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Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin

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Four years ago, when Trump thought Romney had won a plurality of the popular vote but lost the electoral college, he tweeted:

-This election is a total sham and a travesty.* We are not a democracy.

-Let’s fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice. The world is laughing at us.

-We can’t let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided.

-The phony electoral college made a laughing stock out of our nation. The loser [sic] one!

http://mashable.com/2012/11/06/trump-reacts-to-election/#msppS80nPkq0

* Is that language "borrowed" from Woody Allen's "Bananas" ? :rolleyes:
 
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Drew S. said:
I think most gun owners would take that deal too (as I would). People blame the NRA for being to extreme but the other side is just as bad if not worse.
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absolute right. everyone who wants to buy a gun should have to hand over their national ID citizen card. scan the barcode to make sure they are not criminals, etc. same way you wave the card to vote. and wave the card to bypass airport security. if you are ok, you're good to go.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
We all try to prove how "smart" we are with overthought analysis.

When it comes down to it, it's the basics.

Make your free throws.
Be able to lay down a bunt.
Work on your backhander until you can go top corner at will.
Wrap up when you tackle.

Use your turn signals.
Say please and thank you.
Put it back when you're done with it.

And ... who shows up.

All are fundamentals that will get you where you want if you remember and do them.
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Just out of curiosity I went through the current results in states won by Trump which put him over the top for Electoral Votes.

He needed only 29,454,074 votes to win those states (Clinton total +1 in each state). Basically, less than 10% of the population, perfectly distributed.
 
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Rogie21 said:
Four years ago, when Trump thought Romney had won a plurality of the popular vote but lost the electoral college, he tweeted:

-This election is a total sham and a travesty.* We are not a democracy.

-Let’s fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice. The world is laughing at us.

-We can’t let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided.

-The phony electoral college made a laughing stock out of our nation. The loser [sic] one!

http://mashable.com/2012/11/06/trump-reacts-to-election/#msppS80nPkq0

* Is that language "borrowed" from Woody Allen's "Bananas" ? :rolleyes:
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can we make the senate proportional representation too?
 
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Drew S. said:
It happened in Australia, which Obama and others would like to emulate. I think you and others misunderestimste just how extreme Bloomberg and others are. He would absolutely ban guns if he could.
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City people want to ban guns, rural people don't. Each is right for their environment. If only we had a unit of political organization where such differences could be expressed. We could call it a "county" or a "Congressional district."

The problem with guns is each side's extremists want a one size fits all solution. Ban guns in cities, let rural people put howitzers in their backyards. Everybody's happy except the gun lobby, and f-ck them. Problem solved.
 
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MaizeRage said:
Sure. I deeply, deeply regret that those people blocked traffic for a few hours, and vow to do my best to help our nation through this troubling time. If anyone here was affected by this tragedy, or ever been stuck in traffic before, I'm here to talk if you need me.
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Cool. I'll have Oakland PD call you about the car that the protesters burned. Now, about that Trump "hung in effigy" thing, I figure that group used their own property so there's no loss there.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
Cool. I'll have Oakland PD call you about the car that the protesters burned. Now, about that Trump "hung in effigy" thing, I figure that group used their own property so there's no loss there.
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There's a lot of economic anxiety there. I think they're idiots. But you, apparently, have to respect that.
 
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Drew S. said:
I think most gun owners would take that deal too (as I would). People blame the NRA for being to extreme but the other side is just as bad if not worse.
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The numbers are stark. One side is 50 million Trump voters. The other side is an ex-mayor who wants to ban Big Gulps too.

There are millions of Democratic gun owners who support background checks but hold the right to bear arms as sacred as you do. You are making the slippery slope fallacy, where you refuse to budge an inch because miles down the road you could lose something. Your argument is equivalent to saying there should be no speed limits because extremists will want to reduce the limit to zero.
 
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Kepler said:
Missed it by this much. INTJs rule.
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Because the ratings are scales, I'm next most like the ISTP, then the (as you) INTJ.

From an ISTP description:

One tool especially attractive to the ISTP is the weapon. The hit man of today, the gunslinger of the American West, and the duelist of the 18th Century Europe, may be seen as virtuosos ... the weapon virtuoso is more frequently ISTP than not.
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The guys I target shoot with would agree. ;)
 
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BassAle said:
no. The way it was written if you are there, you can lend the gun without it being considered a transfer. You can go hunting with a buddy and lend him a gun, or go target shooting with a friend and it isn't considered a transfer for the purpose of this law. But if you lend him a gun to take on a hunting trip and you aren't going to be there then that is a transfer and would require a background check.
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If that's the case, then I don't see a problem with the law. As long as these were explicitly outlined.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
If that's the case, then I don't see a problem with the law. As long as these were explicitly outlined.
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They were not at all. I read the official language in the law when it came out and was horrified. A lot of half-truths were in the stories and endorsements of the referendum. You would read things such as ' the law allows you to loan a gun to your hunting buddies' convienently leaving out the fact that you would both go to jail if you were not together.

Edit: law is clear but was misrepresented by Bloomberg's people.
 
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BassAle said:
But if you lend him a gun to take on a hunting trip and you aren't going to be there then that is a transfer and would require a background check.
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dxmnkd316 said:
If that's the case, then I don't see a problem with the law. As long as these were explicitly outlined.
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So, a hypothetical:
Under that law, if I'm at the target range with a friend and give them my firearm to take home and store for me temporarily (because I have somewhere else to go where I can not legally have it), we've broken the law? Because they have my firearm without me present it's a violation?
 
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The Sicatoka said:
With all due respect to a sitting Supreme, I do believe Ms. Ginsberg
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And I believe Notorious RBG better eat right and exercise, stay out of drafts, and buy a Kevlar dashiki, poison-sensitive white gloves, and a garrote-proof jabot.
 
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Will Rahn of CBS News:

You’d think that Trump’s victory – the one we all discounted too far in advance – would lead to a certain newfound humility in the political press. But of course that’s not how it works. To us, speaking broadly, our diagnosis was still basically correct. The demons were just stronger than we realized.

This is all a “whitelash,” you see. Trump voters are racist and sexist, so there must be more racists and sexists than we realized. Tuesday night’s outcome was not a logic-driven rejection of a deeply flawed candidate named Clinton; no, it was a primal scream against fairness, equality, and progress. Let the new tantrums commence!
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/comment...ness-of-the-press-presidential-election-2016/

Never heard of or read this guy before, but I'm pretty sure they're deleting his PIN to the door to the Washington media clubhouse. ;)
 
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