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BU 2013-2014: Ready to Quinn

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David Quinn is rumored to be leaving bu after this year. He is looking at the possibility of going to the NHL after this year. People that know David have mentioned that his desire to recruit is not what it should be for a head college coach.
 
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carltonbarrett said:
If Kurker was a freshman, I could see where he may be able to get his "A" game back with a year in the USHL, but he already has a full year of D-1 under his belt and he did nothing as a Sophmore, so I just don't see him ever becoming an impact player at this point.
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Many were saying the same thing about Coyle when he left in the middle of his sophomore year
 
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defkit said:
In my book, DQ gets two years to turn things around.
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To be fair, I think you have to give him even more than that... two years is next year... wouldn't it be the year after that before the first of his recruits started showing up on campus?
 
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Best players on this year's team: O'Connor, O'Regan, Hohmann, Rodrigues, Roberto, Baillargeon, Lane…All six should be back next year with another year under belt. Defense needs to be upgraded and depth an issue. Quinn was working with very little depth in system when he arrived.
 
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York would have been fired if only given two years. Sure, different situations but just sayin'
 
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CollegeHockeyRinkReport said:
Best players on this year's team: O'Connor, O'Regan, Hohmann, Rodrigues, Roberto, Baillargeon, Lane…All six should be back next year with another year under belt. Defense needs to be upgraded and depth an issue. Quinn was working with very little depth in system when he arrived.
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Grizz and Noonan been that bad? I'll admit that I haven't seen as many games as I usually.
 
RefereeGrav said:
Grizz and Noonan been that bad? I'll admit that I haven't seen as many games as I usually.
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The not so flying Fin is the main problem. Defense never was nor never will be #5's strength.

Good point on York. This is going to take a couple of seasons. They'll be better next year.
 
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I'm fine with giving him more than two seasons….I just figured I wouldn't out a number out there that is so much longer than the 6-months that some think is enough…..
 
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J.D. said:
York would have been fired if only given two years. Sure, different situations but just sayin'
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York would have been fired if GDF had his way but the trustees stepped in, even if York had won the NCAA.

Thank goodness GDF is gone and Bates is the AD now. GDF was a control freak and an ***
 
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RefereeGrav said:
Grizz and Noonan been that bad? I'll admit that I haven't seen as many games as I usually.
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From an outsider's POV, Grzelcyk (yes I looked it up) carries on the tradition of wearing #5 at BU. Being an undersized offensive defensemen with zero interest in playing D. Looks like the stats back that up as he leads the team in shots (by 20% :eek:) and is last in +/-
 
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I was going to write a number of points on her but don't have time at the moment. One thing I wanted to mention is that I am surprised more than one poster on here the last couple of days expressed dissapointment with Matt Lane. I think he is one of the most imporved Terriers on the ice. Well rounded and willing to assist the D in their own end. He already has 4 more points than he did all of last season.

Overall, Sat. night was an embarrassment. This team is extremely thin and having players that were expected to contribute (Hohman, Kurker) out of the lineup for so long only exacerbates the weakness. You gotta figure that without all the drama the past few seasons, a line and a half wouldn't even be playing.
 
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BCeagle said:
York would have been fired if GDF had his way but the trustees stepped in, even if York had won the NCAA.

Thank goodness GDF is gone and Bates is the AD now. GDF was a control freak and an ***
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Are you serious? On what basis? He inherited a train wreck. By the end of his second season, the team was respectable.
 
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buoldtimer said:
Are you serious? On what basis? He inherited a train wreck. By the end of his second season, the team was respectable.
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Well I know it is hard to believe but after discussions with certain people here. You just don't know what went on here unless you talk to certain people here who know what went on and revealed it who have connections to the school. The only thing left here from that AD is the last hire, the basketball coach. Some people believe Don is over his head and bad in recruiting.

Look at how the football program went into a bottomless pit when he fired Jags and hired Spaz. He screwed other coaches too in other varsity sports. It would be hard to find anyone here with a good word on the old AD now.
 
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CollegeHockeyRinkReport said:
Best players on this year's team: O'Connor, O'Regan, Hohmann, Rodrigues, Roberto, Baillargeon, Lane…All six should be back next year with another year under belt. Defense needs to be upgraded and depth an issue. Quinn was working with very little depth in system when he arrived.
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I thought everything was okay according to you? Sorry to call you out, but perhaps I have been watching the games after all, no?

CollegeHockeyRinkReport said:
Freshmen - you're not watching the games if you don't see much out of Baillargeon, Roberto and Somerby.
Sophomores - Danny O'Regan, Matt Lane has made heck of an improvement, Grzelcyk has taken step back admittedly, Aksanen is good offensively, not as much in D zone.
Juniors - Rodrigues taken a step back this year, Hohmann was playing fine before injury.
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Anyway, everybody relax about the program. As I've been telling people for a long time, the program needed a big change from the previous regime. In Quinn's post game comments, he's seeing the same thing most of us are, which is the team is way too slow. This has been a problem previously at BU as the team tried to replicate the New Jersey Devils circa 1995 and win 1-0 games behind a good goalie and taking zero chances offensively.

No amount of coaching is going to make up for players who can't stake on a D-1 level. I expect a turnaroud by Quinn's 3rd year - O'Regan and O'Connor's senior year. If he gets his own recruits in here and they develop well, that should be the first test.

Regarding the fan experience, write to the athletic department and not Agganis management. Too high concessions prices, charging to much to watch a .500 team, forcing fans to pay for parking, etc. Those are separate issues from Quinn's ability to coach and recruit IMHO.
 
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As long as Quinn doesn't take the Texas job we'll be ok.

If a system is built over 40 years then there is going to be a valley before the next system is running effectively. That doesn't guarantee Quinn will make it better in 2-3 years, but anybody that thought it would get immediately better or better within 1 year hasn't rebuilt a lot of organizations in their time.

Assuming the program was on a downward trajectory when he got the job, Quinn's first order of business is to slow the descent, then level it and then ascend. In this case W's and L's aren't the only measurements of the programs progress so a few more L's in the short-term aren't cause to abandon ship.

Hey, we'd all love that miracle story of taking the other guy's team to the championship...have to think that was very unlikely if replacing a 40+ year guy and trying to rebuild the identity and foundation of the program...if BU hired a cheerleader to get 5 more wins out of them this year, we'd be in world of hurt 3 years from now. What the program needed was a guy capable of rebuilding the program, hopefully one that was able to answer the "how long do you see yourself in this role?" question with something better than "2-3 years". He didn't need to say 40 years but if the interviewer got a whiff of 'stepping stone' in his answer, they should have looked elsewhere.

BU hockey is not a stepping stone job.

If I were a trustee or even the AD, one of my goals would have been to install a guy that can look the parents of an 18 year old in the eye and tell them they should ship him to BU and he won't end up in the police blotter. Yeah, hea has to X and O and he has to win games but first and foremost, they couldn't risk a guy who wins and then gets hit by the NCAA or has a big scandal hit...the brand could not sustain that. The brand can sustain a sub-par year if the engineers are building the a new model that will recapture market share.
 
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it's not a stepping stone job strictly within college hockey but it is if the coach has NHL aspirations (not saying he does or doesn't)

that being said, even if the coach views it that way...what's his best chance of getting an NHL job? winning games. how do you win games? you recruit good players. being a stepping stone job doesn't have to be a bad thing.
 
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