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As a whole, this seems like it could total $1000+ year... That's a large chunk of change tacked on to an already inflated purchase price.
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Cars: 2015
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As a whole, this seems like it could total $1000+ year... That's a large chunk of change tacked on to an already inflated purchase price.
MichVandal
Well-known member
In theory, if you paid for the entire year. But it's on top of a $500/mo lease. Or more.
And then comparin that against a multi-hundred a month parking rent....
In the whole scheme of things, the people getting it will be very capable of dealing with the charges. If you are in a city, and $1000/year is the thing that breaks the camel's back... I suppose.
ericredaxe
Veteran
So browsing Subarus - evidently remote start is available (at least on some models) only through a smart phone app that is subscription based. Could be a dealbreaker for us on principle.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Just get an aftermarket one installed.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
My wife has similar subscription with Toyota, she loves it. Not sure how much it costs but not bad if you pay by the year. I doubt I'd pay for it
I have a 2014 Crosstrek (wouldn’t recommend one), but I have an aftermarket remote start sold by my local Subaru dealership. It’s limited by range, but there’s no subscription fee.
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
My partner has informed me that if I buy the necessary parts, she will do a lot of the work, including brakes, shocks, and struts.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Meant to post this last week.
We got upgraded and had a newish Kia Niro hybrid for the two weeks in Scotland. Very impressed with even a baseline trim. No one would confuse it for a Lexus or anything, but it wasn't bad overall, especially after seeing the MSRP. Maybe I'll have to keep Kia in my sights next time we're car shopping.
Anyways, the reason I wanted to post was because this was my first experience in a hybrid. We drove >1,000 miles and got 60 mpg. Through hill country, winding roads, plenty of stops. Insane. I would have gotten like 15 mpg in my MDX if I were lucky. I also really enjoyed the (adaptive??) regenerative braking when descending hills. You could use the flappy paddles to select how strong the regenerative braking force was and how much it would charge the battery. Felt nice adding range while coasting instead of just incinerating brake pads. There was a bit of sloppiness while doing minor adjustments when parking. Letting off the brake didn't let you really inch forward without jerking the car. Probably tuned better in higher end vehicles.
This has basically confirmed for me that I won't have anything but an EV, PEHV, or hybrid as our next vehicle. Was nice to be able to sit idle without the guilt of burning dinosaurs. The hybrid even on a Kia was such a *ahem* breath of fresh air. Just an excellent experience overall.
As an addendum to the review, I will also say this: After spending two weeks putting 90% of my brain power to driving safely on very small roads (literally a single lane w/ pull offs on about 25% of all miles traveled), right-hand drive, and sharing the road with trucks inches from your car at 50+ mph, and dodging sheep - switching back to driving my normal car was an absolute mindfuck and a bit terrifying. Spending all of that brain power to forget muscle memory and then switch back was a bit touchy. Found myself drifting to the wrong side of the lane on the highway without even thinking. The regen braking vs. coasting was such a different experience. ANd the looking left first when turning was something I had to think about for that first couple drives.
And my god, it should also be illegal to not have Apple or Android car play in cars. No more of these stupid proprietary and expensive nav systems. Just let google and apple handle it from here on out.
We got upgraded and had a newish Kia Niro hybrid for the two weeks in Scotland. Very impressed with even a baseline trim. No one would confuse it for a Lexus or anything, but it wasn't bad overall, especially after seeing the MSRP. Maybe I'll have to keep Kia in my sights next time we're car shopping.
Anyways, the reason I wanted to post was because this was my first experience in a hybrid. We drove >1,000 miles and got 60 mpg. Through hill country, winding roads, plenty of stops. Insane. I would have gotten like 15 mpg in my MDX if I were lucky. I also really enjoyed the (adaptive??) regenerative braking when descending hills. You could use the flappy paddles to select how strong the regenerative braking force was and how much it would charge the battery. Felt nice adding range while coasting instead of just incinerating brake pads. There was a bit of sloppiness while doing minor adjustments when parking. Letting off the brake didn't let you really inch forward without jerking the car. Probably tuned better in higher end vehicles.
This has basically confirmed for me that I won't have anything but an EV, PEHV, or hybrid as our next vehicle. Was nice to be able to sit idle without the guilt of burning dinosaurs. The hybrid even on a Kia was such a *ahem* breath of fresh air. Just an excellent experience overall.
As an addendum to the review, I will also say this: After spending two weeks putting 90% of my brain power to driving safely on very small roads (literally a single lane w/ pull offs on about 25% of all miles traveled), right-hand drive, and sharing the road with trucks inches from your car at 50+ mph, and dodging sheep - switching back to driving my normal car was an absolute mindfuck and a bit terrifying. Spending all of that brain power to forget muscle memory and then switch back was a bit touchy. Found myself drifting to the wrong side of the lane on the highway without even thinking. The regen braking vs. coasting was such a different experience. ANd the looking left first when turning was something I had to think about for that first couple drives.
And my god, it should also be illegal to not have Apple or Android car play in cars. No more of these stupid proprietary and expensive nav systems. Just let google and apple handle it from here on out.
MichVandal
Well-known member
If my company made a small hybrid SUV that could tow 3500lb, I would totally get it.... I just don't want a truck.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
I have a Toyota Rav4 Prime (their PHEV) on order and I can't wait to get it. I'm expecting February or so, so not soon.
I'm fortunate to have more flexibility financially, and due to that I could not see a reason to buy a new ICE at all.
MichVandal
Well-known member
Uh, a PHEV has an ICE in it. The whole thing about the numbers for electrification is more about the increase in hybrids rather than the elimination of ICEs.
That being said, if F made a small SUV hybrid that can tow 3500lb, we'd totally get it.
It has an ICE like a hybrid has an ICE, but I should have clarified in that I mean I can't imagine buying - for my uses - an exclusively ICE vehicle.
MichVandal
Well-known member
The reason I corrected you is that it's a pretty common mis-conception about so many companies declaring that they are going full electric. Most of them juse mean that they are not making any ICE exclusive vehicles anymore. AND the EV requirements really mean *EV- BEV, PHEV, HEV, MHEV.... Even a alternator/motor set up that's a couple of HP is included into EV's.
I see what you're saying. Regardless, moving to an "electrified' propulsion system is still a big step in the right direction.
I hope that by the time of my next new car purchase we will have customer swappable batteries for easier refueling times.
I'm back after a 6 month vacation from USCHO, so I'm not digging through many old posts.
Just wondering how many of you have made the switch to fully electric vehicles. We're planning on swapping out one of our ICE vehicles for an EV and I currently have reservations for the Rivian R1S and the Volvo EX90. The volvo is supposed to be available for configuration fall 2023 and delivery early 2024, and I have no idea for the R1S but I think it would be unlikely that I'm at the front of the line before 2024, so either way I have some time.
I feel like the EX90 is probably a more practical choice because its a little less expensive than the R1S, there is a local dealership (currently the closest Rivian Service Center for me is Chelsea Mass, so almost 4.5 hours away), and Rivian still has a real possibility of going out of business during the useful life of the car. I think the Rivian has a bigger cool factor though!
Trying to plan ahead. I need to have my electrical service upgrade. It's been very difficult to find an electrician that's willing to even take on future work now (I'm not in a rush since I won't have an EV for over a year). I did find someone that can come quote in a few weeks (the company that was subcontracted out to do the electrical work for my solar install) but I'd like to be able to get multiple quotes...
In addition to getting my service upgrade, I was also going to install the charger in my garage at the same time, but the R1S charges in the front and the EX90 charges in the rear, so I'm trying to figure out a placement that would give me the most flexibility since I'm not sure what I'm going to get for a vehicle yet (it could end up being neither of the two I have reservations for). I _think_ installing between my two garage doors would let me reach either front or rear charging ports depending on which bay the car was parked in (car might need to be parked so its charging port is facing the middle of the garage).
Anyone have two EVs? Did you install two chargers, or do you take turns? My wife and I both work from home, so we could definitely make do having to share a single charger if we go to two EVs.
Just wondering what people's experiences are, and if you have any advice for me.
Just wondering how many of you have made the switch to fully electric vehicles. We're planning on swapping out one of our ICE vehicles for an EV and I currently have reservations for the Rivian R1S and the Volvo EX90. The volvo is supposed to be available for configuration fall 2023 and delivery early 2024, and I have no idea for the R1S but I think it would be unlikely that I'm at the front of the line before 2024, so either way I have some time.
I feel like the EX90 is probably a more practical choice because its a little less expensive than the R1S, there is a local dealership (currently the closest Rivian Service Center for me is Chelsea Mass, so almost 4.5 hours away), and Rivian still has a real possibility of going out of business during the useful life of the car. I think the Rivian has a bigger cool factor though!
Trying to plan ahead. I need to have my electrical service upgrade. It's been very difficult to find an electrician that's willing to even take on future work now (I'm not in a rush since I won't have an EV for over a year). I did find someone that can come quote in a few weeks (the company that was subcontracted out to do the electrical work for my solar install) but I'd like to be able to get multiple quotes...
In addition to getting my service upgrade, I was also going to install the charger in my garage at the same time, but the R1S charges in the front and the EX90 charges in the rear, so I'm trying to figure out a placement that would give me the most flexibility since I'm not sure what I'm going to get for a vehicle yet (it could end up being neither of the two I have reservations for). I _think_ installing between my two garage doors would let me reach either front or rear charging ports depending on which bay the car was parked in (car might need to be parked so its charging port is facing the middle of the garage).
Anyone have two EVs? Did you install two chargers, or do you take turns? My wife and I both work from home, so we could definitely make do having to share a single charger if we go to two EVs.
Just wondering what people's experiences are, and if you have any advice for me.
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MichVandal
Well-known member
EV cars are one thing, but unless you plan on using the EV pickup as just another car, they are farther from prime time than just basic moving people.
RV people are seeing the data, and are noticing the limitations.
RV people are seeing the data, and are noticing the limitations.
I'm not looking at EV pickups. The Rivian R1S is a 7 passenger SUV. The R1T is the pickup.
I do have a friend with a Ford Lightening, and I think EV trucks are fine for the typical consumer (someone not hauling heavy loads all the time)
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A coworker has a side hustle where he sells demo cars, and has become a big fan of the Volvo EV/PHEV/HEV vehicles. Since the one you're looking at isn't released he wouldn't have an opinion on it specifically, but he went from "Volvo sucks" to "whoa, Volva makes great cars" in a hurry.
I'm still waiting for my Toyota Rav4 Prime. I ordered in late August so I'm still within the 4-6 month window, and the dealership actually offered a different trim model than the one I ordered (the SE version had come in but I'm holding out for the XSE/premium package).
I'm still waiting for my Toyota Rav4 Prime. I ordered in late August so I'm still within the 4-6 month window, and the dealership actually offered a different trim model than the one I ordered (the SE version had come in but I'm holding out for the XSE/premium package).