance. And this was before the big scandal.
state of hockey
He fixes the cable?
Re: Cars: 2015
They're just set up differently, and mechanics here don't have as much experience with them. Makes them frustrating to work with. This combined with the increased cost of the parts scare most people off. If you get a good warranty and have a VW shop (no I do not mean dealership) nearby it isn't so bad. The mistake I made with mine was buying it in the first place. It was obviously tracked. It looked great, but the inner-workings were beat on pretty hard. I foolishly decided to ignore this and made the purchase.
They're just set up differently, and mechanics here don't have as much experience with them. Makes them frustrating to work with. This combined with the increased cost of the parts scare most people off. If you get a good warranty and have a VW shop (no I do not mean dealership) nearby it isn't so bad. The mistake I made with mine was buying it in the first place. It was obviously tracked. It looked great, but the inner-workings were beat on pretty hard. I foolishly decided to ignore this and made the purchase.
Twitch Boy
Defacing this tagline is a MAX foul
Re: Cars: 2015
Plus a lot of these companies are requiring their cars to be serviced by their own licensed mechanics and are using proprietary parts as a barrier to entry. You can't even change your own oil on a BMW these days, or even take it to Jiffy Lube. Gotta shell out $300 at the stealership for a BMW certified tech to pop the proprietary screws on the cover protecting the oil cap and do it for you.
Plus a lot of these companies are requiring their cars to be serviced by their own licensed mechanics and are using proprietary parts as a barrier to entry. You can't even change your own oil on a BMW these days, or even take it to Jiffy Lube. Gotta shell out $300 at the stealership for a BMW certified tech to pop the proprietary screws on the cover protecting the oil cap and do it for you.
Re: Cars: 2015
If that's the case with VW cars (and their companies)....
If I'm understanding it correctly, say my Audi is out of warranty, so it doesn't matter, I couldn't have my brother do stuff on his own time? I don't even know how that's enforceable....
If that's the case with VW cars (and their companies)....
If I'm understanding it correctly, say my Audi is out of warranty, so it doesn't matter, I couldn't have my brother do stuff on his own time? I don't even know how that's enforceable....
Re: Cars: 2015
Patents. Create unique screw driver heads, odd shaped connectors of various sizes, and then not license the patents. When they finally run out, the model will be old enough for the original owners to not have much care at that point.
Patents. Create unique screw driver heads, odd shaped connectors of various sizes, and then not license the patents. When they finally run out, the model will be old enough for the original owners to not have much care at that point.
hockeyplayer1015
Capt
I'm on my second, with zero issues outside of dieselgate. Loved the Tiguan, love my Touareg even more.
JF_Gophers
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ive been happy with my Hyundai 3+ years in.Not aware of any no-haggle dealerships here. I did get pre-approval for a pretty good rate from my credit union, so plan on using them rather than dealer financing. There were a few cars I test drove last time and didn't like - thinking I should try them again (VW Jetta and maybe one of the Hyundais). Uggggggggghgh. When is Amazon going to start selling cars?
My aunt works for a different car dealership ($$$$) in your area, but i dont think those are what you are looking for.
Berkshire BU Fan
New member
Re: Cars: 2015
Short wheelbase and FWD helps in the snow. I have a 2011 Ford Focus that gets 37 on the highway and 32 in town... with an automatic. Have fun with the Mini.
Short wheelbase and FWD helps in the snow. I have a 2011 Ford Focus that gets 37 on the highway and 32 in town... with an automatic. Have fun with the Mini.
bostonewe
Short/Round
Re: Cars: 2015
I've since sold the Mini. Driving a 2018 Civic Hatchback Sport. (Still stickshift though ).
I've since sold the Mini. Driving a 2018 Civic Hatchback Sport. (Still stickshift though ).
Twitch Boy
Defacing this tagline is a MAX foul
Re: Cars: 2015
Speaking of which, how is the Civic treating you?
I'm having ha-ha-only-serious thoughts of treating myself to something midrange sporty yet daily drivable in a couple years, and the Civic Type R would fit my bill (if I can restrain myself from puffing a 3-foot vape cloud and yelling at everyone nearby to smash that like, follow, and subscribe button like a boss every time I get out.)
The gut answer is wait a couple more years and score a used C7 Corvette, but the problem with that is the real world has things like speed bumps and potholes (my dad picked up a C5 and he's petrified to drive it due mostly to the above, and I can't say I blame him.)
Speaking of which, how is the Civic treating you?
I'm having ha-ha-only-serious thoughts of treating myself to something midrange sporty yet daily drivable in a couple years, and the Civic Type R would fit my bill (if I can restrain myself from puffing a 3-foot vape cloud and yelling at everyone nearby to smash that like, follow, and subscribe button like a boss every time I get out.)
The gut answer is wait a couple more years and score a used C7 Corvette, but the problem with that is the real world has things like speed bumps and potholes (my dad picked up a C5 and he's petrified to drive it due mostly to the above, and I can't say I blame him.)