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Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Populi!
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop
They come from different verb roots.
delere
destruere
Wikipedia explains the Carthage phrase thusly:
The expressions would then be:
Hillary delenda est (feminine singular nominative of the gerundive)
Trump delendus est (masculine singular nominative of the gerundive)
Here's a fun rundown on the passive periphrastic, a.k.a. the moment in third year Latin when my brain exploded.
They come from different verb roots.
delere
destruere
Wikipedia explains the Carthage phrase thusly:
The expressions would then be:
Hillary delenda est (feminine singular nominative of the gerundive)
Trump delendus est (masculine singular nominative of the gerundive)
Here's a fun rundown on the passive periphrastic, a.k.a. the moment in third year Latin when my brain exploded.
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busterman62
I got a pocket full of kryptonite
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop
Who is "Good" and who is "Evil"? I'm pretty sure I know but just asking to see if the blue pill you swallowed is kicking in.
Kep,
Who is "Good" and who is "Evil"? I'm pretty sure I know but just asking to see if the blue pill you swallowed is kicking in.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop
Good is the article, Evil is the comments.
Kep,
Who is "Good" and who is "Evil"? I'm pretty sure I know but just asking to see if the blue pill you swallowed is kicking in.
Good is the article, Evil is the comments.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop
Considering who it's coming from, the murderer is "good" while the funder of the murderer is "evil".
Kep,
Who is "Good" and who is "Evil"? I'm pretty sure I know but just asking to see if the blue pill you swallowed is kicking in.
Considering who it's coming from, the murderer is "good" while the funder of the murderer is "evil".
rufus
rock and roller
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop
No. I think he began this whole campaign just to feed his ego, stick his orange face in front of the cameras. Never in a million years did he even consider the thought that he might win the nomination. He'd find some way to make some money off it, he'd have fun with it a while, and then drop out.
But the polls kept showing him leading, and so he was stuck staying in the race. And then he actually won the nomination. He's like the dog who actually catches the car. Now he doesn't know what to do with it.
If polls show him consistently losing to "that woman", and losing big, I don't see how his massive ego can handle it. he'll find some way to sabotage himself, get himself out before he gets walloped at the polls. Blame the RNC for not supporting him, or the media for not being fair, something, anything that lets him save face.
No. I think he began this whole campaign just to feed his ego, stick his orange face in front of the cameras. Never in a million years did he even consider the thought that he might win the nomination. He'd find some way to make some money off it, he'd have fun with it a while, and then drop out.
But the polls kept showing him leading, and so he was stuck staying in the race. And then he actually won the nomination. He's like the dog who actually catches the car. Now he doesn't know what to do with it.
If polls show him consistently losing to "that woman", and losing big, I don't see how his massive ego can handle it. he'll find some way to sabotage himself, get himself out before he gets walloped at the polls. Blame the RNC for not supporting him, or the media for not being fair, something, anything that lets him save face.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop
I think this is likely. Trump is the sort who runs away. You'd need a mental health professional to fully understand his arrested-at-two-years-old mindset, but an obvious observation is he doesn't want his brand to be equivalent to "Goldwater" or "McGovern."
He will bail and then always maintain he would have "won yooge."
Last Bloomberg poll has him down 49-37, with 55% of the electorate (and 63% of women) saying they will never vote for him. If Trump actually got 37% of women he would need over 63% of men to, er, compensate. My fellow Penile-Americans are dumb, but we're not that dumb.
I think this is likely. Trump is the sort who runs away. You'd need a mental health professional to fully understand his arrested-at-two-years-old mindset, but an obvious observation is he doesn't want his brand to be equivalent to "Goldwater" or "McGovern."
He will bail and then always maintain he would have "won yooge."
Last Bloomberg poll has him down 49-37, with 55% of the electorate (and 63% of women) saying they will never vote for him. If Trump actually got 37% of women he would need over 63% of men to, er, compensate. My fellow Penile-Americans are dumb, but we're not that dumb.
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busterman62
I got a pocket full of kryptonite
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop
While I concur with this, I can't come up with a way to get out of the race and still satisfy tEgo. Best I could come up with was to have the "powers that be" (Mitt?) rig the convention. Not sure if enough power left in the RNC to pull it off though.
While I concur with this, I can't come up with a way to get out of the race and still satisfy tEgo. Best I could come up with was to have the "powers that be" (Mitt?) rig the convention. Not sure if enough power left in the RNC to pull it off though.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop
Remember how Perot had that weird moment where he suspended his campaign because "the Bush family ruined my grand-daughter's wedding with helicopters"? He can say Melania has begged him to get out because the risk of assassination is yooge now that it's obvious he's going to win.
The rat bastid could really cause a Constitutional crisis, however. What if he bolts on, say, Labor Day? That would leave the GOP seven weeks to pick another nominee* and then create a campaign for that candidate.
* RNC has a standing rule that in such an event the VP nominee becomes the Presidential nominee (oddly, the DNC does not), but such things can change, particularly if Trump has picked Mike Tyson.**
** Although frankly I would pay to see that.
Remember how Perot had that weird moment where he suspended his campaign because "the Bush family ruined my grand-daughter's wedding with helicopters"? He can say Melania has begged him to get out because the risk of assassination is yooge now that it's obvious he's going to win.
The rat bastid could really cause a Constitutional crisis, however. What if he bolts on, say, Labor Day? That would leave the GOP seven weeks to pick another nominee* and then create a campaign for that candidate.
* RNC has a standing rule that in such an event the VP nominee becomes the Presidential nominee (oddly, the DNC does not), but such things can change, particularly if Trump has picked Mike Tyson.**
** Although frankly I would pay to see that.
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rufus
rock and roller
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop
Right, any explanation would beg credulity. But he'll say something like the things rigged against him, or the Republicans are voting for Hillary instead of him. As kep says, he'll claim that he would have won yuuuuuge if it weren't for the dirty tricksters working against him.
Right, any explanation would beg credulity. But he'll say something like the things rigged against him, or the Republicans are voting for Hillary instead of him. As kep says, he'll claim that he would have won yuuuuuge if it weren't for the dirty tricksters working against him.
busterman62
I got a pocket full of kryptonite
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop
I got hung up on the explanation requiring credibility. Hey, it's tDonald, it's credible simply by him saying it
I got hung up on the explanation requiring credibility. Hey, it's tDonald, it's credible simply by him saying it
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop
I vote Nunn of the above (which would have made a heck of a bumper sticker when Sam thought of running)
I vote Nunn of the above (which would have made a heck of a bumper sticker when Sam thought of running)
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop
Remember him?
I wish he and his wacky VP would jump into this race. <-- Yeah, yeah, Stockdale died in 2005, but he'd probably perform as well in a debate.
1992 2.0!
Remember him?
I wish he and his wacky VP would jump into this race. <-- Yeah, yeah, Stockdale died in 2005, but he'd probably perform as well in a debate.
1992 2.0!
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop
No point to Trump dropping out because there's always going to be polls showing he's within a statistical tie. As he's too cheap/lazy/indifferent to do in depth polling himself, he's always going to think he's just within reach, and a surge in underrepresented old white guys will put him over the top.
Trump has nothing to lose. Win, lose, or draw he's now the envy of bored rich guys the world over not named Berlusconi. The GOP has no choice but to sink or swim with him. He ain't goin' nowhere.
No point to Trump dropping out because there's always going to be polls showing he's within a statistical tie. As he's too cheap/lazy/indifferent to do in depth polling himself, he's always going to think he's just within reach, and a surge in underrepresented old white guys will put him over the top.
Trump has nothing to lose. Win, lose, or draw he's now the envy of bored rich guys the world over not named Berlusconi. The GOP has no choice but to sink or swim with him. He ain't goin' nowhere.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop
Trump over the years. If the title didn't clue you in, it's a hagiography of Trump's public politics from 1980-present.
"Young" Trump (perhaps 2004 and earlier) isn't half bad. He was right about Washington gridlock/lobbyists being a big problem. He was right about Operation Iraqi "Freedom" being a farce built on faulty and/or outright faked intelligence. His praise of Greenspan was wrong, but most people thought Greenspan was a god until 2008, so that's somewhat forgivable. In addition, "Young" Trump was never a social conservative/religious nut, and I highly doubt that he is now (you'll note his recent comments on Jenner being able to use whatever bathroom he/she wants, and his keying in on the ISLAM!!1!!1 aspect of the recent Orlando shooting, never mentioning the gay club aspect).
That said, Candidate Trump saying any controversial, and/or outright racist thing that he can get to get elected is deplorable, and he deserves all of the criticism and hatred he gets for it. I honestly believe that Trump started out last year figuring that he'd do this for fun and, more importantly, for his brand (which, coincidentally, is what ultimately saved his a55 in 1991 - he was worth more to his creditors alive than dead). He was bored, ratings for The Apprentice had been sinking for years, and this was going to be his last big publicity stunt. Seeing as how he hates W and the Bushes, maybe his original goal was to knock Jebbers out of the race (kudos to him for that), finish 2nd or 3rd, and then make a big, fussy exit about how he could've won, "if only the establishment hadn't screwed me!!!" This is an entirely plausible scenario from my point of view - it wouldn't be the first time that Trump finished second, and then blubbered about it.
Maybe he really does have issues with minorities, maybe he doesn't. The early interviews certainly don't indicate it, at least from what I can tell. It's not until Obama is elected that the Islam/Arab thing really became an issue on his radar, and given that he's a New Yawker, perhaps he hardened his views after 9/11 (this doesn't excuse him, but I don't think it's implausible). He really doesn't like the Bushes, or Obama, that much has been made clear.
At any rate, he's now stuck with the nom. I don't think he wants it, thus his renewed controversial rhetoric in the last month. I've got no sympathy for him, because he made his bed here, and now he's lying in it. It's going to be a lot of fun seeing how a man lauded as "THE Donald" is going to either embrace what's he done, or worm his way out of this mess.
And yes, I'm probably voting for our corrupt SoS, assuming Gary Johnson doesn't repent on Reaganomics (which won't happen, so...)
Trump over the years. If the title didn't clue you in, it's a hagiography of Trump's public politics from 1980-present.
"Young" Trump (perhaps 2004 and earlier) isn't half bad. He was right about Washington gridlock/lobbyists being a big problem. He was right about Operation Iraqi "Freedom" being a farce built on faulty and/or outright faked intelligence. His praise of Greenspan was wrong, but most people thought Greenspan was a god until 2008, so that's somewhat forgivable. In addition, "Young" Trump was never a social conservative/religious nut, and I highly doubt that he is now (you'll note his recent comments on Jenner being able to use whatever bathroom he/she wants, and his keying in on the ISLAM!!1!!1 aspect of the recent Orlando shooting, never mentioning the gay club aspect).
That said, Candidate Trump saying any controversial, and/or outright racist thing that he can get to get elected is deplorable, and he deserves all of the criticism and hatred he gets for it. I honestly believe that Trump started out last year figuring that he'd do this for fun and, more importantly, for his brand (which, coincidentally, is what ultimately saved his a55 in 1991 - he was worth more to his creditors alive than dead). He was bored, ratings for The Apprentice had been sinking for years, and this was going to be his last big publicity stunt. Seeing as how he hates W and the Bushes, maybe his original goal was to knock Jebbers out of the race (kudos to him for that), finish 2nd or 3rd, and then make a big, fussy exit about how he could've won, "if only the establishment hadn't screwed me!!!" This is an entirely plausible scenario from my point of view - it wouldn't be the first time that Trump finished second, and then blubbered about it.
Maybe he really does have issues with minorities, maybe he doesn't. The early interviews certainly don't indicate it, at least from what I can tell. It's not until Obama is elected that the Islam/Arab thing really became an issue on his radar, and given that he's a New Yawker, perhaps he hardened his views after 9/11 (this doesn't excuse him, but I don't think it's implausible). He really doesn't like the Bushes, or Obama, that much has been made clear.
At any rate, he's now stuck with the nom. I don't think he wants it, thus his renewed controversial rhetoric in the last month. I've got no sympathy for him, because he made his bed here, and now he's lying in it. It's going to be a lot of fun seeing how a man lauded as "THE Donald" is going to either embrace what's he done, or worm his way out of this mess.
And yes, I'm probably voting for our corrupt SoS, assuming Gary Johnson doesn't repent on Reaganomics (which won't happen, so...)
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop
In that Trump video why is there a superimposed picture of Miley Cyrus (12:40) licking something?
Half of what he says is still complete hyperbole, but it's amazing how he's gone from a pretty fair sounding, composed, mellow, well-spoken person of interest to a loud, shrill, obnoxious buffoon.
In that Trump video why is there a superimposed picture of Miley Cyrus (12:40) licking something?
Half of what he says is still complete hyperbole, but it's amazing how he's gone from a pretty fair sounding, composed, mellow, well-spoken person of interest to a loud, shrill, obnoxious buffoon.
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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop
More important, and what still bothers me most about the Trump show: How can so many people be buying it?
More important, and what still bothers me most about the Trump show: How can so many people be buying it?
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop
They are buying it because he is loud and in their face. He is a distraction.
Oh and some people are angry, bigoted spiteful people with small weenises
They are buying it because he is loud and in their face. He is a distraction.
Oh and some people are angry, bigoted spiteful people with small weenises
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