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I think you’re wrong. This is a bunch of disaffected youts with $600 stim checks, a Robin Hood account, and a lot of time

I could be wrong. I just think you give them too much credit.
 
aparch said:
CNBC said that Discord booted an organized group from WSB from their servers because of repeated hate speech violations.

I wanted to not believe Kepler when he mentioned the bored "incels" at the helm, but he might be right.
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Oh there is definitely that element...that is why I am calling them Dude Bros there is a lot of misogyny in what I read.

But dx it isnt JUST youts...at least not as many as you might think. I mean I guess it depends what you consider a yout I would guess the mean average is mid to late 20s. Younger than me but not exactly K-Pop Stans. (whatever the hell that means ;^) )

As I said before I don't go on reddit so maybe there (and likely on Discord) the real twats come out but on Twitter they seem to know what they are talking about. They aren't Qucumbers throwing out words to sound smart and wasting money on crap. They talk like the people I was taking classes with who were roughly the same age. Do not underestimate them they aren't blowing their stimulus on this...well I should say the main people aren't. The followers that might be a different story.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
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dxmnkd316 said:
If WSB is 2-3 million large, that’s no longer possible to be a certain archetype. Too big. That’s a diverse mix.
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I am sure we will find out soon enough. As they get co-opted (or get super Dude Bro arrogant) they will let us know everything we need to. There is a lot of strange people out there trying to win this type of game...thinking they can write the perfect program or algorithm to get an edge. Problem is...no matter what in the end the house always wins.

That is why it is going to be fun to watch. If you are right (and CNBC and so on) they will collapse HARD. Maybe not now but they will make a stupid play and get crushed under the weight of it. I know I wont shed a TON of tears over that because we have enough Dude Bro D-bags around. If I am closer to right then they will pick and choose their spots and win more often than they lose which will tick off the Street like right now and, again, I will not shed any tears over that either.

It is eternal battle between arrogance and analysis. Personally, I cheer for whiskey ;^)
 
This is win/win because if they somehow manage to score a hit it will be finance creeps jumping out of windows, and if instead it's just the caped crusaders left holding the bag it will be a bunch of loser bros you wouldn't speak to if paid.
 
Kepler said:
This is win/win because if they somehow manage to score a hit it will be finance creeps jumping out of windows, and if instead it's just the caped crusaders left holding the bag it will be a bunch of loser bros you wouldn't speak to if paid.
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It’s like watching a Notre Dame - USC game. Always satisfying, since one of them loses.
 
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Back when I was in school, back in the 90s and before the tech bubble had fully bubbled over, a historically normal P/E ratio for the S&P 500 was around 16, but if you look now it's about 34. If you look at when recessions have hit, the P/E ratios for the market have been much higher than that. As of 09/30/20, the P/E for the market as a whole was 34.24. Right around the time a recession hits, and shortly before it, we see that ratio get high.

Wikipedia has a chart going back to 1988. You should be able to spot a trend, if you can recall when recessions hit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price–earnings_ratio
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S&P 500 PE back to 1870.
 
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S&P 500 PE back to 1870.
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Interesting! I know the prices didn’t shoot through the roof in May 2009, so it’s shocking to see just how bad the earnings must have been.

Speaking of PE ratios, does anyone have a source where I can get a list of the current PE ratios for each individual company in the S&P 500? I have a bottle of scotch riding on a bet that depends on that data to resolve. When I made the bet, I assumed it would be relatively easy to find that info, but I have come up empty so far. (Bet is whether Tesla’s PE will come within 1 standard deviation of the S&P 500 average at any time before 2027 - 10 years from when we made the bet).
 
LynahFan said:
Interesting! I know the prices didn’t shoot through the roof in May 2009, so it’s shocking to see just how bad the earnings must have been.

Speaking of PE ratios, does anyone have a source where I can get a list of the current PE ratios for each individual company in the S&P 500? I have a bottle of scotch riding on a bet that depends on that data to resolve. When I made the bet, I assumed it would be relatively easy to find that info, but I have come up empty so far. (Bet is whether Tesla’s PE will come within 1 standard deviation of the S&P 500 average at any time before 2027 - 10 years from when we made the bet).
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Your best bet is to find the Morningstar api and do an excel or access query.
 
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