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BU 2021-22: Albie's Great Adventure
- Thread starter Harry Cleverly
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Friend_of_BU_Hockey
Registered User
Here's another way to look at the overall body of work in the Albie era:
123 games | 58-49-16 overall record | .472 winning %
Take the 14-1-1 stretch from this season and the 9-1-0 stretch from last season out of the mix, and...
97 games | 35-47-15 | .361 winning %
Those 97 games represents 79% of the total games BU has played with Albie as head coach. This larger body of work is more reflective of what the BU program has regressed into than the 14-1-1 run from December 2021 thru February 2022.
123 games | 58-49-16 overall record | .472 winning %
Take the 14-1-1 stretch from this season and the 9-1-0 stretch from last season out of the mix, and...
97 games | 35-47-15 | .361 winning %
Those 97 games represents 79% of the total games BU has played with Albie as head coach. This larger body of work is more reflective of what the BU program has regressed into than the 14-1-1 run from December 2021 thru February 2022.
brassbonanza
Super Serial
I think UNH is a better parallel than UConn. We're not at the point of UNH and Maine yet, and have baked in advantages (better facilities, program $, overall program success, etc.) but if they do retain Albie and continue down this road we risk falling into perennial mediocrity.
defkit
New member
I'm not surprised that Pando may not want the top job. I mentioned a few days ago that he certainly wouldn't increase the intensity factor, unless he has a completely different persona that the public never sees. But even if that is the case, that isn't a reason to not replace Albie. I'm sure there are many coaches that would be interested in the job. Especially now that you aren't following a long string of success post Parker/Quinn.
Speaking of Quinn...
Speaking of Quinn...
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Point of order.
Ties are normally calculated as "half a win" in winning percentage.
123 games, 58 wins, 16 half-wins, for 66 "wins", .5366 win %
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
Ah, yes, UConn made it the Garden on just his eighth season. No I'm sorry, but his cumulative record at UConn is 122-150-33, 0.454 and that includes his 18-14-0 first season in the AHA. This season is just his second overall winning season, currently 4 games over 0.500. I wouldn't even give him credit for building UConn up as his last 2 and 1/2 seasons Bruce Marshall had the program back on the upswing, which was continued under David Berard for the last 1/2 season. UConn was 50-51-12 0.496 over those 3 seasons and 19-14-4, the last season before Cavanaugh took over and went 18-14-4. Yes, Hockey East is (was?) a tougher league than Atlantic Hockey, but I see nothing that indicates Coach Cavanaugh built UConn up from nothing.
Again, it's very hard to predict with 100% accuracy how a coach will do in the future based on past results, but after researching 426 coaching records at every current or former DI program (including when current DI programs were DII/DIII) since WWII I can say that after 4 seasons it's usually apparent how good a coach is and after 8 seasons you absolutely know how good a coach is. Coach Cavanaugh may well improve and even win a title or two if he stays anther decade, but I think his tenure at UConn likely ends up no better than Fern Flaman's at NIU (for the record Coach Flaman had a 255-301-23 record and won 1 ECAC title, 1 Hockey East title, 1 Frozen Four and had just one other league semifinal appearance).
Sean
ColinWilsonFan
Registered User
don’t underestimate joe p’s contribution great recruiter and greet voice in the locker room
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
I don't think UNH is a good parallel at all. UNH started their decline under a formerly excellent coach, Dick Umile, as he finished his career with 3 pretty bad losing seasons and a 0.500 season immediately preceding (and BU fans complained about Coach Parker's final 4 seasons!). So when Coach Souza (BTW, I used to work with his aunt back when he was playing at UNH) took over UNH was already in trouble and he hasn't been able to stabilize the program, although he may have slowed the decline..
Maine is actually the closet parallel to BU, although the circumstances around the coaching change were completely different as Maine fired Coach Whitehead after one poor season. Still Coach Gendron took over and was unable to maintain Maine as even a 0.500 program after his first season.
Sean
ericredaxe
Veteran
So if true that they are bringing Albie back in again, that kind of goes with what my gut feeling was on what BU might be thinking. I do like the coaching staff moves he made last year and they have improved a little bit each year (albeit baby steps) - add to that a weird COVID year where BU was probably the most restrictive school of those who actually played...plus likely some hesitancy of having just gotten burned by Quinn jumping to the NHL and not wanting to go through that again in 3 or 4 years, I can see why they would stick with him for another year.
I'm surprised that you guys would give up your season tickets over one more year. The team was exciting to watch for a good stretch this year and the games are still fun. (If you are giving up season tickets because its a pain in the ass to get into the city with traffic and the concession food sucks etc I can 100% understand that)
If you do give them up, what would it take to bring you back? Lets say Albie does indeed stay and they have a season that more of less mirrors this years record, but they don't lose the Sacred Heart and Maine games and finish 12th in the PWR would that do it? That plus make the Garden or win an NCAA game? Win Hockey East?
Lets keep the faith and see what happens.
Now - roster - what will next year look like?
Schedule - other than they mentioned Notre Dame, who do we know of for OOC games? Does the unbalanced Hockey East schedule stay the same every year? Or do the teams we play 3x vs 2x rotate each year?
Edit: One other question - are all coaches (hockey and other sports) under specified contract lengths? Or are some just simply hired by a university the same as any other employee and could decide to leave / be terminated etc at any time?
I'm surprised that you guys would give up your season tickets over one more year. The team was exciting to watch for a good stretch this year and the games are still fun. (If you are giving up season tickets because its a pain in the ass to get into the city with traffic and the concession food sucks etc I can 100% understand that)
If you do give them up, what would it take to bring you back? Lets say Albie does indeed stay and they have a season that more of less mirrors this years record, but they don't lose the Sacred Heart and Maine games and finish 12th in the PWR would that do it? That plus make the Garden or win an NCAA game? Win Hockey East?
Lets keep the faith and see what happens.
Now - roster - what will next year look like?
Schedule - other than they mentioned Notre Dame, who do we know of for OOC games? Does the unbalanced Hockey East schedule stay the same every year? Or do the teams we play 3x vs 2x rotate each year?
Edit: One other question - are all coaches (hockey and other sports) under specified contract lengths? Or are some just simply hired by a university the same as any other employee and could decide to leave / be terminated etc at any time?
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Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
As mentioned that is not winning percentage and never has been. I know you have brought it up before and I agree it is something worth looking at, but maybe call it Win Percentage to differentiate it from the standard winning percentage. As you point out it can quickly show that Coach O'Connell hasn't even won half of the games he's coached. Interestingly, current and more recent coaches are more impacted by it then older ones, as ties were far less prevalent in the past. Coach O'Connell comes tied for the 19th largest drop (out of 426 coaches) in percentage between standard% and Win%:
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[TD]Career[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"] [/TD]
[TD]GC[/TD]
[TD]W[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]T[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]Pct.[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]W%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]Dif[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]Brent Brekke[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]SLU[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]90[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]54[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]15[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.317[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.233[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]-0.083[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dennis Williams[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]BG[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]36[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]25[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.222[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.139[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.083[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Clancy Seymour[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]CAN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.525[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.450[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.075[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bob Mancini[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]FSU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]80[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]36[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]32[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.525[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.450[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.075[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]David Berard[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]HC[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]234[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]84[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]116[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]34[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.432[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.359[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.073[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mark Osiecki[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]OSU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]112[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]46[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]50[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.482[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.411[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.071[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Matt Curley[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]UAA[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]70[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]53[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.171[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.100[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.071[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]John Hill[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]UAA[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]149[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]39[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]89[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.332[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.262[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.070[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]Brian Riley[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]USMA[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]621[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]218[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]317[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]86[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.420[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.351[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]-0.069[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Roger Grillo[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]BRN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]377[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]120[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]205[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]52[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.387[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.318[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.069[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Steve Cedorchuk[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]BC[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]74[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]24[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]40[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.392[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.324[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.068[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Frank Anzalone (II)[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]LSSU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]149[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]32[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]97[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.282[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.215[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.067[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]Mike Souza[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]UNH[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]127[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]47[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]63[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]17[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.437[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.370[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]-0.067[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tim Army[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]PC[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]210[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]66[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]116[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]28[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.381[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.314[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.067[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jim Roque[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]LSSU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]347[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]136[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]165[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]46[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.458[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.392[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.066[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kevin Sneddon[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]UVM[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]636[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]251[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]301[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]84[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.461[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.395[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.066[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Greg Cronin[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]NU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]220[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]87[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]104[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]29[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.461[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.395[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.066[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Pat Ford[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]FIN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]38[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]22[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.355[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.289[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.066[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tavis MacMillan[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]UAF[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]115[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]46[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]54[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]15[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.465[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.400[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.065[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]Albie O'Connell[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]BU[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]123[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]49[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.537[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.472[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]-0.065[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dave Smith[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]CAN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]454[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]172[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]223[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]59[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.444[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.379[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.065[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dave Poulin[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]ND[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]386[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]139[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]197[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]50[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.425[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.360[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.065[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]Brendan Whittet[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]BRN[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]387[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]114[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]223[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]50[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.359[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.295[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]-0.065[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
He's also one of 46 coaches who's % drops below 0.500:
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[TR]
[TD]Career[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"] [/TD]
[TD]GC[/TD]
[TD]W[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]T[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]Pct.[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]W%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]Dif[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]Casey Jones[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]CLA[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]402[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]200[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]151[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]51[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.561[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.498[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]-0.063[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mel Pearson[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]MTU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]239[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]118[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]92[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]29[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.554[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.494[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.061[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]Steve Rohlik[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]OSU[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]325[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]162[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]127[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]36[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.554[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.498[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]-0.055[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jim Madigan[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]NU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]352[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]174[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]139[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]39[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.550[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.494[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.055[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]Scott Sandelin[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]UMD[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]867[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]425[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]347[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]95[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.545[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.490[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]-0.055[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ronn Tomassoni[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]HU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]281[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]140[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]115[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]26[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.544[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.498[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.046[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mike Eaves[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]WI[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]558[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]267[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]225[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]66[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.538[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.478[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.059[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Joe Marsh[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]SLU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]939[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]468[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]399[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]72[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.537[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.498[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.038[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]Albie O'Connell[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]BU[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]123[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]49[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.537[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.472[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]-0.065[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]Ted Donato[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]HU[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]567[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]272[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]231[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]64[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.536[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.480[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]-0.056[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mark Mazzoleni[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]HU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]167[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]82[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]72[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.530[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.491[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.039[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]Guy Gadowsky[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]PSU[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]348[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]172[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]152[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]24[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.529[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.494[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]-0.034[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Clancy Seymour[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]CAN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.525[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.450[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.075[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bob Mancini[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]FSU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]80[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]36[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]32[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.525[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.450[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.075[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brian Cavanaugh[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]CAN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]704[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]341[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]306[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]57[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.525[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.484[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Chris Bergeron[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]BG[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]369[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]171[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]154[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]44[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.523[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.463[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.060[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]Frank Serratore[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]AFA[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]924[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]435[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]393[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]96[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.523[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.471[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]-0.052[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dean Blais[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]UNO[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]309[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]146[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]133[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]30[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.521[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.472[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.049[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Barry Thorndycraft[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]UND[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]144[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]71[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]65[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.521[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.493[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.028[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Craig Dahl[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]SCSU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]699[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]338[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]309[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]52[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.521[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.484[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.037[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nate Leaman[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]UC[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]300[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]138[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]127[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]35[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.518[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.460[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.058[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]Tom Serratore[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]BSU[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]772[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]354[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]326[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]92[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.518[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.459[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]-0.060[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dan Fridgen[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]RPI[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]442[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]210[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]194[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]38[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.518[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.475[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.043[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Andy Murray[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]WMU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]364[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]167[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]154[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]43[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.518[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.459[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.059[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mike Sertich[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]UMD[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]722[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]350[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]328[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]44[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.515[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.485[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.030[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]James Fullerton[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]BRN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]353[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]176[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]168[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.511[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.499[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.013[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Murray Murdoch[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]YU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]416[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]206[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]197[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.511[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.495[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.016[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ralph Backstrom[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]DU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]370[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]182[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]174[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.511[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.492[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.019[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]John Markell[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]OSU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]603[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]280[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]267[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]56[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.511[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.464[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.046[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Greg Carvel[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]SLU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]186[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]86[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]82[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.511[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.462[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.048[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bill Wilkinson[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]WMU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]667[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]313[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]301[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]53[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.509[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.469[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Edward Jeremiah[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]DC[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]461[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]230[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]223[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.508[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.499[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.009[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jim Reynolds[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]MC[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]66[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]32[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]31[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.508[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.485[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.023[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]John Matchefts[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]AFA[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]310[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]154[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]150[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.506[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.497[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.010[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brian McCutcheon[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]COR[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]234[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]108[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]105[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.506[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.462[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.045[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ron Anderson[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]MC[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]528[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]255[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]249[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]24[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.506[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.483[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.023[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mark Mazzoleni[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]MIA[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]188[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]85[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]83[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.505[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.452[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.053[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Harry Neale[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]OSU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]100[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]49[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]48[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.505[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.490[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.015[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Guy Gadowsky[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]UAF[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]174[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]81[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]80[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.503[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.466[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.037[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Walt Kyle[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]NMU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]596[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]265[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]263[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]68[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.502[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.445[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.057[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Paul Pearl[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]HC[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]659[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]296[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]294[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]69[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.502[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.449[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.052[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]Derek Schooley[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]RMU[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]618[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]275[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]275[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]68[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.445[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]-0.055[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]John Ronan[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #ffffcc"]UC[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]17[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]1[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]0.471[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #ffffcc, align: right"]-0.029[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]John Glynne[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]SHU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]38[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]18[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]18[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.500[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.474[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.026[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Horace Martin[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]UNH[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]155[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]76[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]76[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.500[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.490[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.010[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Donald Whiston[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]BRN[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]55[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]27[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]27[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.500[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0.491[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]-0.009[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Sean
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
It's already been three "one more years." Furthermore I wrote to Drew last season after the abominable performance by the team in their first game and let him know I could no longer support Coach O'Connell, so for me it has already been "one more year." Also, I believe that BU has the opportunity to hire the best young head coach in DI today this year and I don't think that will be true in another year.
Nor do I think the team was fun to watch for a good stretch.
Yes, but they still played poorly far too often, including both losses to UConn, the losses to UML, the loss to Vermont, etc. For me it will take the team playing well for 60 or more minutes every single game no matter the score. And yes, just making the Garden should never be good enough, Coach Kelley made the Garden in 8 out of 10 seasons; Coach Parker made the Garden* in 28 out of 40 seasons. 21 out of 29 in Hockey East; even Coach Quinn made it 3 out of 5 seasons; Coach O'Connell 1 out of 3 (only saved by the 2020 postseason being canceled from being 1 out of 4). And you have make the NCAA tournament before you can actually win a NCAA game.
I kept the faith this season and I saw what happened; the same thing that happened the previous three seasons: a pathetic end to the season. Faith will no longer play a part in my supporting BU. They will get no more money from me until I see actual change.
Sean
*not all semifinal/final games were actually played at the Garden.
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Has any player/team really improved with Albie? His whole 2018-2019 freshman class was a bust. 2019-2020 class of 13, it seems only Vlasic, Fensore, and Skoog have really improved. In 20-21, our whole offense seemed to be based around Farrance. Albie cannot develop any player. Maybe it's because during the season he only has 30-45 minute practices to "keep legs fresh". This guy is a joke. Also, can BU just rescind a players scholarship? I would much rather bring in more freshman than keep players that bring no value.
ericredaxe
Veteran
Maybe I missed this in earlier discussion - who do you believe is the best young coach they could hire?
I also agree that there was a stretch in the first part of the season that the team was not all that fun to watch.
brassbonanza
Super Serial
I believe he means Eric Lang at AIC.
Calling a 2.5-month, 18-game period (through BC home game) a "stretch" is.... a stretch. It was more than half the season and the team was brutal to watch. That's what did us in.
Friend_of_BU_Hockey
Registered User
Thanks Sean and The Sicatoka for correcting me. But the point I was trying to make is when removing the 14-1-1 and 9-1-0 stretches from the past 2 seasons, the remaining 79% of the games Albie has coached has yielded a record that falls well short of BU Hockey standards.
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
Both you and ericredaxe are cherry picking to try and make your points, but you really need to look at the complete record. And in your case, you don't need to exclude the two good runs BU had under Coach O'Connell. When Coach O'Connell took over BU the program's winning percentage since WWII was 0.638 a full 0.100 higher than Coach O'Connell's 0.537 and the Win% variance is even greater. Here are BU's totals excluding and including Coach O'Connell's records:
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[TR]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"] [/TD]
[TD]GC[/TD]
[TD]W[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]T[/TD]
[TD="class: xl63"]Pct.[/TD]
[TD="class: xl63"]W%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Boston University[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]ex[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2367[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1432[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]781[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]154[/TD]
[TD="class: xl63, align: right"]0.638[/TD]
[TD="class: xl63, align: right"]0.605[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Boston University[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]with[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2490[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1490[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]830[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]170[/TD]
[TD="class: xl63, align: right"]0.633[/TD]
[TD="class: xl63, align: right"]0.598[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Albie O'Connell[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64"]BU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]123[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]58[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]49[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: xl63, align: right"]0.537[/TD]
[TD="class: xl63, align: right"]0.472[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
As can be seen, his complete record falls well short of BU Hockey standards. Coach O'Connell would need a perfect 34-0-0 regular season to bring his cumulative winning percentage up to BU's overall winning percentage (33-1-0 would almost do it).
Sean
ericredaxe
Veteran
I'm not cherry picking anything - i'm pointing out that (if what we seem to think about Albie staying is true) BU seems to be where my gut was telling me they would be and describing why i think they might feel that way.
I also agree that the first half of the season was tough to watch (call it a stretch or whatever you want) and that the team was fun to watch for the second half.
And I'm surprised that people would give up their tickets. I'll still have fun going and my decision to give up tickets or not will be more based on things like traffic, quality of concessions, are people I like to see and socialize before during and after the games with still going etc etc and not my opinion of whoever happens to be the coach.
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
I didn't post my thought's on a replacement before (although I did ask who others thoughts would be a good choice), but yes, I was referring to Eric Lang.
If the reports are to be believed from when Coach O'Connell was hired Coach Bennett was being considered, but ultimately not selected. So, yes, I think other coaches will be considered, but how seriously they are considered and if one would actually be chosen I don't know. However, staying in the family (and only Army has actually stayed in the family!) shouldn't even be on the list.
Sean
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