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BU 2021-22: Albie's Great Adventure
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Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
OK, so a win is a win for the purpose of the second tiebreaker, but not the first tiebreaker; head-to-head. For that the league is using points percentage as I stated. From the article:
In my opinion if the league if is going to differentiate wins for head-to-head by using points% then they should also use points% for the conference wins tiebreaker.
Sean
PullTheGoalie
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I posted that while looking at the standings on my computer screen right after the NU game ended. I did notice later that the standings had been adjusted and that BU had the last bye. No harm meant.
PullTheGoalie
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I posted that shortly after the NU game ended. I took it from the standings on the HE site. I went back later and saw that it had been changed. I wasn't trying to incite. Sorry.
None taken. Pencils and erasers, no?
No problem. I didn't take it that way...I was just asking. (how come the emojis don't work in this [relatively] new format?)
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Well fuck.
mookie was hoping to catch a game next weekend. But at UConn is iffy. Land at jfk at 2p.
mookie was hoping to catch a game next weekend. But at UConn is iffy. Land at jfk at 2p.
That's one way of looking at it, but haven't we said that more than once already this season?
Well, at least last night wasn’t an elimination game. The chances of winning 2 in Maine were probably slim anyway. I’m a little surprised we only dropped to 16 in the PWR. Ohio State lost 2 of 3 this weekend to Penn State and dropped to 15 which helps us. A win against UConn and we jump them into 15. A loss by another Hockey East school probably puts that school below us. Still probably need to win at least through the semifinal to have a chance. I think 15 will make it.
This team is capable as we saw at the Beanpot. Let’s hope that team shows up, and not the high school team with BU jerseys from last night. The guys have to feel embarrassed by that effort. Let’s get healthy and take the ice. I’m sure they will be hungry to redeem themselves. Go BU!
This team is capable as we saw at the Beanpot. Let’s hope that team shows up, and not the high school team with BU jerseys from last night. The guys have to feel embarrassed by that effort. Let’s get healthy and take the ice. I’m sure they will be hungry to redeem themselves. Go BU!
Well, that's the $64,000 question, isn't it? They didn't look very embarrassed Saturday night based on the lack of pushback. The game isn't over at 4-0 in the FIRST period. Looked to me like they just gave up. So again, the "leadership" has to be questioned. Winning teams and programs have that intangible quality...that was certainly evident, as anyone who was around, knew from, for example, the 2009 team. This team has too much talent to lose 8-1, so the only explanation is lack of effort. You certainly can't blame "puck luck." This is what is disconcerting...if there is no pride after thirty-four games, what makes you think they will just turn it on like a switch now? And do I have to remind anyone that we don't play well in Hartford? Maybe there are too many players concerned about their NHL careers? Someone needs to explain to me (and I'm talking about the last 20 years so don't pin me down with the "what happened this year" comment) how a program like BC seems to be able to instill and maintain that cohesiveness with a high number of draft picks while we seem to have an inordinate number of games that just seem to be indifferent. And maybe if they had shown that "pride" and leadership early in the season, they wouldn't be in this position in the first place.
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I get the larger point but I wouldn't call BC Hockey the model of excellence over the last 10 years.
Since the game is only going to be streamed and not on TV, why can't it happen at 7:00? 4:30 is such an odd time.
Also, I'm trying to remember, they probably have but I cannot recall - has BU ever swept a series up in Orono? Worst team in the league, one would think this would be the season it would happen if it hadn't happened before.
Also, I'm trying to remember, they probably have but I cannot recall - has BU ever swept a series up in Orono? Worst team in the league, one would think this would be the season it would happen if it hadn't happened before.
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
My guess is the league wanted to spread-out the games to allow fans to watch more than one and also to give NESN an option at 4:30.
Yes, BU has swept 3 out of 19 series at Alfond: 14-15 Feb 1986; 19-20 Nov 1993; and 12-13 Jan 2007. BU has also won-tied at Alfond 3 times: 13-14 Feb 2009; 28-29 Jan 2011; and 15-16 Feb 2013.
On the flip side, Maine has only swept BU at WBA or Agganis 4 times out of 21 series and won-tied once.
Sean
I basically wondered that also (on the "tournament" thread)...
I think a few of us had mentioned that a sweep is always difficult up there. Personally, I'm not upset at the loss...it's the way they played/responded. It's one thing to lose if you get bad bounces, etc. It's hockey. It happens. But 8-1 in a game you were NEVER in?
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
No, the game wasn't over, but over the past 4 seasons teams that have taken a 4-0 lead have a 512-0-3, 0.997 record and only one other team has comeback from down 4-0 to make it 4-4, before losing. Furthermore, when a team has taken a 4 goal lead at any point in a game over the past four seasons they have gone 902-1-4, 0.997. Over on the UNH thread a Wildcat fan posted 8 games over the past 20 seasons involving UNH in which a team blew a 4 goal lead. BU came back from a 4-0 deficit at Alfond on 31 Jan 1992 to tie 4-4 and a 6-2 deficit at Alfond on 19 Feb 1993 to win 7-6 in overtime (The One[SUP]TM[/SUP]). Still, such comebacks are extremely rare and I didn't expect this BU team to be able to do it (nor did I expect them to lose 8-1).
I agree, and I put the blame squarely on Coach O'Connell.
Teams can have a bad game, or have you forgotten the post-Beanpot loss to Providence in 1995? That team had "too much talent to lose 8-1," and yet that is exactly what they did. Or what about the 1994 NCAA championship game thrashing BU took from Lake State? Again, that team had "too much talent to lose 8-1," yet they did that one better, losing 9-1. Was there "no pride" after 41 games that season?
Maybe it has to do with the coaching staff. Coach Parker, as great a coach as he was, had quite a few less than stellar seasons, usually when he had lesser assistant coaches. Coach Quinn was a good coach, but he also had problems, which in part I put on him not having the best assistants every season. And despite my supporting and wanting BU to hire Coach O'Connell I think his four seasons have shown a marked lack of success, although I believe Coach Pandolfo has made a positive impact on the team this season.
Sean
With Albie as his recruiter?
You took it a little too literally...I didn't expect them to come back either, but neither did I expect them just to completely quit. Here's why it's concerning...it's the last game before the playoffs and one would think that a team would want to at least try to get on a positive upswing. I DO remember that Lake State game...I think we hit the crossbar in the first minute and that seemed to be a harbinger of things to come. But that's also a different situation. If you get two goals down against a Jeff Jackson team the game is virtually over, because he just shuts everything down. BU wasn't going to win that game, but I felt as though they still played hard (and forgive me if they didn't...it was 27 years ago). Everything just snowballed in that game. They knew they weren't going to win and there wasn't "another game" coming up, so I understand how demoralizing that can be. It was the National Championship game...they weren't playing the last place team in the league. Also, that team was 34-7 so I think there was plenty of pride. But IIRC, on Saturday it was 4-0 with I think 7:13 left in the FIRST period. I'm not taking anything away from Maine, but it's not the same as coming back against a team that traps all over the ice (like LSS) and hardly gives up anything. I understand quitting at 7-0 in the third, but it just seemed a little too early to pack it in. It didn't show much fight or pushback and that doesn't bode well for handling adversity going forward. A team can't be a front-runner in every game and you can't just collapse because you fall behind.
I agree that the addition of Pandolfo seems to have made a huge difference. I DON'T believe it's a coincidence that they started to play markedly better since he came back onboard. So, yes, we could dismiss it as an aberration and see what happens next Saturday. But the gist of my comment was that it was a little shocking...maybe because we hadn't seen that since the "turnaround." Let's hope they got it out of their system, but I still sense some red flags on this team.
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