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BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

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Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

Agree 100%. Interestingly, we used to hear about how Parker had droves of former players that would stay in close touch with him throughout their lives. And I do believe that used to be the case. I'm just not sure I see players from the last 5 - 10 years doing the same thing. Even a player we know to be very close - Travis Roy - heck, his injury was 15 years ago. (Wow time flies).

The key words are "I'm just not sure."
I'm not sure, either.

Parker's players, for the most part, feared AND loved him. At least for his first 30 years or so.
Are either of those still true anymore?
We really don't know, and trying to guess - while figuring out if he should stay or go - does a disservice to a man who deserves better.

Anyone that has been around for four decades in a competitive situation is going to have backers and detractors. Especially someone that has won a lot.
Two bad performances and the detractors are now out in droves.
I hope that Parker and the team aren't as quick to panic.

Are their some serious problems that need to be addressed? Certainly - defensive play, power play, motivation, consistent effort, goaltending concentration.
How those problems are addressed, or not, over the next five to six months will give us more to by on the state of the coaches/program.

I went to the UNH thread to see if Wildcats fans were ready to oust Dick Umile. They were more concerned with their program slipping due to realignments and financial constraints than pointing blame at a coach whose track record includes solid regular seasons and post-season disappointment.
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

some thoughts on motivation:

anybody that says "you shouldn't need to motivate" or "they are already motivated so bulletin board material shouldn't matter" has either never played sports at a highly competitive level or has gotten used to repeating what the aforementioned coach potatoes always say.

We will agree to disagree on that. I'd say that as people advance further and further in their sport, the less important this type of external motivation is. Take it to an extreme... do you think his coach really has to go in and give Michael Phelps a big pump up speach before a meet?
 
We will agree to disagree on that. I'd say that as people advance further and further in their sport, the less important this type of external motivation is. Take it to an extreme... do you think his coach really has to go in and give Michael Phelps a big pump up speach before a meet?

i wouldn't confuse single participant sports vs team sports.
nor would i compare a gold medal athlete to players who couldn't get recruited by bc. :D ;)
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

Apparently Joe Pereira's little brother at UMass called the BU program a bunch of snobs on the UMass hockey radio show. Interesting twitter debate from the BHB staff and Joe: http://twitter.com/#!/BOShockeyblog

Transcript of that part:

On why he chose UMass over BU:
"I think it's the coaching staff. I think it's the players as well. It's one thing, you know it's BU players, you know it's BU hockey. They kind of have that swagger to them, that snob sort of thing."
On if that attitude turned him off of BU:
"To an extent. It's just not me. I'm a blue collar guy. I don't like to get handed things. I felt like it was a good fit here."

Joe Pereira's response (Twitter)
"I guess you guys won't have to worry if Coach Parker can motivate the guys this weekend. Young player that hasn't learn[sic] to control his emotions before a big weekend. #putuporshutup #goodluck"

After listening to the show, Joe Pereira said this (Twitter):
"Just listen to the show "SNOBS" was never used. come on guys!! #overreaction "white collar why he picked umass. BU hockey gets the best players. wanted his own way."


Take from that what you will.
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

Transcript of that part:

On why he chose UMass over BU:
"I think it's the coaching staff. I think it's the players as well. It's one thing, you know it's BU players, you know it's BU hockey. They kind of have that swagger to them, that snob sort of thing."
On if that attitude turned him off of BU:
"To an extent. It's just not me. I'm a blue collar guy. I don't like to get handed things. I felt like it was a good fit here."

Joe Pereira's response (Twitter)
"I guess you guys won't have to worry if Coach Parker can motivate the guys this weekend. Young player that hasn't learn[sic] to control his emotions before a big weekend. #putuporshutup #goodluck"

After listening to the show, Joe Pereira said this (Twitter):
"Just listen to the show "SNOBS" was never used. come on guys!! #overreaction "white collar why he picked umass. BU hockey gets the best players. wanted his own way."


Take from that what you will.

By all accounts Mike was/is a better prospect than Joe. I assume BU wanted him? But of all reasons to pick UMass over anyone else...the coaching staff??? He probably doesn't even know that Toot is a Parker disciple.

He might not be a BU snob, but he certainly sounds like the typical UMass meathead.
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

By all accounts Mike was/is a better prospect than Joe. I assume BU wanted him? But of all reasons to pick UMass over anyone else...the coaching staff??? He probably doesn't even know that Toot is a Parker disciple.

BU recruited the younger Pereira, but wanted him to play a year of junior after graduating South Kent. He chose not to wait. Maybe he had that swagger/snob opinion back then, but the entry date was the primary factor in his decision.

BU had also recruited his South Kent linemate, Wade Megan, who was a year ahead of Pereira, to join the 2010 class, also after a year of junior. But with five forwards departing the national championship team and only two in the 2009 recruit class (Santana was a late addition), BU elected to bring Megan in sooner.
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

i wouldn't confuse single participant sports vs team sports.
nor would i compare a gold medal athlete to players who couldn't get recruited by bc. :D ;)

all of our gold medal guys are retired now...although we have a lot of 'participation medal' winners
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

We will agree to disagree on that. I'd say that as people advance further and further in their sport, the less important this type of external motivation is. Take it to an extreme... do you think his coach really has to go in and give Michael Phelps a big pump up speach before a meet?

This is not a team full of Michael Phelpses.
There are championship-winning professional teams that don't have that level of self-motivation.
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

This is not a team full of Michael Phelpses.
There are championship-winning professional teams that don't have that level of self-motivation.

I have something really vital to add, just a second, oh look, a Beverly Hillbillies Marathon....tomorrow I'm gonna make a big contribution to the thread
 
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