Campaign 2014: The Epic Struggle To Win The Senate And Change Nothing

[joecct]

I actually have much more sympathy for that position than you'd expect. It's just the other side is such a transparent bunch of thieves, and the havoc they have wreaked on our country and values since 1980 has been so brutal and tawdry, that I am for restoring our normal American priorities. I come from the middle class so I am biased.

Separate, if you can, the government in Washington from the ones in Annapolis. At least there has been turnover in DC.

 

[joecct]

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Who says Fox News does not have a sense of humor?
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[SJHovey]

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It's so telling that she would feel comfortable enough to post it. That makes it likely she's so surrounded by it that she didn't even feel the need to speak in RNC code. It's pervasive among the hillbillies here; out in the sticks it must be insane.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant. The internet is really scary in that it shows the extent of the plague, but in the long run it helps. The more these people talk, the more they drive humans with functioning brain cells from them. Social media has made it much harder for the GOP to speak out of both sides of their mouths, whipping up the nutbars while disavowing them to the mainstream.

I think this story shows the true downside of social media, of twitter, facebook and the like.

In every neighborhood of every community in this country there are people just as crazy, if not more crazy, than this lady. The locals all know who they are. They see them at the local cafe or bar or grocery store. You give them a wide berth, or, if you like their kind of crazy, maybe you elect them to be dogcatcher or registrar of deeds or something.

But now it hits twitter or facebook or some other social media and the next thing you know it's on CNN. Do I really need to know the registrar of deeds in some backwater county of Missouri is crazy? I probably would have guessed that anyway, but I don't really care. She has no impact on me. Or on 99.999999999% of the rest of the country.

Exposing her views to the world outside of those who have to deal with her doesn't help. You can't cure crazy. We don't get to vote her out of office. Instead, we give her 15 minutes of fame, or infamy, which just encourages the next crazy person to spout even crazier stuff. I'm all in favor of protecting the right of crazy people to speak, just so those around them can be sure they know who the crazy people are. But that doesn't mean I should by them a bullhorn.

 

[Kepler]

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I think this story shows the true downside of social media, of twitter, facebook and the like.

In every neighborhood of every community in this country there are people just as crazy, if not more crazy, than this lady. The locals all know who they are. They see them at the local cafe or bar or grocery store. You give them a wide berth, or, if you like their kind of crazy, maybe you elect them to be dogcatcher or registrar of deeds or something.

I heard a Toronto comedian do a great bit about just this. "Of course we have more crazy people in our city, because we have more people. The percentage of crazy people is the same everywhere, so if you live in a small town there's still the same percentage of crazy people but everybody knows who they are. So when you're having the town meeting to plan the Fall Festival one of the agenda items is, OK, what do we do about Bob? Resolved: nobody is permitted to serve Bob alcohol until after 9. Next item..."

The internet is the world's biggest city, so not only does it have all the crazies, but it gives them the most anonymity.

 

[Kepler]

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Interesting chart.

Let's say the current 50/50 split is driven by GOP support as follows:

(.78 * .57) + (.22 * .25) = .500

All other things being equal, that projects to:

(.58 * .57) + (.42 * .25) = .435

"A new approach is necessary."

 

[mookie1995]

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my rasmussen email has charlie baker up on marcia coakley 48-46 with 2% going to wackos and 5% undecided.

mookie ain't buying it!

 

[Kepler]

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This is pretty depressing.

Not that Bat Boy is losing, but that the polling tracks the ad spending perfectly. "The best democracy money can buy."

 

[GrinCDXX]

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This is pretty depressing.

Not that Bat Boy is losing, but that the polling tracks the ad spending perfectly. "The best democracy money can buy."

Your post led me to google Rick Scott--I hadn't been aware that #fangate happened yesterday. That is unbelievable.

 

[Kepler]

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The Fifth aint even trying to hide it.

Gun permit -- that's a valid ID.

Student ID -- nope.

Gee. I wonder what their motivation could be?

District Judge Nelva Gonzales Ramos had called the Texas law akin to an “unconstitutional poll tax” because of the steep costs of obtaining state-sanctioned identification for voters who found themselves without an ID the law deemed proper. Evidence presented before the court showed that more than 600,000 Texas voters had lost ballot access since the ID statute took effect.

Advocates of the law say it is necessary to counteract voter fraud, even though it has not been a major problem to date. Among the 62 million votes cast in Texas over the last 14 years, there have been only two documented cases of in-person fraud, according to court records.

 

[Old Pio]

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The Fifth aint even trying to hide it.

Gun permit -- that's a valid ID.

Student ID -- nope.

Gee. I wonder what their motivation could be?

Simple. The motivation is to limit participation in elections to those who are eligible. And only one per customer, please. Tell me again why Democrats (with much fanfare) passed Motor Voter during the Clinton administration. But now, going to the DMV is an insurmountable burden. . .at least for black folks. Just once it would be nice for one of you guys to admit the truth: the tidal wave of inner city voters every election day is an important part of your "strategy." For instance, in 2000 there was a lot of yammering about Jeb Bush's alleged efforts at "voter suppression" (by which Democrats apparently mean enforcing the law). Yet the black turnout in Florida was 60% greater in 2000 than in '96 and very nearly elected Elijah the Wooden Indian. Jeb was entitled to a refund, IMO.

Bottom line? You think you've got an advantage in inner cities and any change in the status quo would work to your disadvantage. And I agree. That's what it's all about. And none of you has the guts to simply admit it.

 

[ericredaxe]

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Bottom line? You think you've got an advantage in inner cities and any change in the status quo would work to your disadvantage. And I agree. That's what it's all about. And none of you has the guts to simply admit it.

You may be on to something here.

Republicans think they are at a disadvantage in the inner cities and a change that could make it more difficult for inner city people to vote might work to their advantage. That is what it is all about isn't it? And none of you have the guts to simply admit it.

 

[Rover]

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Simple. The motivation is to limit participation in elections to those who are eligible. And only one per customer, please. Tell me again why Democrats (with much fanfare) passed Motor Voter during the Clinton administration. But now, going to the DMV is an insurmountable burden. . .at least for black folks. Just once it would be nice for one of you guys to admit the truth: the tidal wave of inner city voters every election day is an important part of your "strategy." For instance, in 2000 there was a lot of yammering about Jeb Bush's alleged efforts at "voter suppression" (by which Democrats apparently mean enforcing the law). Yet the black turnout in Florida was 60% greater in 2000 than in '96 and very nearly elected Elijah the Wooden Indian. Jeb was entitled to a refund, IMO.

Bottom line? You think you've got an advantage in inner cities and any change in the status quo would work to your disadvantage. And I agree. That's what it's all about. And none of you has the guts to simply admit it.

But Opie, if these people are legally eligible to vote, they should in fact be able to do so without a de facto poll tax. Whether the live in inner cities or gated communities. For someone who spends his few remaining days stuck in the 60's, you ought to know that lesson already.

PS - Is there any truth to the rumor you wrote in Bull Connor's name for President last election?

 

[Kepler]

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The difference is the left is not trying to disenfranchise righty voters but the right is trying to disenfranchise lefty voters. That's pretty much as unconstitutional as you can get, since the right to vote precedes all other political rights.

Every once in a while the mask slips.

The one good thing that's come out of this discussion is that Pio has admitted: "yes, we cannot win anymore without cheating, so we are cheating." Not that anybody didn't know that, but it's good to see they are at least out in the open about it now.

 

[joecct]

The difference is the left is not trying to disenfranchise righty voters but the right is trying to disenfranchise lefty voters. That's pretty much as unconstitutional as you can get, since the right to vote precedes all other political rights.

Every once in a while the mask slips.

The one good thing that's come out of this discussion is that Pio has admitted: "yes, we cannot win anymore without cheating, so we are cheating." Not that anybody didn't know that, but it's good to see they are at least out in the open about it now.

But zombies are overwhelmingly democrat.

 

[Kepler]

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But zombies are overwhelmingly democrat.

Ever been to a Teahadist rally?

 

[joecct]

Ever been to a Teahadist rally?

Yes. And none of them were dead.

 

[Kepler]

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Yes. And none of them were dead.

Outside, perhaps.

 

[Kepler]

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Good news for the bad guys.

Through June 30, the Democratic incumbent Mark Udall of Colorado had raised $7.9 million in individual contributions to $3.2 million for his Republican opponent, Cory Gardner. In Iowa through the same date, Democrat Bruce Braley had raised almost three times as much ($5.6 million) as his opponent, Republican Joni Ernst ($2.1 million).

But the latest numbers show Republican fundraising catching up with, and sometimes surpassing, Democratic totals in Iowa, Colorado and other key states.

 

[Kepler]

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And bad news for everybody.

Just what we need. Now there will be arms races for judgeships.

It will get worse before it gets better.

 

[GrinCDXX]

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And bad news for everybody.

Just what we need. Now there will be arms races for judgeships.

It will get worse before it gets better.

This has been happening in Montana as well. There's a supreme court judge who is being targeted for removal by a few PAC's. They have been quite aggressive.

edit: I see toward the end of the article they do mention other states that have been targeted by this same group, Montana included.