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Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

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Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

It doesn't take much. I'd believe those numbers around here if you replaced 'Islam' with 'being black' because a few people blocked some traffic a couple times.

Hey, maybe atheists are finally less demonized than Muslims?

No?

I'll show myself out.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

It's pretty sad that the Obama administration can't even get the 9/11 Health Care funding made permanent for first responders after all the hurdles they put into the 5 year original bill were met. No fraud. Proof of link to the toxic air from ground zero. Etc.

We have a completely dysfunctional government if something as simple as that can't be passed by Itch Clown and Crying Ryan.

But, what else is knew.

How you liking that funding bill?

Meanwhile Trump leads the polls for their party and his best idea is shutting down travel and business around the globe for a billion people.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

Are you saying Sanders is just another politician? :mad: I'd have someone start your car for you tomorrow morning... :D

Vince Foster wishes he could respond to this post... ;)

I'm pretty sure* mookie was kidding, in that Sanders is responding to Trump who is the one doing the politicizing in the first place. Not to mention that if you're not going to "politicize" an issue that revolves around civil liberties, safety, and basic national values I'm not sure what you're supposed to politicize. :p

* Insofar as I can follow mookie's rhetorical style on a good day, he is pretty good at capturing the absurdity of what passes for our political discourse.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

Not sure you can beat this for comedy. Trump's fascism is the fault of... wait for it... well, it's the Federalist, so guess. :p:rolleyes:

The people who write this stuff are writing because it's lucrative. But those who believe it are a wondrous lot indeed. Petted with gratuitous references to Heraclitus and Hegel they can preen on themselves as intellectuals, all while just mouthing a more effete and less sincere version of the "agrarian" (ahem, evangy racist) knuckleheadedness they take such pains to separate themselves from.

This is it, folks -- the main vein of peacocks who take a different cognitive staircase yet still wind up at the same outhouse as the Palins. Anybody with a tier 1 education can churn this stuff out by the yard without firing a synapse. I wonder if they're hiring. :)
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

Trump has a long way to go if his goal is to remake Triumph of the Will.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

Could Rahm Emanuel torpedo the Democratic Party's chances next fall? Most of you cross post/read the Cops thread, and there is a HUGE implosion (super-nova-esque) reaching critical mass regarding the Chicago PD and their handling of suspects and investigations.

Or, are these issues just being chalked up as "Chiraq Problems" and largely ignored by the national parties?
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

Could Rahm Emanuel torpedo the Democratic Party's chances next fall? Most of you cross post/read the Cops thread, and there is a HUGE implosion (super-nova-esque) reaching critical mass regarding the Chicago PD and their handling of suspects and investigations.

Or, are these issues just being chalked up as "Chiraq Problems" and largely ignored by the national parties?

"Forget it, Jake; it's Chinatown."
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

Good piece about latent fascistic tendencies in the American right in general, and how they are manifesting with Trump in particular.

What Trump has done is wink, nudge, and generally encouraged spontaneous violence as a response to his critics. This includes his winking and nudging at those “enthusiastic supporters” who committed anti-Latino hate crimes, his encouragement of the people at a campaign appearance who assaulted a Latino protester, and most recently, his endorsement of the people who “maybe should have roughed up” the “disgusting” Black Lives Matter protester who interrupted his speech.

That’s a clearly fascistic response. It also helps us understand why Trump is an extraordinarily dangerous right-wing populist demagogue, and not a genuine, in-the-flesh fascist.

A serious fascist would have called upon not just the crowd to respond with violence, but also his paramilitary allies to respond with retaliatory strikes. Trump didn’t do that.

That, in a tiny nutshell, is an example of the problem with Trump’s fascism: He is not really an ideologue, acting out of a rigid adherence to a consistent worldview, as all fascists are. Trump’s only real ideology is the Worship of the Donald, and he will do and say anything that appeals to the lowest common denominator of the American body politic in order to attract their support – the nation’s id, the near-feral segment that breathes and lives on fear and paranoia and hatred.

There’s no question these supporters bring a singular, visceral energy to the limited universe of the GOP primary, though I don’t know anyone who expects that such a campaign can survive the oxygen and exposure of a general election. Indeed, it is in many signs an indication of the doom that is descending upon a Republican Party in freefall, flailing about in a death spiral, that it is finally resorting to a campaign as nakedly fascistic as Trump’s in its attempts to secure the presidency.

This is why Trump has never called upon the shock troops of a paramilitary wing for support, and why he has always kept an arm’s-length distance from the white nationalists and neo-Nazis who have become some of his most enthusiastic backers. He isn’t really one of them.

What he is, as Berlet has explained elsewhere, is a classic right-wing nativist populist demagogue: “His ideology and rhetoric are much more comparable to the European populist radical right, akin to Jean-Marie Le Pen’s National Front, the Danish People’s Party or Vladimir Zhirinovsky’s Liberal Democratic Party of Russia. All of them use the common radical right rhetoric of nativism, authoritarianism and populism.”

Of course, it’s also important to understand that fascism, in fact, is a subspecies of right-wing populism, very similar to the Klan in nature – that is, its malignant, metastasized version, crazed in its insatiable lust for power, fueled by fear and hatred, and fed by the blood of its vulnerable targets.

Trump is not fascist primarily because he lacks any kind of coherent, or even semi-coherent, ideology. What he represents instead is the kind of id-driven feral politics common to the radical right, a sort of gut-level reactionarism that lacks the rigor and absolutism, the demand for ideological purity, that are characteristic of full-bore fascism.

That does not, however, mean he is any less dangerous to American democracy.

The whole article is good, but the portion on "Producerism" about 3/4 of the way through is dead on.
 
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Even the lamestream media, normally afraid of taking on Republicans, has chimed in on a good point, which is why don't ANY of the GOP contenders come out and say they will not support Trump if he's the nominee?

I can write the speech for them at the mythical press conference. Picture Cruz-Rubio-Jebbers!-Christie-Kasich-etc giving this address:

"Trump's proposal to exclude entry into this country based on religion is as un-American a proposal as has ever been made by a major candidate in living memory. Like many in my party I have sat by on the sidelines and not engaged Trump in his many unhinged declarations in the hope that he would flame out. I now realize that may not happen. Therefore I declare that I will not support or vote for Donald Trump for President even if he receives my party's nomination. I respect the will of the voters, but in good conscience I can't put party loyalty over the good of the country."

EDIT: Yup... https://politicalwire.com/2015/12/09/most-gop-voters-favor-trumps-proposal-on-muslims/
 
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Donald Trump calls on Bill Gates to "close up the internet."...
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...speechless.
 
Even the lamestream media, normally afraid of taking on Republicans, has chimed in on a good point, which is why don't ANY of the GOP contenders come out and say they will not support Trump if he's the nominee?

I can write the speech for them at the mythical press conference. Picture Cruz-Rubio-Jebbers!-Christie-Kasich-etc giving this address:

"Trump's proposal to exclude entry into this country based on religion is as un-American a proposal as has ever been made by a major candidate in living memory. Like many in my party I have sat by on the sidelines and not engaged Trump in his many unhinged declarations in the hope that he would flame out. I now realize that may not happen. Therefore I declare that I will not support or vote for Donald Trump for President even if he receives my party's nomination. I respect the will of the voters, but in good conscience I can't put party loyalty over the good of the country."

EDIT: Yup... https://politicalwire.com/2015/12/09/most-gop-voters-favor-trumps-proposal-on-muslims/

Rover miss howie carr this morning?!? :p
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

Even the lamestream media, normally afraid of taking on Republicans, has chimed in on a good point, which is why don't ANY of the GOP contenders come out and say they will not support Trump if he's the nominee?

I can write the speech for them at the mythical press conference. Picture Cruz-Rubio-Jebbers!-Christie-Kasich-etc giving this address:

"Trump's proposal to exclude entry into this country based on religion is as un-American a proposal as has ever been made by a major candidate in living memory. Like many in my party I have sat by on the sidelines and not engaged Trump in his many unhinged declarations in the hope that he would flame out. I now realize that may not happen. Therefore I declare that I will not support or vote for Donald Trump for President even if he receives my party's nomination. I respect the will of the voters, but in good conscience I can't put party loyalty over the good of the country."

EDIT: Yup... https://politicalwire.com/2015/12/09/most-gop-voters-favor-trumps-proposal-on-muslims/

This is why they won't do that.

You know. Principle. :p :rolleyes:

Boy, has Trump found a home.
 
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