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Campaign 2016 Part XXIII: The Penultimate Thread

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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIII: The Penultimate Thread

The investigation has gone on longer than we investigated 9/11 and Pearl Harbor combined. Maybe it's time to let it go?

The investigation has gone on longer than some wars do :eek:

Where were all the investigations of the diplomats who died on the GOPs watch...or the lies to Congress about Iraq? I mean if 4 lives matter this much 5000 should be worthy of a few hours amirite?

I would ask the FBI to look into it but they just heard Hillary once sent a birthday card to someone so now they are re-re-opening the Whitewater Investigation.
 
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According to One Source: Clinton Has an 8 Point Lead in Early Voting in Florida

In case you dont want to click:

According to TargetSmart, who is known for their political data, Clinton has an eight point lead in Florida among early voters.

BREAKING: @_TargetSmart/@williamandmary FL poll: HRC 48 – DJT 40
Early voters from FL SoS: 55 – 38
Likely voters, haven't voted yet: 42 – 43

— TargetSmart (@_TargetSmart) November 2, 2016

Tom Bonier, TargetSmart CEO, appeared on The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell on MSNBC to share the news of this polling. The most surprising finding being that Clinton has 28% of registered Republican voters voting for her.

Take it with a grain obviously...
 
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If Hillary is so horrible...why is Bill Weld, Gary Johnson's VP defending her and trying to help her win? Probably just doesnt want to get Vince Fostered ;)
 
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Well duh. But no one else stepped up.

Except for the Democratic Socialist from Vermont who got 46% of the vote even with the party apparatus working against him.

Nah I go back to what Carlin said...

"Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don’t fall out of the sky. They don’t pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It’s what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you’re going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain’t going to do any good; you’re just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it’s not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here… like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There’s a nice campaign slogan for somebody: ‘The Public Sucks. **** Hope.’"

While I love me some George Carlin, there are some people who get into politics with the best of intentions but then circumstances, our system and power take their good intentions and turn them into toxic sludge. I know good people who have gotten into politics for good reasons but change once the system gets ahold of them. I also know people who got out of politics because they didn't like what was happening to them. It takes an exceptional person to get into politics and NOT have it corrupt them. Unfortunately our system is set up so those people will rarely be serious candidates for the highest office in the land.
 
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Seems likely. I wonder why the Bushes are voting for her.
 
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Seems likely. I wonder why the Bushes are voting for her.

Hillary? Because Drumpf is about as far away from what they believe the GOP is about as you can get. Plus IIRC the Bushes and the Clintons actually have a pretty solid relationship. GHWB and Bill I know got along after Bill took office and Bill did charity work with Dubya. Plus Laura is actually pretty smart and realizes how bad Drumpf will hurt women's rights.
 
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Except for the Democratic Socialist from Vermont who got 46% of the vote even with the party apparatus rigged against him.



While I love me some George Carlin, there are some people who get into politics with the best of intentions but then circumstances, our system and power take their good intentions and turn them into toxic sludge. I know good people who have gotten into politics for good reasons but change once the system gets ahold of them. I also know people who got out of politics because they didn't like what was happening to them. It takes an exceptional person to get into politics and NOT have it corrupt them. Unfortunately our system is set up so those people will rarely be serious candidates for the highest office in the land.


And you know what? I'm fine with that. If you can't beat a machine, how do you expect to take on an entire country? Negotiate with Iran? Shove policy through congress?

I want someone who is an efficient killing machine that overlaps with my policies the most.

Libertarians can have their dope-smoking morons who don't have a lick of policy in their platform outside of "Dave's not here man" and socialists can have their candidates who die on the hill defending their principles.

I want someone who is going to push for (most of) the principles I care about and not get crushed in the process or get lost on the way to 7-11 to buy a bag of Funyuns.
 
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Hillary? Because Drumpf is about as far away from what they believe the GOP is about as you can get. Plus IIRC the Bushes and the Clintons actually have a pretty solid relationship. GHWB and Bill I know got along after Bill took office and Bill did charity work with Dubya. Plus Laura is actually pretty smart and realizes how bad Drumpf will hurt women's rights.

I'm aware. I was being a smarmy jackazz. ;)
 
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Hillary? Because Drumpf is about as far away from what they believe the GOP is about as you can get. Plus IIRC the Bushes and the Clintons actually have a pretty solid relationship. GHWB and Bill I know got along after Bill took office and Bill did charity work with Dubya. Plus Laura is actually pretty smart and realizes how bad Drumpf will hurt women's rights.

Remember when GHWB made the fatal mistake of looking at his watch during a debate and it helped cost him the election? We were so young and innocent in those days.
 
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Sorry Priceless, I was as big a Bernie guy as there was...he didnt lose because it was rigged against him he lost because he wasnt a Democrat and he didnt win the states he needed to win. It sucks but that is just the way it is.

Was that WaPo article supposed to be funny because if so it wildly missed the mark.
 
Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I'm simply pointing out what we are all witnessing right there in front of us in the news and in the polls.

Most likely she will still win, but seriously, if the dems put up a better candidate, this one would have been over in July.

Yeah, because someone who is voting for Gary Johnson really has credibility when judging candidates.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIII: The Penultimate Thread

Stolen from a comments section, but sums it up nicely.

Trump admitting sexual assault.
Clinton emails.
Trump charity fraud.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls for nuclear proliferation.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls for national stop and frisk.
Clinton emails.
Trump violates trade embargo with Cuba.
Clinton emails.
Trump sued over Trump University fraud.
Clinton emails.
Trump accused of bribing DA in IRS case.
Clinton emails.
Trump doesnt pay taxes for 20 years.
Clinton emails.
Trump employs campaign manager accused of being involved in illegal corruption with Russia.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls for ban of an entire religion from entering US.
Clinton emails.
Trump lied about support for Iraq War over and over in debate.
Clinton emails.
Trump cased dismissed by accuser to re-file b/c of new witness in child rape case.
Clinton emails.
Trump unaware of Russia's Crimea occupation.
Clinton emails.
Trump unaware of situation in Syria.
Clinton emails.
Trump penalized for racist housing discrimination.
Clinton emails.
Trump files for bankrupcy 6 times.
Clinton emails.
Trump goes 0-3 in debates by showing scant knowledge of world politics.
Clinton emails.
Trump slams people for being POWs. (prisoners of war)
Clinton emails.
Trump calls Mexicans rapists.
Clinton emails.
Trump questions judge's integrity because of parent's heritage.
Clinton emails.
Trump deletes emails involved in casino scandal.
Clinton emails.
Trump has over 10 assault victims and witnesses come forward with allegations of abuse.
Clinton emails.
Trump attacks former Miss Universe for being overweight.
Clinton emails.
Trump tweets about sex tapes at 3am.
Clinton emails.
Trump says he will try US citizens accused of terrorism at Gitmo.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls for more extreme forms of torture to be used.
Clinton emails.
Trump asks why we can't use our nukes if we have them.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls for offensive bombing attack on sovereign nations because someone gives the middle finger.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls to kill women and children of suspected terrorists.
Clinton emails.
Trump says women should be punished for having abortions.
Clinton emails.
Trump makes fun of disabled people.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls for end of freedom of the press.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls global warming a chinese hoax.
Clinton emails.
Trump praises Putin and Kim Jong Un's strong leadership.
Clinton emails.
Trump openly admits to not paying his contractors during debate.
Clinton emails.
Trump openly admits not apologizing to wife in debate about Access Hollywood tape.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls Obama an illegitimate noncitizen hundreds of times over 7 years.
Clinton emails.
Trump uses campaign donations to enrich his own businesses.
Clinton emails.
Trump says Ted Cruz father involved in JFK assassination.
Clinton emails.
Trump says laziness is an inherent trait in black people.
Clinton emails.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIII: The Penultimate Thread

Stolen from a comments section, but sums it up nicely.

Trump admitting sexual assault.
Clinton emails.
Trump charity fraud.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls for nuclear proliferation.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls for national stop and frisk.
Clinton emails.
Trump violates trade embargo with Cuba.
Clinton emails.
Trump sued over Trump University fraud.
Clinton emails.
Trump accused of bribing DA in IRS case.
Clinton emails.
Trump doesnt pay taxes for 20 years.
Clinton emails.
Trump employs campaign manager accused of being involved in illegal corruption with Russia.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls for ban of an entire religion from entering US.
Clinton emails.
Trump lied about support for Iraq War over and over in debate.
Clinton emails.
Trump cased dismissed by accuser to re-file b/c of new witness in child rape case.
Clinton emails.
Trump unaware of Russia's Crimea occupation.
Clinton emails.
Trump unaware of situation in Syria.
Clinton emails.
Trump penalized for racist housing discrimination.
Clinton emails.
Trump files for bankrupcy 6 times.
Clinton emails.
Trump goes 0-3 in debates by showing scant knowledge of world politics.
Clinton emails.
Trump slams people for being POWs. (prisoners of war)
Clinton emails.
Trump calls Mexicans rapists.
Clinton emails.
Trump questions judge's integrity because of parent's heritage.
Clinton emails.
Trump deletes emails involved in casino scandal.
Clinton emails.
Trump has over 10 assault victims and witnesses come forward with allegations of abuse.
Clinton emails.
Trump attacks former Miss Universe for being overweight.
Clinton emails.
Trump tweets about sex tapes at 3am.
Clinton emails.
Trump says he will try US citizens accused of terrorism at Gitmo.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls for more extreme forms of torture to be used.
Clinton emails.
Trump asks why we can't use our nukes if we have them.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls for offensive bombing attack on sovereign nations because someone gives the middle finger.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls to kill women and children of suspected terrorists.
Clinton emails.
Trump says women should be punished for having abortions.
Clinton emails.
Trump makes fun of disabled people.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls for end of freedom of the press.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls global warming a chinese hoax.
Clinton emails.
Trump praises Putin and Kim Jong Un's strong leadership.
Clinton emails.
Trump openly admits to not paying his contractors during debate.
Clinton emails.
Trump openly admits not apologizing to wife in debate about Access Hollywood tape.
Clinton emails.
Trump calls Obama an illegitimate noncitizen hundreds of times over 7 years.
Clinton emails.
Trump uses campaign donations to enrich his own businesses.
Clinton emails.
Trump says Ted Cruz father involved in JFK assassination.
Clinton emails.
Trump says laziness is an inherent trait in black people.
Clinton emails.

Brilliant. Needs to appear on every page until the election. ;)
 
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Yeah I saw that on Facebook...made me chuckle.
 
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