brassbonanza
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Fun fact: If you change the PWR OT win rules back to how they were up until last year - and change no game results - BU is at 15 and in the tournament would be in if all three favorites win tonight.
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BU 2021-22: Albie's Great Adventure
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Harry Cleverly
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At most, the Rangers could subtract Quinn's next salary from what he is still owed by them. BU would not need to pay a buyout to a team that fired him.
Eric Lang is not someone that BU would look to hire.
Why exactly did they change the PWR rules? What did the new rules improve?
Remember when last 15 games (or whatever # it was) were weighted?
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I'll play along. BU makes it at 15 and draws Minnesota State/Michigan and gets pasted. Considering the expectations coming into the year, is your outlook even remotely different than not making tournament?
If administrators at BC and BU have this simplistic approach and won't even give the guy a look or similar candidates they are all idiots.
Well, as was discussed in some posts earlier, just a few games cost us. Just a split with UMass-Lowell put us at 12 and in. Also sweeps against lowly Maine and Sacred Heart would put us at 14 and in. Last team in Northeastern had a .5431, right around the previous historical guarantee of .5430. Depressing, but life goes on.
I have enjoyed the lively discussion on the future of our head coaching position. Although we have had a great overall 2nd semester, the ending was again a dud like last year. This was a great roster this year with the mix of older upperclassman and talented young players and solid goaltending. I thought this team would be ideal at the start of the season for a run at a HE title and mid to high seed in the NCAA with a shot at the Frozen Four. If you can’t even make the tournament with this roster, you did something wrong. I’m in favor of a change. Just get it over with. Everyone says Albie’s strength is recruiting. Anyone can recruit at BU, let’s face it. The place sells itself. We’ve had plenty of good recruiters over the years. We need a team that starts better and finishes stronger. Will a change happen? In all honesty, I think probably not, but time will tell.
I have enjoyed the lively discussion on the future of our head coaching position. Although we have had a great overall 2nd semester, the ending was again a dud like last year. This was a great roster this year with the mix of older upperclassman and talented young players and solid goaltending. I thought this team would be ideal at the start of the season for a run at a HE title and mid to high seed in the NCAA with a shot at the Frozen Four. If you can’t even make the tournament with this roster, you did something wrong. I’m in favor of a change. Just get it over with. Everyone says Albie’s strength is recruiting. Anyone can recruit at BU, let’s face it. The place sells itself. We’ve had plenty of good recruiters over the years. We need a team that starts better and finishes stronger. Will a change happen? In all honesty, I think probably not, but time will tell.
brassbonanza
Super Serial
Absolutely not.
Only posting it for the irony and to highlight the ridiculous PWR math adjustment.
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
Because? And you know how?
By the way, Coach Lang just won his third straight league tournament title. While not as exclusive a club as four straight regular season titles, he is just the 11th coach to do that at the DI level. He is also just the second DI coach to win 3 straight tournament titles while also winning the regular season title, in his case 4 straight (due to the cancelled 2020 postseason). The only other DI coach to do so was Ned Harkness at Cornell.
Sean
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Harry Cleverly
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He does not fit the profile of what they would be looking for. Does not mean he wouldn't be a good choice. Just that he would be a highly unlikely choice.
BTW, AIC is in by-far the weakest D1 league in the country. Still, you can only beat the teams on your schedule.
Friend_of_BU_Hockey
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Fleury's contract was set to expire after this season, so I'm not sure if the trade necessarily impacts what the 'Hawks might decide regarding Commesso. It's plausible they could try and sign him, or sign an experienced NHL goalie to a 1 or 2-year deal, then sign Commesso no earlier than after next season.
ericredaxe
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As it turns out anyway - 15 would not have gotten in, so if anything it probably would have just amplified the frustration at losing that last game to Maine.
ericredaxe
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Thinking about it and reading a bit more - I definitely agree that Coach Lang has done a nice job at AIC. I also agree with Harry's opinion that he does not fit the profile of a guy that BU (or BC for that matter) would be looking for.
I think brass bonanza's concerns are valid - and I'll add the concern that it appears he has built the AIC team buy utilizing older established players (form what I can find online there may only be 2 NCAA teams with an older average age roster). I have my doubts that BU would go for building a team in this way - and if we don't, will he be able to attract the NHL draft pics etc that we need to get if he has had zero experience competing, coaching or anything at that level? Contrary to what someone mentioned earlier in the thread - BU will not "sell itself" for recruiting so someone on the staff has to be able to help get them here.
Now, maybe I'll be proven wrong, If BU has decided to move on from Albie (which at this time does not appear to be the case) maybe we will learn that he gets hired as soon as AIC is out of the tournament and he comes in and does a fantastic job - and that would be great - I just don't see it happening, not when the school has a rolodex full of names of guys already connected to the program with a variety of higher level experiences.
I think brass bonanza's concerns are valid - and I'll add the concern that it appears he has built the AIC team buy utilizing older established players (form what I can find online there may only be 2 NCAA teams with an older average age roster). I have my doubts that BU would go for building a team in this way - and if we don't, will he be able to attract the NHL draft pics etc that we need to get if he has had zero experience competing, coaching or anything at that level? Contrary to what someone mentioned earlier in the thread - BU will not "sell itself" for recruiting so someone on the staff has to be able to help get them here.
Now, maybe I'll be proven wrong, If BU has decided to move on from Albie (which at this time does not appear to be the case) maybe we will learn that he gets hired as soon as AIC is out of the tournament and he comes in and does a fantastic job - and that would be great - I just don't see it happening, not when the school has a rolodex full of names of guys already connected to the program with a variety of higher level experiences.
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RossiRules
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Albie will be back..
ericredaxe
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I agree with this prediction. Or are you telling us you know for sure somehow?
What would be the next stop for Lang though? Surely he won't be at AIC for the rest of his career. Perhaps a school like UNH? Yale? To win at AIC, I don't think there is another way other than to recruit like Lang has. AIC was a complete dumpster fire program for basically their entire existence. He doesn't have the chance to compete for kids that even 2nd tier Hockey East programs compete for.
Even if it's not Lang, will be curious to see if BC/BU eventually do venture outside their families. I also thought of Mike Hastings and Rand Pecknold. Both have done tremendous jobs without winning the ultimate prize. I wonder if guys like that ever get to a point where they are looking for a new challenge.
Harry Cleverly
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I could potentially see Pecknold at a BU or a BC. Hastings, not so sure, because he is a Minnesota/MidWestern guy. That would take a stretch.
If BU does bring Albie back, I would like to know charge he has been given by Marrachello. What are the immediate goals moving forward. If they are not spelled out and addressed, then BU will continue spin its wheels in underachievement.
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
Why? What's "wrong" with his profile?
Why? What does Coach Pecknold have that Coach Lang is missing?
Coach Penknold has underperformed in the ECAC tournament, as Coach Hastings has in the WCHA/CCHA tournament.
Also, Quinnipiac is paying Coach Pecknold $540 thousand or more.
Finally, if you want a change write to President Brown and Drew Marrochello now if you haven't already done so.
Sean
ericredaxe
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I don't think there is anything "wrong" with him, i just think that BU (and BC) would be looking for someone with more experience at higher levels of hockey (NHL / Higher levels of NCAA D1 etc). I also don't think that these schools would go for the model of older established players that he has created at AIT - and, as mentioned before, while at AIC, they are 4-31-1 against the teams which we are really trying to compete.
Again - just my gut feeling, maybe BU will hire him, he will come in and do really well (and that would be great) - I just don't see BU making that move.
As to writing a letter, I don't think I'd ever do that (either for or against a coach)- it just isn't my style to do so.
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