Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes early

[The Rube]

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I mean, unless the other option is a woman, of course.

There is a gray area, you know. You can support a candidate without agreeing with EVERYTHING they say.

 

[bronconick]

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MNS (poster here) fainted due to coughing on a road trip. It is more common than thought (he wasn't sick, nor was he drunk). It was scary to see. He stood up while coughing, then his head hit the corner of a table as he was fainting, breaking his nose.

And yes, pneumonia does linger (also bronchitis). It's a beech to get rid of (have had both in my lifetime).

Not fun. Had that crap for months during my hospital stay.

 

[French Rage]

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Her doc sez pneumonia.

Did he/she say it in a letter with grammatical errors written quickly in the back of her limo? Because otherwise, how am I supposed to trust it.

 

[MaizeRage]

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There is a gray area, you know. You can support a candidate without agreeing with EVERYTHING they say.

Hey, I get it. Some things--treating people equally regardless of race or religion, not committing war crimes, using the 9/11 tragedy as an opportunity to brag about yourself--just aren't that important to some people.

 

[St. Clown]

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Good lord you can't be serious. Whether or not it was a smart thing to say by a candidate for president is one thing, but anyone that honestly believes the election of ANYONE for president is going to change the minds of the most extreme members of our society in 2016 is living in a fantasy world. By the time you've crossed over into the world of the white supremacists you may as well be considered a lost cause. Or at least enough so that it's a waste of time for the president to be expected to help these people see a better path. It isn't like you are trying to sell a value added tax as a replacement for a progressive income tax system to me. No amount of "reaching out" is going to make the duck dynasty beard wearing, rebel flag taped to the back window of the pick-up truck driving, 88 tats all over the hands and arms sporting mouth breathing supporter of Donald Trump see the errors of his racism.

Tell all of that to Sen. Robert Byrd, one time card carrying member of the KKK and long-heralded Democratic senator from WV.

Regardless of all that, Shrillary is failing miserably at Presidential Political Theater. When was the last time a candidate won while being on public record as making divisive remarks? The American voting public likes to pretend that we're bringing in those vaunted bridge builders, not those who you expect to tear the government to pieces before s/he's even in office. Trump may poll somewhere in the mid- to high-40's come election day, but he'll lose unless The Shrill One keeps on as she has these past few days.

 

[walrus]

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Tell all of that to Sen. Robert Byrd, one time card carrying member of the KKK and long-heralded Democratic senator from WV.

What makes you think he saw the error of his ways?

 

[Handyman]

Tell all of that to Sen. Robert Byrd, one time card carrying member of the KKK and long-heralded Democratic senator from WV.

Regardless of all that, Shrillary is failing miserably at Presidential Political Theater. When was the last time a candidate won while being on public record as making divisive remarks? The American voting public likes to pretend that we're bringing in those vaunted bridge builders, not those who you expect to tear the government to pieces before s/he's even in office. Trump may poll somewhere in the mid- to high-40's come election day, but he'll lose unless The Shrill One keeps on as she has these past few days.

Dubya said divisive stuff all the time...

As for health stuff I got pneumonia at camp when I was 11...had no clue until it was too late. What a miserable experience.

 

[St. Clown]

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Dubya said divisive stuff all the time...

Not on the campaign trail. Sadly, that's the only time when most people pay attention to what's happening in politics.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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I mean, unless the other option is a woman, of course.

I love how you try to put words in others' mouths. I'm voting for Johnson. Why? The other two are decrepit monsters.

 

[WeAreNDHockey]

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Tell all of that to Sen. Robert Byrd, one time card carrying member of the KKK and long-heralded Democratic senator from WV.

Byrd did not come to see the error of the ways of his youth because a presidential candidate "brought the country together." He also may have been the exception that proved the rule. He also could have been hypocritical and came around for political expediency. And maybe he went to his death happy he was able to pull the wool over the eyes of so many yankees with their liberal ways. I do know that for the vast, vast majority of people with views that are so filled with hatred of others because of place of birth or type of church or color of skin that they adopt a lifestyle based upon their bigotry, they are a lost cause. Only child molesters and pedophiles are more irredeemable as a class of human beings.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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Who gets pneumonia in the summer? I normally associate that malady with flu season.

 

[The Rube]

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Who gets pneumonia in the summer? I normally associate that malady with flu season.

I've had a co-worker or two get it in summer. It's not common, but can happen.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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One of the talking heads on Meet the Press today claimed that since WWII the more likable candidate has won the race for President.

They claimed put all the other stuff aside, the more likable person won every time.

I bet Charles Manson is kicking himself for not running an indy campaign.

 

[walrus]

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Who gets pneumonia in the summer? I normally associate that malady with flu season.

All you need is weakened immune system like someone taking chemo

 

[The Sicatoka]

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There is a gray area, you know. You can support a candidate without agreeing with EVERYTHING they say.

If you have to agree with everything a candidate says, soon we'll have candidates that say nothing.

 

[The Rube]

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If you have to agree with everything a candidate says, soon we'll have candidates that say nothing.

I know. Tell that to Maize and company....

 

[SJHovey]

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The thing that strikes me about HRC's comments on Trump's supporters is the contrast it creates between her and her husband. Bill Clinton would have never uttered such a statement, probably because he instinctively understands it's not true.

I bet it would be fascinating to spend an extended period of time in Little Rock talking to people who were around when the Clintons were there. Almost certainly you would be left with the impression that Bill was "one of us", someone who notwithstanding his political leanings understood his friends and neighbors in the South, while HRC was someone who was simply plotting her way out.

So long as politicians and their supporters on the left continue to accept the What's the matter with Kansas? tripe that today's conservatives are a bunch of ignorant, uneducated, bible-thumping, bigoted hicks, led around by their noses by the likes of the Koch brothers and Fox News, then they will continue to be puzzled by stories like we saw in Minnesota today that the Iron Range, of all places, is suddenly a place where Donald Trump is making inroads.

For those interested in digging a little deeper into who Donald Trump's supporters really are, what they believe, and why they vote the way they do, I commend for your reading pleasure the truly extraordinary book by Arlie Russel Hochschild, Strangers in Their Own Land. It's a quick read, but quite worth it.

 

[WeAreNDHockey]

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Who gets pneumonia in the summer? I normally associate that malady with flu season.

Pneumonia is more commonly caused by bacterial infection and not a virus, like the flu. It can also be caused by something other than a virus or bacteria. Flu is only caused by some variant of a flu virus, and while somewhat more common in the cold months in the U.S., can and frequently does any time during the year.

 

[MaizeRage]

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So long as politicians and their supporters on the left continue to accept the What's the matter with Kansas? tripe that today's conservatives are a bunch of ignorant, uneducated, bible-thumping, bigoted hicks, led around by their noses by the likes of the Koch brothers and Fox News, then they will continue to be puzzled by stories like we saw in Minnesota today that the Iron Range, of all places, is suddenly a place where Donald Trump is making inroads.

1. We're talking about the Iron Range that is predominantly white and relies on increasingly diminishing blue collar labor, correct?

2. If those assumptions are false, why is Donald Trump his party's candidate?

 

[Handyman]

Who gets pneumonia in the summer? I normally associate that malady with flu season.

I just posted I got it at camp...that was during the summer. It happens quite a bit actually. Usually it starts as a cold which kills the immune system and then you get run down. Being run down and already sick allows the pneumonia to kick in.