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Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes early

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I highly doubt it'll make quite the splash as Romney's 47% comment, but it could be seen as something much worse, pretty much calling roughly 25% of Americans vile creatures. It doesn't really make her look like she'd be a president for everyone (the retort thrown at Romney, if anyone cares to remember).

Saying there is no place in the governmental power structure for white supremacists and Holocaust deniers is pretty much the definition of governing for everyone.

Meanwhile, Trump spent today claiming he helped clear rubble to search for survivors during 9/11. No footage of that found. Only footage found was him bragging on 9/11 that he now owned the largest building in Manhattan. Oh, and when questioned how Trump's steal the oil plan would work, given that it is clearly outlawed by international law, Rudy Guiliani said, "Nothing is illegal during a war" Hillary was too kind. Anyone supporting that at this point is pretty deplorable.
 
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Saying there is no place in the governmental power structure for white supremacists and Holocaust deniers is pretty much the definition of governing for everyone.

Meanwhile, Trump spent today claiming he helped clear rubble to search for survivors during 9/11. No footage of that found. Only footage found was him bragging on 9/11 that he now owned the largest building in Manhattan. Oh, and when questioned how Trump's steal the oil plan would work, given that it is clearly outlawed by international law, Rudy Guiliani said, "Nothing is illegal during a war" Hillary was too kind. Anyone supporting that at this point is pretty deplorable.

It's the irredeemable comment that sticks though. What's the point of a corrections and therapy process if people are who they are and can't become positive members of society? What does it say that she's unwilling to try reaching out to people and making a difference in everyone's lives rather than those with whom she agrees?
 
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Saying there is no place in the governmental power structure for white supremacists and Holocaust deniers is pretty much the definition of governing for everyone.

I'm no fan of supremacists or deniers of any ilk, but they too, like it or not, are a part of "everyone". I'd like to see them included in the process so they can be defeated openly in the public forum.
 
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I understand the break in Secret Service protocol (because they were surprised and rushed by the early exit), but Mrs. Clinton's different handling of the press pool is, well, different. A suspicious person might wonder if she's intentionally staying away from the press so they can't monitor her (behaviors, health) more closely.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...intons-early-departure-from-sunday-911-event/
 
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Jesus...that doesnt look good at all.

That's, uh, pretty dam scary.

Now, it could be just a bad day, or whatever, we all have them, but with all the other whatever rumors floating around....they need damage control, and fast.
 
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It's the irredeemable comment that sticks though. What's the point of a corrections and therapy process if people are who they are and can't become positive members of society? What does it say that she's unwilling to try reaching out to people and making a difference in everyone's lives rather than those with whom she agrees?

Good lord you can't be serious. Whether or not it was a smart thing to say by a candidate for president is one thing, but anyone that honestly believes the election of ANYONE for president is going to change the minds of the most extreme members of our society in 2016 is living in a fantasy world. By the time you've crossed over into the world of the white supremacists you may as well be considered a lost cause. Or at least enough so that it's a waste of time for the president to be expected to help these people see a better path. It isn't like you are trying to sell a value added tax as a replacement for a progressive income tax system to me. No amount of "reaching out" is going to make the duck dynasty beard wearing, rebel flag taped to the back window of the pick-up truck driving, 88 tats all over the hands and arms sporting mouth breathing supporter of Donald Trump see the errors of his racism.
 
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From the video (mirrored or not), why is Mrs. Clinton using a van and not a standard limousine or SUV?

Vans are, by their very nature, more difficult to harden than limos or SUVs.

Does she have trouble getting into limosines or the standard issue black GMC SUV favored by government? If so, why?
 
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The concern is strong in this one. :p :rolleyes:

The right is going to have to decide whether she's decrepit or a monster. Pushing both scare stories undercuts each.
 
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The concern is strong in this one. :p :rolleyes:

The right is going to have to decide whether she's decrepit or a monster. Pushing both scare stories undercuts each.

She could be both. Even monsters get old. :D
 
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Her doc sez pneumonia.
 
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The concern is strong in this one. :p :rolleyes:

The right is going to have to decide whether she's decrepit or a monster. Pushing both scare stories undercuts each.

Like the Right is capable of recognizing that kind of nuance.
 
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From the video (mirrored or not), why is Mrs. Clinton using a van and not a standard limousine or SUV?

Vans are, by their very nature, more difficult to harden than limos or SUVs.

Does she have trouble getting into limosines or the standard issue black GMC SUV favored by government? If so, why?

And notice how when she falls her head goes back and to the left.

Back and to the left.

We're through the looking glass, people.
 
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Well if it is pneumonia they should get every piece of evidence out there that they can.
 
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And notice how when she falls her head goes back and to the left.

Back and to the left.

We're through the looking glass, people.

Let him go...he is rolling.

I wonder if Keith Hernandez is involved in this somehow :eek:
 
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Her doc sez pneumonia.

Could account for the coughing fits. Pneumonia can take time to clear up, can be contracted more than once over a period of weeks and months and sometimes is accompanied by pretty violent coughing. Post-tussive syncope -- otherwise known as fainting caused by violent coughing might be explained by pneumonia.
 
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Could account for the coughing fits. Pneumonia can take time to clear up, can be contracted more than once over a period of weeks and months and sometimes is accompanied by pretty violent coughing. Post-tussive syncope -- otherwise known as fainting caused by violent coughing might be explained by pneumonia.

MNS (poster here) fainted due to coughing on a road trip. It is more common than thought (he wasn't sick, nor was he drunk). It was scary to see. He stood up while coughing, then his head hit the corner of a table as he was fainting, breaking his nose.

And yes, pneumonia does linger (also bronchitis). It's a beech to get rid of (have had both in my lifetime).
 
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I understand the break in Secret Service protocol (because they were surprised and rushed by the early exit), but Mrs. Clinton's different handling of the press pool is, well, different. A suspicious person might wonder if she's intentionally staying away from the press so they can't monitor her (behaviors, health) more closely.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...intons-early-departure-from-sunday-911-event/
Once again comments are a hoot. Tin foil for everyone
 
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