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BU Season Thread II: The Resurgence

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defkit said:
Hmmmm....so Hockey East Online has the second assist on the GWG to Eichel, whereas USCHO has Oksanen. I just assumed it was changed since they announced Eichel at the game but USCHO had it different. Who's box score is official? I wouldn't care if it didn't give him 50.
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It was announced Eichel at the game, given to Oksanen on the box score, and changed yesterday to Eichel which seems like the correct call. It has since been corrected on USCHO.
 
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brassbonanza said:
It's Eichel, re BU SID.
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SID Brian Kelley tweeted: "Initial entry had Oksanen. After video review, it was changed to Eichel. Hockey East website always has most up-to-date box."

He also noted that Eichel is the first freshman to hit the 50 mark since Amonte's 58 in 1989-90.
 
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Rogie21 said:
SID Brian Kelley tweeted: "Initial entry had Oksanen. After video review, it was changed to Eichel. Hockey East website always has most up-to-date box."

He also noted that Eichel is the first freshman to hit the 50 mark since Amonte's 58 in 1989-90.
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Eichel is now 5th all-time in freshman scoring and tied for 12th in rookie scoring. His PPG is still 3rd for freshmen, but he has dropped down into a tie for 18th for rookies. Here is the updated list.

I'm a bit worried about Eichel's scoring and hope he can turn it around. The Beanpot final was his 4th straight game with a single assist, the longest he has gone without a multi-point game this season. In those same 4 games BU is 1-2-1 with the win in overtime after losing a 2 goal lead in the third. Tony Amonte had only 24 points entering February, then exploded in February (14 points) and March (20 points) to lead BU to the NCAA semi-finals. Eichel entered February with 40 points and has had only 10 so far for the month. I know he has more pressure on him than Amonte did, but BU needs him to step-up his game at this point in the season and I haven't seen it yet.

Sean
 
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Sean Pickett said:
Eichel is now 5th all-time in freshman scoring and tied for 12th in rookie scoring. His PPG is still 3rd for freshmen, but he has dropped down into a tie for 18th for rookies. Here is the updated list.

I'm a bit worried about Eichel's scoring and hope he can turn it around. The Beanpot final was his 4th straight game with a single assist, the longest he has gone without a multi-point game this season. In those same 4 games BU is 1-2-1 with the win in overtime after losing a 2 goal lead in the third. Tony Amonte had only 24 points entering February, then exploded in February (14 points) and March (20 points) to lead BU to the NCAA semi-finals. Eichel entered February with 40 points and has had only 10 so far for the month. I know he has more pressure on him than Amonte did, but BU needs him to step-up his game at this point in the season and I haven't seen it yet.

Sean
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I think he's trying to do too much with the puck. Thinking too much. Got one rebound lost in his skates - that never happened before! - and there was one play early on in the first where he was coming at Witt from the goalie's right and took a shot, when he had NU all on top of him, and a streaking BU player (Grizz?) coming down the slot.


Or, as the critics would say, he's spending too much time on Snapchat.
 
Beanpot

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The championship game was the shortest overtime game in the history of the Beanpot, giving BU the record for winning both the longest and shortest overtime games in the tournament in the same year. Here is the list of all Beanpot overtime results.

Sean
 
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mookie1995 said:
good thing for dave emma he predated video :D
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I'm enjoying these little jabs that have been popping up recently.:)

Should Paul Kariya be in the same group??:D

Maybe someone who has time to kill can look this up - I believe that magical season for Maine started with 2 games against a pushover like Alabama-Birmingham, and I thought those games were considered exhibition games, because UAB wasn't even Division 1 at the time (?). Kariya had a crazy amount of points in those two games (pretty sure he hit double digits). At the end of the year, I thought I saw some stats list that had him at 89 points, not 100. And I wondered if the difference was how those two games were being counted or not counted.

Amazing player, the only forward who I think looked as good as Eichel does at 18 years old.
 
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Sean Pickett said:
Eichel is now 5th all-time in freshman scoring and tied for 12th in rookie scoring. His PPG is still 3rd for freshmen, but he has dropped down into a tie for 18th for rookies. Here is the updated list.

I'm a bit worried about Eichel's scoring and hope he can turn it around. The Beanpot final was his 4th straight game with a single assist, the longest he has gone without a multi-point game this season. In those same 4 games BU is 1-2-1 with the win in overtime after losing a 2 goal lead in the third. Tony Amonte had only 24 points entering February, then exploded in February (14 points) and March (20 points) to lead BU to the NCAA semi-finals. Eichel entered February with 40 points and has had only 10 so far for the month. I know he has more pressure on him than Amonte did, but BU needs him to step-up his game at this point in the season and I haven't seen it yet.

Sean
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And yet I thought Eichel looked as dominating in that game as I have seen him in a while. The three guys I was with had never seen him play and were floored. But it didn't translate to more than one assist. He does need to find a way to finish his chances more frequently. His Shooutout goal in the WJC's notwithstanding, I don't think his one-on-goalie skills are one of his better assets.
 
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defkit said:
I'm enjoying these little jabs that have been popping up recently.:)

Should Paul Kariya be in the same group??:D

Maybe someone who has time to kill can look this up - I believe that magical season for Maine started with 2 games against a pushover like Alabama-Birmingham, and I thought those games were considered exhibition games, because UAB wasn't even Division 1 at the time (?). Kariya had a crazy amount of points in those two games (pretty sure he hit double digits). At the end of the year, I thought I saw some stats list that had him at 89 points, not 100. And I wondered if the difference was how those two games were being counted or not counted.

Amazing player, the only forward who I think looked as good as Eichel does at 18 years old.
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Maine started the 1992-93 with a 2 game home-stand vs. Providence (and one of their 2 ties), but followed that up with a two game home-stand vs. New Brunswick. Both of those games are listed as exhibitions in Maine's hockey guide season-by-season results, but Maine also counts them as wins in their overall record. Therefore I'm sure Maine also counts all of Kariya's points in those games. The NCAA Ice Hockey records book (incomplete as it is) has this at the beginning:

Official NCAA men’s ice hockey records began with the 1947-48 (1948) season and are based on information submitted to the NCAA statistics service by institutions participating in the statistics rankings. The NCAA began compiling men’s ice hockey statistics in the 1995-96 (1996) season. From that season on, games against Canadian schools are only included in the NCAA team’s statistics if they meet countable opponent requirements. Before 1996, NCAA teams often included Canadian opponents in their statistics, and are included here in season and career records. Game records, however, do not include those versus Canadian teams. In statistical rankings, the rounding of percentages and/or averages may indicate ties where none exist. In these cases, the numerical order of the rankings is accurate.
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I was interested in what the NCAA considers a countable opponent and found this on their instructions for entering schedules on NCAA Statistics site document:

COUNTABLE CONTESTS
• Only games against varsity teams of four-year (or two-year senior colleges), degree-granting institutions, that play a majority of their contests against U.S. college varsity teams, should be included on the schedule form. This can include non-U.S. and/or non-NCAA schools such as NAIA members, the University of British Columbia, Columbia Bible College and Simon Fraser University (NCAA member). For Division II only, countable competition also includes all four-year, degree-granting institutions located in Canada as defined by the NCAA Division II Bylaw 31.3.3.1.
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So, according to the NCAA it is acceptable for Maine to include Kariya's points from those 2 games, but BU can't include Eichel's 5 points against St. Thomas.

Sean
 
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Kariya vs. Eichel. Sadly, with Hoky in the box, we the innocent have been denied a definitive answer.
 
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Sean Pickett said:
Maine started the 1992-93 with a 2 game home-stand vs. Providence (and one of their 2 ties), but followed that up with a two game home-stand vs. New Brunswick. Both of those games are listed as exhibitions in Maine's hockey guide season-by-season results, but Maine also counts them as wins in their overall record. Therefore I'm sure Maine also counts all of Kariya's points in those games. The NCAA Ice Hockey records book (incomplete as it is) has this at the beginning:

I was interested in what the NCAA considers a countable opponent and found this on their instructions for entering schedules on NCAA Statistics site document:

So, according to the NCAA it is acceptable for Maine to include Kariya's points from those 2 games, but BU can't include Eichel's 5 points against St. Thomas.

Sean
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Thanks, Sean. It's funny, I actually thought those two games might have been against New Brunswick (I have a vague memory of the old US College Hockey Magazine having an issue with Kariya on the cover and a UNB goalie behind him), but I thought "no, there is no way games against a Canadian college could have been counted, it must have been a US school that wasn't D-1." And I'm pretty sure he had 11 points in those two games (but where did I leave my car keys this morning?). I hadn't recalled that the series against PC was before it. But now that you mentioned the games record, I remember a similar question about whether they won 40 or 42 games that year.

From now on, with the same regularity of Mookie mentioning Emma's phantom assists, I'll insert (89) whenever someone posts about Kariya's 100 points. :D

The truth is OUT!!!:D:D:D
 
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brassbonanza said:
Supposedly, I'll believe it when I see it. He was apparently medically cleared to resume practicing in the last week or two. Still have no idea what from.
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Sean Maguire was a medical redshirt this year, reportedly after having back surgery during the summer.

Don't forget, as a freshman, he backstopped the Terriers to the Hockey East final and was outstanding the entire tournament. I rated him higher than O'Connor because he gave up fewer rebounds and was more mobile. But O'Connor has had a terrific year so far this season.
 
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claver2010 said:
just do a quick google news search
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So I see the stuff about him drinking out of the Beanpot....is it a reference to that? Sorry, I'm not up to speed on the Cycling team's habits (beyond Lance's trangressions).
 
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Not sure if tim benz on weei went to school around here but they are talking about the eichel stuff right now. slipping in manziel references along the way!

Haven't looked up any of the video clips that are online.
 
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defkit said:
So I see the stuff about him drinking out of the Beanpot....is it a reference to that? Sorry, I'm not up to speed on the Cycling team's habits (beyond Lance's trangressions).
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mookie put two and two together and guessed that it had to do with the bike rides that followed the 2010 st patrick's day binge
 
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