BU 2013-2014: Ready to Quinn

[Hokydad]

Re: BU 2013-2014: Ready to Quinn

I wouldn't have recommended that Warsofsky, Cohen, Bonino, Coyle, Clandening, Nieto, Gill, or Cisse leave early either. I mean it worked out for Coyle, Bonino (though there's really no reason Bonino shouldn't have stayed another year), and Nieto (he's at least palyed a few games at the NHL level), but these players seem to think that all they have to do is have a decent year in college and then they'll just make their living playing hockey. Like Colby Cohen and Sahir Gill and Yasin Cisse are so confident they'll make a good living playing hockey that they can't spend one more season playing against top tier college teams and getting a college degree to fall back on? Colby Cohen left for the pros close to 4 years ago and has played 3 games in the NHL. Nieto will probably end up playing consistently at the NHL level and making good money, but did he need to leave after his junior year? Was he that confident? He was definitely good (real good occasionally), but he wasn't even the top scorer on a team that missed the NCAA tournament. These guys playing for BU seem to think they're destined to make millions and be a star in the NHL and BU is just a waiting room. They figure they'll come here and live the life partying and being the star athlete. Like the upcoming game isn't really a big deal because the scouts aren't there or it doesn't matter and they just have to bide their time until the team that drafted them comes calling. Seems like just a lot of lazy prima donnas with inflated egos and expectations for their future have been coming through BU. This year seems to have fewer (if any) of those types, but it also seems to be lacking in talent as well. Can BU maybe get some players with talent and a will to win?



Ok good. I think anything over 20% is definitely good. Over 23% would be great.

you are missing one thing
most of the players you mentioned could care less about a BU degree. They came there to play hockey and get biggr and stronger. They are that at 21/22 and its time to move on and play 70-80 games vs losing to Bentley.

Bonino would not have benefited 1% by staying another year. Colby Cohen would be doing the same thing either way and can always get the few credits in the summer and on line. Gill would still be in echl and his degree at BU means zero from where he comes from, even though he can still get it if he wants

 

[Rover]

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Terrance you're lumping together a lot of players who left for different reasons.

Bonino wasn't going to accomplish anything more here and had NHL level talent. Cohen was an awful defenseman, he might as well scram while still having some glow from being championship game MVP even though he was terrible that whole game until the last 5 seconds. Coyle's style of play wasn't fitting with the dump and suck, constipated offense so he left. Cisse was a bust so he left. Nieto and Gill probably felt there was no point toiling on a bad team for one last year.

Regarding O'Regan, the team should be getting better, and as it does he has a chance to showcase his skills more. His best move is most likely to try to put on a show in college and develop some better skills. He's taken a big step backward this year and if any scouts are at the games they surely can see the same thing.

 

[candycanes99]

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Cohen was an awful defenseman, he might as well scram while still having some glow from being championship game MVP even though he was terrible that whole game until the last 5 seconds.

All the d-men were awful in that game. Didn't he practically lead the team in goals most of the next year? Colby hating is just your thing forever?

 

[Humanoid]

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Admittedly I probably haven't watched BU throughout the entire season, but I know I've seen them enough to say that the players are not responding to Quinn's system. He needs time to phase it in, but during the Bentley game, BU was predictable. They played a disinterested style, and the players looked visibly disinterested in the style. I don't know what's going on, but they all looked like they'd all rather have been somewhere else but on that ice. And Bentley's 2-goal second period just buried them. Walking off the ice, the team into the locker room on the jumbotron looked defeated. THat's all on the coaches. For Quinn to stand at his presser and say, "there's going to be changes" and he's mad means that the season is in danger of falling off the rails really fast IMHO. I don't know if it's youth or what, but at this point, it's a matter of his coaching doing something drastic. IN 3 games, they've unraveled the improvements they made earlier in the season. They were outclassed in every facet of the game.

Maybe the break before Harvard will do them good.

 

[Rover]

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All the d-men were awful in that game. Didn't he practically lead the team in goals most of the next year? Colby hating is just your thing forever?

I don't think mind-reading is your strong suit, so I suggest you keep your day job, whatever that is. Cohen was a bad defenseman his whole career. He was slow and clumsy and easy to get around.

Having said that, and not knowing him personally, him scoring that goal was a beautiful thing, and if it got him a cup of coffee in the pros and a few more ho's visiting his dorm room, good for him. Far from having anything against the man, again a person I don't know off the ice, I wish the clumsy bahstid all the best.

 

[mpereira]

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There was tremendous pressure on drafted kids to leave after junior year because of the previous CBA and the rules governing free agency/draft rights after the fourth year of college. I am not totally sure if that's changed since the last lockout but that's my understanding of how it worked since the '04 lockout ended.

Wasn't the case for Nieto since he was drafted after his freshman year and not before it like most guys but considering he has seen some NHL time this year, it's tough to say he made the wrong decision

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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Having said that, and not knowing him personally, him scoring that goal was a beautiful thing, and if it got him a cup of coffee in the pros and a few more ho's visiting his dorm room

I think you mean it may have gotten him a few more ho's in the Agganis Arena penalty box. Amirite Colby?!?!?!?

ooooooool Mary Carmichael is a liar!

 

[DoubleA]

I think that is a very fair thing to say. We can't forget that there is going to be some learning curve for the new head coach as well. And I agree, I'm sure he will do a great job in the long run.

DQ is coming in to the job after Jackie ran the joint as head coach for 4-0 Forty years. No transition is going to be quick or smooth after a 40 year reign. Having said that, I think Quinn was hand picked long before Jackie stepped down, with the anticipation that he (Quinn) would use a system somewhat similar to Jackie. Quinn also did not arrive with the cupboard bare. Jackie left horses, not mules.

 

[Rover]

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DQ is coming in to the job after Jackie ran the joint as head coach for 4-0 Forty years. No transition is going to be quick or smooth after a 40 year reign. Having said that, I think Quinn was hand picked long before Jackie stepped down, with the anticipation that he (Quinn) would use a system somewhat similar to Jackie. Quinn also did not arrive with the cupboard bare. Jackie left horses, not mules.

I feel quite a bit differently about this. Parker's style of play was one of the big problems this program had. Wanting more of the same, especially in light of all the problems recently, doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Why not just give Bavis the job then?

My own speculation is that it was decided before last year started that this was going to be Parker's swan song one way or the other, and that allowed them to make arrangements with Quinn who was introduced as coach pretty much while they were finishing folding the chairs up after Parker's fairwell press conference. They got somewhat lucky with Quinn in that he was still in his same job after ditching BU the first time when Parker stuck around after the national championship.

 

[candycanes99]

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I don't think mind-reading is your strong suit, so I suggest you keep your day job, whatever that is. Cohen was a bad defenseman his whole career. He was slow and clumsy and easy to get around.

Having said that, and not knowing him personally, him scoring that goal was a beautiful thing, and if it got him a cup of coffee in the pros and a few more ho's visiting his dorm room, good for him. Far from having anything against the man, again a person I don't know off the ice, I wish the clumsy bahstid all the best.

Mind reading? No, just recalling your rants back while he was here. He wasn't very good defensively, agreed, but his slapshot was ridiculously accurate for how hard it was. Which is what makes his biggest goal being so ridiculous all the more fun. I don't know him either, but yeah with regards to his pro prospects I never really thought he had a shot to make it big time.

 

[mookie1995]

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hmmmm. to mookie all rover rants just blend into one. doubt he could recall one from the other!

 

[Terrierbyassociation]

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hmmmm. to mookie all rover rants just blend into one. doubt he could recall one from the other!

This one doesn't even blame the GOP. Rover, you're slipping.

 

[Rover]

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This one doesn't even blame the GOP. Rover, you're slipping.

I'm sure they've got something to do with it.

What are we referring to again?

 

[mookie1995]

I'm sure they've got something to do with it.

What are we referring to again?

Well paid white guys !!!

 

[J.D.]

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WILMINGTON — The Bruins had to make a tough move Wednesday, sending defenseman Kevan Miller back to Providence for the sake of making sure he remains in the organization.

Miller, who has been recalled twice for the B’s and has done well with the opportunity given to him, was about to play his 10th game, which would have meant the team would need to put him through waivers if they B’s tried sending him down later.

“We felt that Kevan would probably be a waiver pickup by somebody,” Bruins general manager Peter Chiarelli said. “We didn’t want to risk it, so I spoke to Kevan beforehand and he understood. I told him I felt good about his play up here, and probably the next time we bring him up will be for good.

“It’s kind of a cold business decision, but I first asked him, ‘Have you been counting games?’ He said, ‘Yes.’ I said, ‘Do you know what game it is tomorrow night?’ He goes, ‘Yes.’ I said, ‘Well what do you think?’ He understood.”

With Miller back in Providence, the Bruins have recalled defenseman David Warsofksy.

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In other news, hoky just bought an entire section of seats to the next game for himself.

 

[Harry Cleverly]

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DQ is coming in to the job after Jackie ran the joint as head coach for 4-0 Forty years. No transition is going to be quick or smooth after a 40 year reign. Having said that, I think Quinn was hand picked long before Jackie stepped down, with the anticipation that he (Quinn) would use a system somewhat similar to Jackie. Quinn also did not arrive with the cupboard bare. Jackie left horses, not mules.

It is great to inherit money; it isn't the same inheriting another coach's players.

Of course there is going to be a transition period. Anyone that doesn't think so just isn't being realistic. And that's including situations where the new coach is a needed breath of fresh air.

 

[Harry Cleverly]

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Cohen was an awful defenseman, he might as well scram while still having some glow from being championship game MVP even though he was terrible that whole game until the last 5 seconds. Coyle's style of play wasn't fitting with the dump and suck, constipated offense so he left.

Extra tough love for a player that left after his junior year, when he was selected a First Team All-American?

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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Extra tough love for a player that left after his junior year, when he was selected a First Team All-American?

Danny Spang was also a First Team All-American FWIW. And we all know how amazing he was at hockey!!!!!!

And of course 90% of the time these people look at point totals and pick awards based on that; completely absurd for defensemen. I think rover was more trying to say that he was bad defensively (because it's difficult to deny his offensive abilities)... and being picked as an AA still doesn't refute that IMO.

 

[Rover]

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Danny Spang was also a First Team All-American FWIW. And we all know how amazing he was at hockey!!!!!!

And of course 90% of the time these people look at point totals and pick awards based on that; completely absurd for defensemen. I think rover was more trying to say that he was bad defensively (because it's difficult to deny his offensive abilities)... and being picked as an AA still doesn't refute that IMO.

Either Harry wasn't going to games or he was drunk most of the time. Again, nothing against Cohen but he was terrible on defense. Doesn't make him a bad guy, it just is what it is.

 

[mookie1995]

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Good news? No bu loss this weekend!!