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Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
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ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
And there's another stat.
I will now laugh every time I read an article about a family being busted up because of a deportation. LAUGH.
And there's another stat.
I will now laugh every time I read an article about a family being busted up because of a deportation. LAUGH.
Spartanforlife4
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And around 140 years ago some people decided to compromise and concede a 3% lead, ending Reconstruction and the policies created from that are still causing issues today.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
You are right...and you are right that many of us unfairly dogged you because you spent time trying to explain why people would vote for Trumpf even though you werent. Speaking for myself, I was blind to the idea that people could look past the crap and still cling to an issue. You and Wisko both tried to show us that and we couldnt see it because that is not how we think. We were wrong...
You are right...and you are right that many of us unfairly dogged you because you spent time trying to explain why people would vote for Trumpf even though you werent. Speaking for myself, I was blind to the idea that people could look past the crap and still cling to an issue. You and Wisko both tried to show us that and we couldnt see it because that is not how we think. We were wrong...
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
A lot of people(myself included) voted early this year because it was more convenient, but have in the past, and would have this year, voted on Election Day.
The longer lines can be attributed to the first election since the Voting Rights Act expired. Voting on a random Tuesday in November may have made sense in an agrarian society, but it's insane now. Early voting needs to be expanded in a significant way, and/or Election Day should be a work holiday.
A lot of people(myself included) voted early this year because it was more convenient, but have in the past, and would have this year, voted on Election Day.
The longer lines can be attributed to the first election since the Voting Rights Act expired. Voting on a random Tuesday in November may have made sense in an agrarian society, but it's insane now. Early voting needs to be expanded in a significant way, and/or Election Day should be a work holiday.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
Are they though? Maybe it's not obvious to me. Can you expand on this a bit? Why aren't they?
I look at them and see two entertainers who were swept into office by an uprising from a single voting bloc. We have absolutely no idea how Trump is going to govern. I wasn't around for Reagan's first term so I have no idea what the feeling was like back then. Did we know what the next eight years were going to be like? And I mean did we truly know?
Are they though? Maybe it's not obvious to me. Can you expand on this a bit? Why aren't they?
I look at them and see two entertainers who were swept into office by an uprising from a single voting bloc. We have absolutely no idea how Trump is going to govern. I wasn't around for Reagan's first term so I have no idea what the feeling was like back then. Did we know what the next eight years were going to be like? And I mean did we truly know?
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
Reagan had been Governor of California for years before he became President. We knew what we were getting.
4th of July (if a Saturday 7/3, Sunday 7/5). Congress sits on 9/3 & the President gets sworn in on 9/20.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
36 of 44 Senate Ds are older than Mr. Obama (55). 38-40* of 54 Senate Rs are older. (He's younger than both Is.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_United_States_senators_by_age
*I'm too lazy to do to the day.
36 of 44 Senate Ds are older than Mr. Obama (55). 38-40* of 54 Senate Rs are older. (He's younger than both Is.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_United_States_senators_by_age
*I'm too lazy to do to the day.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
You think Obama was really the highest we've ever seen the pendulum swing left? He was a moderate in almost every facet. Almost
You think Obama was really the highest we've ever seen the pendulum swing left? He was a moderate in almost every facet. Almost
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
That is ****ing bull****. Blame the people that didn't vote, blame the people that voted for him, but it is complete bull**** to blame people that voted, but not for Trump.
That is ****ing bull****. Blame the people that didn't vote, blame the people that voted for him, but it is complete bull**** to blame people that voted, but not for Trump.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
You're confusing a couple things. Being upset is entirely acceptable. It's more a matter of people seem unable to channel their dour emotions into something helpful. If you're upset at the outcome of the election, pouting or rioting doesn't do anybody any good. If people here, who are allegedly smart individuals and still acting like toddlers who had their safety blankets taken from them, take the time to assess what happened, stripping the situation of the vitriol and truly analyzing it, they can work towards correcting the course of this situation in two years and outright reversing it two years after that.
This is not coming from a Trump supporter - I was actively trying to convince my brother from casting a vote for the man offline. This is just coming from an adult. It's time to grow up, America, and comport ourselves with some dignity. Put on your big boy/girl pants and start doing something constructive, not moaning like your mothers were just shot dead.
You're confusing a couple things. Being upset is entirely acceptable. It's more a matter of people seem unable to channel their dour emotions into something helpful. If you're upset at the outcome of the election, pouting or rioting doesn't do anybody any good. If people here, who are allegedly smart individuals and still acting like toddlers who had their safety blankets taken from them, take the time to assess what happened, stripping the situation of the vitriol and truly analyzing it, they can work towards correcting the course of this situation in two years and outright reversing it two years after that.
This is not coming from a Trump supporter - I was actively trying to convince my brother from casting a vote for the man offline. This is just coming from an adult. It's time to grow up, America, and comport ourselves with some dignity. Put on your big boy/girl pants and start doing something constructive, not moaning like your mothers were just shot dead.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
It's not BS at all. People who didn't vote for either of them didn't vote and don't understand how the American System is set up. It's the same learning disability Americans have with science and history.
My conscience is clear.
It's not BS at all. People who didn't vote for either of them didn't vote and don't understand how the American System is set up. It's the same learning disability Americans have with science and history.
My conscience is clear.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
Radical, but I'd be OK with making "first Tuesday after first Monday in November in years evenly divisible by four" a national holiday. If you are in an "essential job" (cops, fire, yadda-yadda) you'd be guaranteed to only have to work a half day.
Radical, but I'd be OK with making "first Tuesday after first Monday in November in years evenly divisible by four" a national holiday. If you are in an "essential job" (cops, fire, yadda-yadda) you'd be guaranteed to only have to work a half day.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
Forget about it. Scooby just needs someone to blame other than his purebred mare coming up lame in the final leg.
Forget about it. Scooby just needs someone to blame other than his purebred mare coming up lame in the final leg.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
I go round and round on election day versus early voting, etc... We are certainly moving towards more and more early voting, and I don't see that changing. Personally I like to wait until election day, in case something develops, but really more for the ceremony of it. But I'll admit that's probably the old guy in me.
I don't think it would be a terrible idea to make election day a holiday, although personally I wish it were not a Tuesday. I hate midweek holidays.
I'll have to confess my ignorance on this. What's the connection between the two? Fewer voting places? Fewer machines? Honest question.
I go round and round on election day versus early voting, etc... We are certainly moving towards more and more early voting, and I don't see that changing. Personally I like to wait until election day, in case something develops, but really more for the ceremony of it. But I'll admit that's probably the old guy in me.
I don't think it would be a terrible idea to make election day a holiday, although personally I wish it were not a Tuesday. I hate midweek holidays.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
Oh, no. I'm spreading it around. The 53% of white women and the 350K Latinos in Florida are the most culpable. I will no longer weep when a 13 year old rape victim in Texas can't get the health care she needs and I will no longer weep when a family is busted up because of a deportation.
I will also feel nothing for global warming. Nothing.
Oh, no. I'm spreading it around. The 53% of white women and the 350K Latinos in Florida are the most culpable. I will no longer weep when a 13 year old rape victim in Texas can't get the health care she needs and I will no longer weep when a family is busted up because of a deportation.
I will also feel nothing for global warming. Nothing.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
His second term, undoubtedly. His first term (when he had Congress) he was further left. Did I just say Obama mellowed with age?
His second term, undoubtedly. His first term (when he had Congress) he was further left. Did I just say Obama mellowed with age?
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
I 100% agree. You would have needed to put all of Stein's and Johnson's votes together and give them to Hillary to flip a few key states. Even then that might not have been enough. The problem with that line of thinking is that it's not that easy. Let's assume that 80% of Stein's vote would have gone to Hillary. Johnson's votes, on the other hand, wouldn't have gone Hillary. If we had a preference poll instead of a single vote, you would have likely seen 60%+ go to Trump.
The third parties didn't give us Trump, apathy did.
I 100% agree. You would have needed to put all of Stein's and Johnson's votes together and give them to Hillary to flip a few key states. Even then that might not have been enough. The problem with that line of thinking is that it's not that easy. Let's assume that 80% of Stein's vote would have gone to Hillary. Johnson's votes, on the other hand, wouldn't have gone Hillary. If we had a preference poll instead of a single vote, you would have likely seen 60%+ go to Trump.
The third parties didn't give us Trump, apathy did.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXV: Fin
As much as it makes up a significant block of his support, it wasn't the wild-eyed crazy bigots that put Trump in office. Fascism was on the ballot and anybody that hemmed and hedged about some stupid made-up email scandal gave it their passive support, which put it over the top. "I just can't support her" = "I'm fine with him being President"
Sorry, but you condone it, you own it. Every story I posted last night of people being called racist slurs and told to leave the country because of their skin color is on them.
As much as it makes up a significant block of his support, it wasn't the wild-eyed crazy bigots that put Trump in office. Fascism was on the ballot and anybody that hemmed and hedged about some stupid made-up email scandal gave it their passive support, which put it over the top. "I just can't support her" = "I'm fine with him being President"
Sorry, but you condone it, you own it. Every story I posted last night of people being called racist slurs and told to leave the country because of their skin color is on them.
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