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Business, Economics, and Taxes: Capitalism. Yay? >=(

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Kepler said:
Pilots used to (60s, 70s) have legendary perks -- pretty much free travel and lodging all over the world. I don't know if the MBAs destroyed that when they destroyed the airline industry.
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A friend of mine's husband flies for Delta. He has been making bank lately with the travel demand up and the pilot supply down. Delta has a phone tree to call for pilots when they have a shortage, basically on an auction sort of basis. Who will take this flight for 1.5x rate? Double time? Triple time? He can make as much as 8 grand for a single, short-haul domestic flight. Not a bad morning's wages.
 
Kepler said:
Pilots used to (60s, 70s) have legendary perks -- pretty much free travel and lodging all over the world. I don't know if the MBAs destroyed that when they destroyed the airline industry.
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During COVID, I remember my cousin posting some of the rooms he was getting while travelling. He got a suite at a hotel in Dubai that was the entire floor just because it was available. Of course that didn't come out of his pocket
 
Proud2baLaker said:
During COVID, I remember my cousin posting some of the rooms he was getting while travelling. He got a suite at a hotel in Dubai that was the entire floor just because it was available. Of course that didn't come out of his pocket
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This happened to me once and it was laughable and wonderful. My GF and I were on a trip through Nova Scotia and we pulled into a Cape Breton hotel at about 2 a.m. It turned out to be a ridiculously snooty resort. Some Canadian minister had just left, after some Aspen-like conference, and they gave us her "room" -- which was an entire suite. There were four rooms including one with an enormous and stupid pedestal hot tub and fridge stocked with their champagne, that looked like something out of an OG crib, until 8 a.m., for a few hundred dollars. We stayed up all night Living the Life. It was so dumb and fun.
 
Only story I have like that is my mom basically ran the national sales meetings for a fairly large company. She was an admin for one of the SVPs or EVPs, I can't remember. Anyways. They had their sales meeting in St Petersburg/Tampa one year and they were staying at the Don Cesar. Her boss was the top dog at the conference so of course he got the nicest room. He said he wouldn't be spending much time in it and my mom deserved something nice for all the insane hours and hard work she put in.

She got the penthouse suite to herself for a week. Which, at the time (maybe it still is) was a two-floor suite. Nowhere near the cost of the top end suites at like Waikiki or Dubai, but still. Pretty cool.
 
I once got a Jacuzzi room at a Hilton in Southgate, MI because the smoke detector kept chirping in my original room (low battery/maintenance warning) and no maintenance staff were in that night (Aug 2021 so still some COVID fallout). I am 1000% sure the jacuzzi room had hookers & blow in it at some point in it's lifespan, lol.

The extra space/openness was cool to work with and rig fishing gear though.
 
Kepler said:
Pilots used to (60s, 70s) have legendary perks -- pretty much free travel and lodging all over the world. I don't know if the MBAs destroyed that when they destroyed the airline industry.
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The pilots get all the hotel pts, and they fly standby for free on their carrier. In uniform they can fly any airline including fed ex and ups . As a parent I can fly standby for nothing also.
 
walrus said:
The pilots get all the hotel pts, and they fly standby for free on their carrier. In uniform they can fly any airline including fed ex and ups . As a parent I can fly standby for nothing also.
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They usually have ground transportation too unless they’re at their “home” domicile.

AFAIK, if you work for one of the major airlines, passenger or cargo, you get pretty good pay and benefits. It’s the regional airlines and smaller carriers where things are pretty s-.
 
Jimjamesak said:
They usually have ground transportation too unless they’re at their “home” domicile.

AFAIK, if you work for one of the major airlines, passenger or cargo, you get pretty good pay and benefits. It’s the regional airlines and smaller carriers where things are pretty s-.
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Do they get to charge door to door? Our OCONUS TDYs had that, so if say you flew to BFE Central Africa you were on the clock from the moment the Uber stopped at your house to the moment you walked through the door in whatever green(ish) zone hotel they put you up in. An hour to the airport, two hours through security and waiting, 11 hours of flight, 3 hours over some goat path to a forward deployment, probably with a 2-hour break in there for food or to fix the inevitable broken axle while hoping guys with machetes didn't pick that moment to jump outta the bushes.

We also had the rule that the charge code was set by the first minute of the trip, so a lot of guys just happened to catch flights just after midnight, so the entire trip was at 2x late shift.
 
Kepler said:
Do they get to charge door to door? Our OCONUS TDYs had that, so if say you flew to BFE Central Africa you were on the clock from the moment the Uber stopped at your house to the moment you walked through the door in whatever green(ish) zone hotel they put you up in. An hour to the airport, two hours through security and waiting, 11 hours of flight, 3 hours over some goat path to a forward deployment, probably with a 2-hour break in there for food or to fix the inevitable broken axle while hoping guys with machetes didn't pick that moment to jump outta the bushes.

We also had the rule that the charge code was set by the first minute of the trip, so a lot of guys just happened to catch flights just after midnight, to the entire trip was at 2x late shift.
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I think it depends on the airline and whatever the CBA with the union defines. AFAIK I think it’s from when they report in at the airport to when they leave the next airport.

I’m not entirely versed on how it works for them. I know there’s plenty of pilot YouTubers that have videos explaining a lot though.
 
Jimjamesak said:
I think it depends on the airline and whatever the CBA with the union defines. AFAIK I think it’s from when they report in at the airport to when they leave the next airport.

I’m not entirely versed on how it works for them. I know there’s plenty of pilot YouTubers that have videos explaining a lot though.
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For us it was by contract, so guys who traveled together would have wildly different compensation.
 
Jimjamesak said:
They usually have ground transportation too unless they're at their "home" domicile.
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The ground transportation is usually the crew bus to/from whatever airport hotel they were put up in after their final segment of the day. A few years back, there were stories about Emirates trying to lure experienced American and European widebody pilots to Dubai with tons of fringe perks. That included paying for all ground transit to/from DXB in a private "black car", door-to-door, for every trip they were on duty. I wonder if they're still doing that.
 
Jimjamesak said:
They usually have ground transportation too unless they’re at their “home” domicile.

AFAIK, if you work for one of the major airlines, passenger or cargo, you get pretty good pay and benefits. It’s the regional airlines and smaller carriers where things are pretty s-.
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With the pilot shortage regionals pay well also with the same bennies. Small carriers I have no idea.
 
Oh my god. I just saw the best nickname for Elon that I'm sure everyone has already seen

Phony Stark


Anyways, Tesla is getting sued in California in a class action suit that claims an OTA update that reduced range by 20% and some owners had to shell out $15k for a new battery.
 
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