dxmnkd316
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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
I'll give you 2:1 he wins.
I'll give you 2:1 he wins.
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Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
It's a smart move to try to save the Senate.
Lewis C. K. said it right. White people aren't from this planet.
It's a smart move to try to save the Senate.
Lewis C. K. said it right. White people aren't from this planet.
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
Just a normal election, folks. Nothing to worry about.
Just a normal election, folks. Nothing to worry about.
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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
More on the McCain thing here: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewi...medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark
To be fair, I can't tell if he's saying they still won't vote, or they'll just vote no over and over. The latter I guess is his prerogative, at least it puts them all on record as having voted that way.
More on the McCain thing here: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewi...medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark
To be fair, I can't tell if he's saying they still won't vote, or they'll just vote no over and over. The latter I guess is his prerogative, at least it puts them all on record as having voted that way.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
I consider the AZ race a bellweather on "Is it a rout or not?" That's why I'd love to see some polling. Last ones were during Trump's early September high water mark.
So, there's like 6 other races I'd expect to fall before that one. In order: IL, WI, PA, NH, IN, NC. McCain, Blunt and Rubio are in the next tier. I wouldn't take your bet right now. However, if a week out from election day AZ is still tied between Hill and Trump, I may reconsider.
I consider the AZ race a bellweather on "Is it a rout or not?" That's why I'd love to see some polling. Last ones were during Trump's early September high water mark.
So, there's like 6 other races I'd expect to fall before that one. In order: IL, WI, PA, NH, IN, NC. McCain, Blunt and Rubio are in the next tier. I wouldn't take your bet right now. However, if a week out from election day AZ is still tied between Hill and Trump, I may reconsider.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
For Senate? I'll have to check it out. RCP only had Labor Day-ish polls.
EDIT: Same thing. Polls are all from early September and August.
For Senate? I'll have to check it out. RCP only had Labor Day-ish polls.
EDIT: Same thing. Polls are all from early September and August.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
Nobody ganged up on him. His views were of the mainstream. He knew it. He still posted them. When people called him out on them he got upset. If your going to put your stuff out there (I do it every day) you should expect a little flack.
Nobody ganged up on him. His views were of the mainstream. He knew it. He still posted them. When people called him out on them he got upset. If your going to put your stuff out there (I do it every day) you should expect a little flack.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
I agree with this. McCain right now is running in terror of the base turning against him. He can't fully tongue Trump without educated conservatives recoiling from him, so he needed to do something to throw red meat to the yokels. This is his try. To be honest, I think it will work. In the words of Animal House, "it's gotta work better than the truth."
I agree with this. McCain right now is running in terror of the base turning against him. He can't fully tongue Trump without educated conservatives recoiling from him, so he needed to do something to throw red meat to the yokels. This is his try. To be honest, I think it will work. In the words of Animal House, "it's gotta work better than the truth."
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
McCain and Ayotte are in fascinating races because they're being squeezed on both sides. By disavowing Trump, they've PO'd his voters who are a vindictive bunch with little Establishment Republican party loyalty. On the other hand, their previous Trump coddling has cost them the cross over votes they need for a cushion against any right wing defections. I personally don't think Ayotte can walk that tightrope. Trump is going to lose highly educated, half MA transplanted New Hampshire by a wide margin. How he does in AZ remains to be seen.
The flip side is people like Burr and Rubio have cast their lot with Trump come hell or high water. I will say this. With a probable high single digit loss on the Presidential ticket, I wouldn't want to be in a tie race as an incumbent Senator of the same party.
McCain and Ayotte are in fascinating races because they're being squeezed on both sides. By disavowing Trump, they've PO'd his voters who are a vindictive bunch with little Establishment Republican party loyalty. On the other hand, their previous Trump coddling has cost them the cross over votes they need for a cushion against any right wing defections. I personally don't think Ayotte can walk that tightrope. Trump is going to lose highly educated, half MA transplanted New Hampshire by a wide margin. How he does in AZ remains to be seen.
The flip side is people like Burr and Rubio have cast their lot with Trump come hell or high water. I will say this. With a probable high single digit loss on the Presidential ticket, I wouldn't want to be in a tie race as an incumbent Senator of the same party.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
Bob's views were definitely rightish and I had as many arguments with him as anyone. He posted and often argued for years...but it's no big surprise that he left after some here started to consistently behave like 10 yo's whenever he posted.
Bob's views were definitely rightish and I had as many arguments with him as anyone. He posted and often argued for years...but it's no big surprise that he left after some here started to consistently behave like 10 yo's whenever he posted.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
There's only 1485 days until the 2020 election and I'm sure some of our ****tiest human beings are already on their way to Iowa. It's only fair to wait on picking the justice.
There's only 1485 days until the 2020 election and I'm sure some of our ****tiest human beings are already on their way to Iowa. It's only fair to wait on picking the justice.
French Rage
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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
LOL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDAinHgaViI
LOL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDAinHgaViI
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
With all the traveling I do for work, I have yet to meet a Trump supporter under 40. Almost all of them have fit the stereotype - 50+, white, hippopotamous-shaped sales guys, squatting at the end of the hotel bar, half in the bag, and being whiny little b*tches. My favorite one was the guy in Minneapolis who was a farking Canuck and couldn't even vote for him.
With all the traveling I do for work, I have yet to meet a Trump supporter under 40. Almost all of them have fit the stereotype - 50+, white, hippopotamous-shaped sales guys, squatting at the end of the hotel bar, half in the bag, and being whiny little b*tches. My favorite one was the guy in Minneapolis who was a farking Canuck and couldn't even vote for him.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
Its not a fetish...I prefer to call it an eccentricity
Its not a fetish...I prefer to call it an eccentricity
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
My impression as well. All of this is anecdotal of course but to me the people really into the nutty conspiracy theories are the older crowd.
With all the traveling I do for work, I have yet to meet a Trump supporter under 40. Almost all of them have fit the stereotype - 50+, white, hippopotamous-shaped sales guys, squatting at the end of the hotel bar, half in the bag, and being whiny little b*tches. My favorite one was the guy in Minneapolis who was a farking Canuck and couldn't even vote for him.
My impression as well. All of this is anecdotal of course but to me the people really into the nutty conspiracy theories are the older crowd.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
Are we looking at the same 538? There are at least two from October and late September.
Are we looking at the same 538? There are at least two from October and late September.
E.J. Smith
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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
I know this isn’t a new insight but the “real” Republicans – Chamber of Commerce, Wall Street, bankers and executives – realized in the ‘60s that they didn’t have the votes, looked around to see who they could con, and not surprisingly settle on the uneducated, least worldly segment of the population. They fired them up about culture issues that the “real” Republicans couldn’t give 2 chits about and that has been the world we’ve lived in for the better part of my lifetime, and I’m not young. In a strange way you almost have to admire their skill in keeping the con running for so, so long. On the flip side, it’s not hard to fool someone who wants to be fooled.
The con has now run its course and the rubes are livid, and justifiably so, with the con men. I think two things have brought this all to a head. The world is so much faster and more connected now. What used to be angry letters to the editor of the E. Bumf*#% Gazette read by 27 people are now internet comments on Fox News or some other right-wing site read by thousands of people. So the rubes are now connected to each other, and they’re calling themselves the Tea Party.
The other cause is globalization. This one is real, and the one I think we all need to be worried about no matter how this election goes. Abortion, guns, race, etc. are about beliefs and how you live your life but globalization is existential. I’m a lefty, and I get the arguments for a global economy but globalization has unleashed some powerful and fundamental changes on the world. I think we’re slowly losing the insurance of “people will always complain but as long as they’ve got something left to lose they won’t get too carried away.” People are beginning to think they have nothing left to lose. Whoever wins this election, and the next one, and the one after that better figure out a way to keep even a small percentage of those 40M Trump followers from sliding too far down that path.
So you’re suggesting they knowingly and willingly concede every national election for the foreseeable future, and with them the federal government, to the Democrats?
I know this isn’t a new insight but the “real” Republicans – Chamber of Commerce, Wall Street, bankers and executives – realized in the ‘60s that they didn’t have the votes, looked around to see who they could con, and not surprisingly settle on the uneducated, least worldly segment of the population. They fired them up about culture issues that the “real” Republicans couldn’t give 2 chits about and that has been the world we’ve lived in for the better part of my lifetime, and I’m not young. In a strange way you almost have to admire their skill in keeping the con running for so, so long. On the flip side, it’s not hard to fool someone who wants to be fooled.
The con has now run its course and the rubes are livid, and justifiably so, with the con men. I think two things have brought this all to a head. The world is so much faster and more connected now. What used to be angry letters to the editor of the E. Bumf*#% Gazette read by 27 people are now internet comments on Fox News or some other right-wing site read by thousands of people. So the rubes are now connected to each other, and they’re calling themselves the Tea Party.
The other cause is globalization. This one is real, and the one I think we all need to be worried about no matter how this election goes. Abortion, guns, race, etc. are about beliefs and how you live your life but globalization is existential. I’m a lefty, and I get the arguments for a global economy but globalization has unleashed some powerful and fundamental changes on the world. I think we’re slowly losing the insurance of “people will always complain but as long as they’ve got something left to lose they won’t get too carried away.” People are beginning to think they have nothing left to lose. Whoever wins this election, and the next one, and the one after that better figure out a way to keep even a small percentage of those 40M Trump followers from sliding too far down that path.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXII: Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Politicians!
This post, coupled with the stolen quote that has constituted my signature these many years, is what makes me sad.
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