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Campaign 2016 - Snow White and the 7 dwarfs.

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I think he was bored. He's made his money and he's been doing that TV show for awhile. What's left? Senate or even governor is too low ball for him. Why not run for President. IMHO he's a lot further along then he ever expected, but why not run with it? I'm sure he's not concerned about what would happen if he actually won. There's a lot of billionaires out there, but if he gets the nomination, he's one upped Gates, Buffett, the Kochs, etc.

Would his first act be to fire the ACA or ISIS?
 
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Would his first act be to fire the ACA or ISIS?


You know, he's a bit tough to pin down. After rightfully blasting the p! ss out of Bush and his kid brother over Iraq, I'm not so sure he commits troops to Syria. I think we'd get a lot of bluster and then when the locals routed ISIS (Kurds or the Iraqis in Ramadi recently) he'd call a press conference taking credit for it!
 
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Just quit and save us the prolonged death watch.
More Jeb Bush ad cancellations: Ad buy in NH between 1/5-1/18 cut by $659k, to $1.02m.
 
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Meanwhile, in Bernie's backyard...

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a41054/donald-trump-vermont-preview/

I have to ask a serious question here. A lot of people base Sanders general election viability on his ability to draw large crowds, which is an entirely reasonable basis to use. However, is it somewhat worrisome that Donald Trump is drawing the same or larger crowds, and in Sanders hometown? Especially as it relates to a general election matchup between these two?
 
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I don't watch television. What is Fox News doing with the Trump phenomenon?
 
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I don't watch television. What is Fox News doing with the Trump phenomenon?

It's on in my workplace. Every time I pass the TV they are doing another OBAMA OUTRAGE!!!!11! story.

I did see an interesting piece about the number of times each candidate has been on each talk show. Trump was leading overall but as opposed to the other shows that he has appeared 6 or 8 times on, on Fox he has only been on twice. I guess Rupert in not his friend.

But they probably think that since they've only got another year to play pin the tail on the negro they better move all their old inventory of conspiracy pieces to make room in the warehouse for Hillary Outrage.
 
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Meanwhile, in Bernie's backyard...

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a41054/donald-trump-vermont-preview/

I have to ask a serious question here. A lot of people base Sanders general election viability on his ability to draw large crowds, which is an entirely reasonable basis to use. However, is it somewhat worrisome that Donald Trump is drawing the same or larger crowds, and in Sanders hometown? Especially as it relates to a general election matchup between these two?

It's too early to say anything definitive about general election viability, but I think those who are making those comparisons right now are using heat polling which shows Bernie doing better than Hillary against each possible GOP challenger (including Trump). The argument on crowd, though, would be that viability relates to turnout which is indicated by large crowd, so you'd rather oppose a candidate who draws large crowds with another who draws large crowds than one who draws flies. I don't really buy this argument, but there's nothing inconsistent about it.
 
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Even the Bush fortune has to draw the line somewhere when the chips are down.

There was a piece a few days ago that said Jeb thinks Dubya is the most popular ex-president. That family may just live in a yes man bubble and have no idea they are reviled by half the country and kinda awkwardly ignored by the other half.
 
Meanwhile, in Bernie's backyard...

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a41054/donald-trump-vermont-preview/

I have to ask a serious question here. A lot of people base Sanders general election viability on his ability to draw large crowds, which is an entirely reasonable basis to use. However, is it somewhat worrisome that Donald Trump is drawing the same or larger crowds, and in Sanders hometown? Especially as it relates to a general election matchup between these two?

Both campaigns tap into the same sentiment that we are being ill served by our elected leaders and that there needs to be a fundamental change in the way the government dors business. B & T would do it differently, and I question how much would actually get done given that most of the Congre$$ and media are already bought.
 
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My worry as someone more aligned with Sanders than Trump is that if crowd size is in fact the biggest determinant of electoral success, we're in deep doo doo. I don't picture Sanders being able to complete with Trump's celebrity.
 
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My worry as someone more aligned with Sanders than Trump is that if crowd size is in fact the biggest determinant of electoral success, we're in deep doo doo. I don't picture Sanders being able to complete with Trump's celebrity.

Well, if Bernie actually wins the nomination that will be proof that Hillary would have even been worse -- res ipsa loquitur.

As a Bernie supporter I see no way Bernie overtakes Hillary short of Hillary having a serious health issue, and even then I think the establishment would whip out another candidate to make sure the Wall Street fix was still in. I don't think it's going to be an issue.

A Bernie-Trump race would however be very interesting, since the grassroots from both sides would be represented. Like the all-ECAC final a few years ago, it would guarantee the bad guys had already lost.
 
Meanwhile, in Bernie's backyard...

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a41054/donald-trump-vermont-preview/

I have to ask a serious question here. A lot of people base Sanders general election viability on his ability to draw large crowds, which is an entirely reasonable basis to use. However, is it somewhat worrisome that Donald Trump is drawing the same or larger crowds, and in Sanders hometown? Especially as it relates to a general election matchup between these two?

Vermont, despite its liberal reputation, has a significant population of tea bagger rednecks.
 
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There was a piece a few days ago that said Jeb thinks Dubya is the most popular ex-president. That family may just live in a yes man bubble and have no idea they are reviled by half the country and kinda awkwardly ignored by the other half.

He technically said most popular among Republicans. But your point about the bubble is spot on.
 
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This is about Trump supporters, but it explains the entire purpose of Fox News and hate radio.

In 2000, James Kuklinski and other political scientists at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign established an important distinction: American citizens with incorrect information can be divided into two groups, the misinformed and the uninformed. The difference between the two is stark. Uninformed citizens don’t have any information at all, while those who are misinformed have information that conflicts with the best evidence and expert opinion. As Kuklinski and his colleagues established, in the U.S., the most misinformed citizens tend to be the most confident in their views and are also the strongest partisans. These folks fill the gaps in their knowledge base by using their existing belief systems. Once these inferences are stored into memory, they become “indistinguishable from hard data,” Kuklinski and his colleagues found.

Furthermore, in 2010, political scientists Brendan Nyhan and Jason Reifler found that when misinformed citizens are told that their facts are wrong, they often cling to their opinions even more strongly with what is known as defensive processing, or the “backfire effect.”
 
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Finally have some 2016 polling on the clown nomination.

Trump leading, as befits the representative of the party's intellectual core. Cruz is the Next Clown Up. Everybody else is expired dog food.
 
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