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Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Populi!

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BassAle said:
That's your opinion, as someone with no legal background. People with much more knowledge than you on the subject have determined otherwise.
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There are legal analyses out there in the net wild which compare this to other actual cases. The gist is to get an indictment you need everything Hillary did plus indicators of an intent to damage our security in exchange for compensation (Russian mistress, off shore deposits, expensive drug habit, etc). This did not rise to the level of prosecution.
 
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I was very amused by legal scholar and GOP intellectual heavy weight Paul freakin' Ryan saying he doesn't question the FBI, but they should have recommended prosecution??? Ummm...dumba ss, that means you are questioning the FBI as either being corrupt or stupid, apparently based on your background as a career government hack as opposed to having any legal background. :rolleyes: I won't hold my breath for the press to call him on that however.

This is an archiving issue. If you get audited and you don't have the proper record storage in place, you get mentioned in the audit and your supervisor tells you to clean up your act. You don't get hauled off in leg irons.
 
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If there was no prosecution in the 2007 White House email debacle (where millions of emails were destroyed instead of turned over), then I don't see how Hillary was going to be prosecuted for anything here. It's generally assumed that once you reach a certain level in the government, you won't face actual consequences for anything. And that's assuming you did a jailable offense to begin with.

Nixon never went to jail, for crying out loud.
 
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Although one does wonder how screwed America is that our best bet for keeping The Insane Orangutan out of office is to elect a person who, at a lower level of government work, would have had their security clearance revoked over this.
 
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"Avoiding prosecution isn't the standard I was shooting for." -- Matt Santos
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Nixon never went to jail, for crying out loud.
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Nixon might actually have gone to jail of not for the quid pro quo with Ford. Nixon's actions were, by any reasonable standard, criminal.
 
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ticapnews said:
"Avoiding prosecution isn't the standard I was shooting for." -- Matt Santos
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In a witch hunt that is the standard. When you are the target of a political assassin your only goal is to duck. The niceties can follow later.
 
Kepler said:
There are legal analyses out there in the net wild which compare this to other actual cases. The gist is to get an indictment you need everything Hillary did plus indicators of an intent to damage our security in exchange for compensation (Russian mistress, off shore deposits, expensive drug habit, become president, etc). This did not rise to the level of prosecution.
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ScoobyDoo said:
So, the indictment was their ace in the hole? Wow, that party is ****ed up.
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The public may be tribal but I would think even casual conservatives are at this point "you have to do something besides fishing expeditions and voting to defund Obamacare 50 times."

They went all-in on trickle down and neoconservative foreign policy. Both have been exposed as unmitigated disasters for the country. They have, literally, NO other thought and their rabid anti-intellectualism has destroyed any potential sources of new ideas. They're selling buggy whips to a nation of car owners.
 
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Mookie is seeing the blue oyster cult's 'burning for you' video for the first time right now.
His question is "how did this never make a beavis & butthead episode?!?!?
 
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Either Trump's campaign is so stupid they can't fill out a form correctly, or there is embezzlement openly taking place.

Since its July 2015 quarterly filing, the Trump campaign has disbursed 239 nontaxed mileage payments to 82 individuals for a total of $237,555.30, and those payments "raise a lot of questions," according to Noble.
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Using the government rate of 57.5 cents a mile for 2015, that would come out to 413,139.7 miles of personal vehicle use for work being reimbursed. Or, those 82 people have driven their personal vehicles an average of 5,038.3 miles for the Trump campaign in the last year.

Yes, I am aware the government rate for mileage dropped for 2016 to 54.0 cents per mile. Which means the average mileage per person is HIGHER.
 
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Rover said:
Ya know, GOP hearings regarding Clinton never seem to go well for them. Could it be Paul Ryan is really just a dumbfuk after all?
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Paul Ryan is a 46-year old man who still believes in Randian economics and philosophy which appeal to a 16-year old boy. It's not that he's dumb, exactly. It's more that he and his entire movement were prematurely stunted and live as lifelong adolescents.

Somebody described the grand finale of the Benghazi hearings as an 11-hour infomercial for why Hillary should be president.

The GOP is used to fighting patsies like Dukakis and Kerry. When they get in the ring with Obama or either of the Clintons they are hopelessly outclassed.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Although one does wonder how screwed America is that our best bet for keeping The Insane Orangutan out of office is to elect a person who, at a lower level of government work, would have had their security clearance revoked over this.
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This is exactly the way I feel. What HRC did was never criminal, and as of right now hasn't even cost the country any sort of breach of security, at least as far as we know. But, it was done because either, a) she and her staff made basic entry level government employee stupid mistakes that disqualify you to serve as even a ranger at a national park, let alone POTUS, or b) she wanted her emails, etc..., off the grid in terms of general government access. Basically, she wanted it so that her government communications were under her and only her control, in which case why would anyone ever trust her. But go ahead, you guys want her, put her in charge.
 
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