Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
But he can't. Stop pretending that is actually a plausible scenario.
But he can't. Stop pretending that is actually a plausible scenario.
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Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
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The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
I do care.
But I don't let emotion color logic.
My logic says getting people out of poverty lowers crime rates.
We need a growing economy.
That alone cures tons and tons of social ills.
I do care.
But I don't let emotion color logic.
My logic says getting people out of poverty lowers crime rates.
We need a growing economy.
That alone cures tons and tons of social ills.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
You mean like Roe v. Wade is going anywhere?
Both are talismans waived to rally the masses.
You mean like Roe v. Wade is going anywhere?
Both are talismans waived to rally the masses.
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240 million voters in this country.
10-15 million of them wanted a guy who is going to build them a wall and throw all the muslims out. The rest of us voting in those primaries didn't. Unfortunately, not enough of us showed up and the guy got on November's ticket.
Same thing Tuesday.
I don't think he intended it as a profound statement, but both Democrats and Republicans need to remember it.
240 million voters in this country.
10-15 million of them wanted a guy who is going to build them a wall and throw all the muslims out. The rest of us voting in those primaries didn't. Unfortunately, not enough of us showed up and the guy got on November's ticket.
Same thing Tuesday.
I'm not really worried about a total ban, certainly not at this point. I don't really want to see any gun regulations passed though. All they do is jam up decent people and don't make society any safer.
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Leslie Jones is pretty rich. Look what "your neighbors" did to her.
Leslie Jones is pretty rich. Look what "your neighbors" did to her.
bigblue_dl
Armed
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It is a simple way for people to rationalize what happened to just go with the "they're selfish" and "they don't care" argument. In reality, it is much more complicated than that, but too often people will just cling to the easy idea that makes them feel better.
It is a simple way for people to rationalize what happened to just go with the "they're selfish" and "they don't care" argument. In reality, it is much more complicated than that, but too often people will just cling to the easy idea that makes them feel better.
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Maine just had a referendum was to add background checks for private sales and transfers. The NRA 'they are going to take my gunz!!!!' folks scared people into voting no (it also drew out voters that often don't even bother to vote in presidential elections -- and while they were there they voted for Trump). Arguments against it were mostly "but then I can't loan my gun to my hunting buddy without paying for a background check" (you can if you go hunting together) and "but criminals will get guns anyway". The real main intent is so that you don't unknowingly sell or lend your gun to someone that shouldn't have one (for example, someone that might have a restraining order against them for threatening their estranged spouse)
Nothing. Nothing at all. But the "checks" thing is tossed about like there are no checks today. There are.
(If you want to see my POV and keep this thread on track, jump to the Guns thread.)
Maine just had a referendum was to add background checks for private sales and transfers. The NRA 'they are going to take my gunz!!!!' folks scared people into voting no (it also drew out voters that often don't even bother to vote in presidential elections -- and while they were there they voted for Trump). Arguments against it were mostly "but then I can't loan my gun to my hunting buddy without paying for a background check" (you can if you go hunting together) and "but criminals will get guns anyway". The real main intent is so that you don't unknowingly sell or lend your gun to someone that shouldn't have one (for example, someone that might have a restraining order against them for threatening their estranged spouse)
I obviously wasn't clear with what I wrote. It isn't a plausible scenario right now but there is certainly support for it from certain people, and in Bloomberg's case, quite a bit of money behind it. They are working to slowly erode gun rights until they get what they want. Anyone who can't see that is blissfully ignorant.
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sad the "never Trumps" still filled in the bubble for him on Tuesday though. Most of the "never Trumps" were only concerned that he would cost them the White House and the Senate and they didn't want to go down on his ship. They had no issue with racisim or xenophobia.
sad the "never Trumps" still filled in the bubble for him on Tuesday though. Most of the "never Trumps" were only concerned that he would cost them the White House and the Senate and they didn't want to go down on his ship. They had no issue with racisim or xenophobia.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
We all try to prove how "smart" we are with overthought analysis.
When it comes down to it, it's the basics.
Make your free throws.
Be able to lay down a bunt.
Work on your backhander until you can go top corner at will.
Wrap up when you tackle.
Use your turn signals.
Say please and thank you.
Put it back when you're done with it.
And ... who shows up.
All are fundamentals that will get you where you want if you remember and do them.
We all try to prove how "smart" we are with overthought analysis.
When it comes down to it, it's the basics.
Make your free throws.
Be able to lay down a bunt.
Work on your backhander until you can go top corner at will.
Wrap up when you tackle.
Use your turn signals.
Say please and thank you.
Put it back when you're done with it.
And ... who shows up.
All are fundamentals that will get you where you want if you remember and do them.
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Most people don't want to go any further than universal background checks and an assault weapons ban.
They can only go so far because of the modern interpretation of the second amendment (you do know it wasn't always interpreted to protect individual firearms outside of a regulated militia, but that toothpaste isn't going back into the tube).
Most people don't want to go any further than universal background checks and an assault weapons ban.
They can only go so far because of the modern interpretation of the second amendment (you do know it wasn't always interpreted to protect individual firearms outside of a regulated militia, but that toothpaste isn't going back into the tube).
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Let's put it this way. Did you notice that when you kept repeating that over and over again before the election, that nobody was disagreeing with you?
Let's put it this way. Did you notice that when you kept repeating that over and over again before the election, that nobody was disagreeing with you?
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Roe v Wade isn't a constitutional amendment. All it takes is a conservative and partisan enough court.
Roe v Wade isn't a constitutional amendment. All it takes is a conservative and partisan enough court.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
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This is balderdash. I passed a background check in minutes at Cabelas. Honest question, what regulations do you think jam up the consumer?
This is balderdash. I passed a background check in minutes at Cabelas. Honest question, what regulations do you think jam up the consumer?
ScoobyDoo
NPC
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Never ceases to amaze me how they have to be reminded over and over again. The false equivalency crap has got to end.
The right to bear arms is in the Constitution.
The right to have an abortion is not.
They are not the same ****ing thing.
Never ceases to amaze me how they have to be reminded over and over again. The false equivalency crap has got to end.
The right to bear arms is in the Constitution.
The right to have an abortion is not.
They are not the same ****ing thing.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
So, do I now assign the violent "**** Trump" protesters last night as "your neighbors"? Is that how it works?
So, do I now assign the violent "**** Trump" protesters last night as "your neighbors"? Is that how it works?
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
You're assuming all Obama voters would vote for Clinton, and only Romney voters would vote for Trump. Not everyone does a straight ticket. They could have decided an outside businessman is a better choice than a treasonous murderess.
Agreed, and from what I can tell we can thank Dems for that. Trump by the last count is under 60M votes, with about 200K less than Clinton. Romney by comparison got 61M votes. Now all votes haven't been counted yet, but why does Trump win with less votes than Romney? 6M Obama voters stayed home.I don't know yet who they are (blacks, young, Sanders people, etc) so no need to throw around accusations yet, but again, 6M people sat around with their thumbs up their @ sses this time around.
You're assuming all Obama voters would vote for Clinton, and only Romney voters would vote for Trump. Not everyone does a straight ticket. They could have decided an outside businessman is a better choice than a treasonous murderess.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
I have had to wait a few hours for a background check, but that only happens when the system is really bogged down with a bunch of requests, and it is very rare. All of the other times I've had to go through the process, it has been minutes.
I have had to wait a few hours for a background check, but that only happens when the system is really bogged down with a bunch of requests, and it is very rare. All of the other times I've had to go through the process, it has been minutes.
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I agree with this. The more I'm reading about who didn't vote, it gets me angrier. Why didn't these people vote? I liken it to, say, getting a penalty in OT and the other team scores a PPG to win. You don't want that to happen? Kill the penalty.
I would also be able to stomach this new administration if it hadn't unleashed the scary and dangerous gloating. Someone earlier posted that link to Shaun King's twitter. I was reading some of those on the subway on the way in and almost started to cry. Saw a different tweet posted by a friend on Facebook that said some African American got on her school bus and white teenage girls said, starting today, shouldn't you be sitting in the back of the bus? Like, WHAT? There was another instance of these ********* student at Babson that drove around campus yelling and screaming with a Trump flag and stopped at Black fraternity and yelled "Time to go back to Africa" and when a female student called them on it they spit in her face. THAT is what Trump is making acceptable. THAT is why people took to the streets yesterday. I heard his acceptance speech talking about unity and rolled my eyes. Oh sure. OK. I want to make a GIF of that so I can post it on Facebook every time something like this happens (BTW - can anyone help me with that?)
I agree with this. The more I'm reading about who didn't vote, it gets me angrier. Why didn't these people vote? I liken it to, say, getting a penalty in OT and the other team scores a PPG to win. You don't want that to happen? Kill the penalty.
I would also be able to stomach this new administration if it hadn't unleashed the scary and dangerous gloating. Someone earlier posted that link to Shaun King's twitter. I was reading some of those on the subway on the way in and almost started to cry. Saw a different tweet posted by a friend on Facebook that said some African American got on her school bus and white teenage girls said, starting today, shouldn't you be sitting in the back of the bus? Like, WHAT? There was another instance of these ********* student at Babson that drove around campus yelling and screaming with a Trump flag and stopped at Black fraternity and yelled "Time to go back to Africa" and when a female student called them on it they spit in her face. THAT is what Trump is making acceptable. THAT is why people took to the streets yesterday. I heard his acceptance speech talking about unity and rolled my eyes. Oh sure. OK. I want to make a GIF of that so I can post it on Facebook every time something like this happens (BTW - can anyone help me with that?)
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