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BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

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Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

Just a question to those on the blame parker bandwagon, what would you like to see him do differently? More specific than "motivate the team" or "teach them to play defense." I'm not trying to inflame, and am on the fence about jumping full steam on the everything is parker's fault and the game has passed him by train, but I'm just curious as to some ideas of what he could do better and/or differently.
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

Watching BC and UND with the swagger this team had from 1990 to 1998 is really causing deep psychological trauma and the need to consume massive amounts of alcohol and drugs weekend they play.

seriously,just a classic statement ............is it called LMFAO that which i am doing?
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

Just a question to those on the blame parker bandwagon, what would you like to see him do differently? More specific than "motivate the team" or "teach them to play defense." I'm not trying to inflame, and am on the fence about jumping full steam on the everything is parker's fault and the game has passed him by train, but I'm just curious as to some ideas of what he could do better and/or differently.

I'd like to see Millan be able to play the puck more effectively. It seemed like he was only able to stop about 33% of the dump-ins this Saturday. The result was the BU defense was woefully out of position and resulting chaos...

Then I suppose there's the issue of the powerplay...They could do that a little better, no?
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

Just a question to those on the blame parker bandwagon, what would you like to see him do differently? More specific than "motivate the team" or "teach them to play defense." I'm not trying to inflame, and am on the fence about jumping full steam on the everything is parker's fault and the game has passed him by train, but I'm just curious as to some ideas of what he could do better and/or differently.

I think the best thing anybody on this team could do right now is just be honest. Stop saying the same things they've said for over two years now. Admit that they're having trouble getting up for games against lesser opponents, and say that whatever they're trying to do to fix it isn't working.

I think half the frustration here is that everyone is saying the same things, but nothing's changing. It's pointless for someone to say, "We learned that every little game counts. We can't take any team lightly. This is a tough conference. We need to do the little things right and stick together and hopefully things will change." That's what they've been saying, but that's not what they've been showing. At this point, I'm not expecting anything to change drastically, but when you say it will, then people start counting on it to happen.

What's so wrong with saying, "We didn't take this game as seriously as we should have. We need to figure out a way to, as a team, get ourselves more motivated for games against opponents that aren't brand-name teams. What we've been doing hasn't been working. We can't seem to get it to sink in that every game matters."

I personally don't think that's bulletin-board material. I don't think it's disrespectful to opponents. I don't see what the problem is with saying something like that. But hey, what do I know?
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

Fair points so far, and I agree with them all so far. Just in the interest of clarifying my own position, I certainly don't think nothing has to change from the coaching and team standpoint, and that they're doing everything right. Clearly, there are many things that need significant improvement right now. And Carmine, you mean that 1999 title right? :P
 
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Couldnt have said it better myself Harry. A second game last weekend would have kept this thread from exploding this week.
Have a hard time subscribing to theories about leadership problems at any level. This is a talented team that has the ability to go far. I'll need to see a whole lot more nights like Saturday to make me think otherwise.
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

Just a question to those on the blame parker bandwagon, what would you like to see him do differently?

Retire.
Stop booting students for skipping optional practices to study.
Lay off the sauce and remember to take his meds.
Take some blame.
 
10/22 (loss to hc)
I thought defensively we were pathetic in our own zone. I think what happened is they made it 1-0 and we were playing OK. And then they make it 1-0 and then we get two quick goals on two very pretty plays to make it 2-1 and if you watch the way my team played after that it was pathetic. It was, ‘Oh, we’re all set now, we’ll make some pretty plays, we’ll dance around. We got beat to every loose puck, we got out-muscled in front of our own net, we were pathetic killing penalties, and as bad as we were they were good at all that stuff.

10/14 (loss to pc)
"I thought we weren’t ready for the speed of the game. They blew us out of the building the first ten minutes of the game. I thought even though we didn’t score we settled down a little bit in the first, then they got the third goal, but we were playing a little bit better in the second half of the first period. I thought we played well in the second, but once we made it 3-2 we started thinking, ‘Well, we’re OK now.’ We didn’t play anywhere near as hard as we had. We played better in the third at times, but they were faster with the puck and I thought they played harder without the puck than we did."

3/12 (loss to nu)
“I thought that we were tentative to start the game — trying not to lose, not really sure of themselves, and I don’t think we’ve been sure of ourselves lately,” Parker said."

3/09 (loss to nu)
“I thought we got beat by a team that was a little more hungry and determined than we were tonight,” Parker said. “I thought Northeastern played extremely well tonight. I thought we played well in the third period. Halfway through the second we came on a little bit. But we were the victim of a couple of tough goals. It was the second game in a row that we gave up a faceoff goal on an interference play that isn’t called. That was tough to watch — made it 2–1 with two minutes to go in the first period. Other than that, some guys played well, and some guys didn’t have nights anywhere near what we needed them to have. We had some bad puck luck, and they had some pretty good puck luck.”

3/5 (loss to nu)
“Rule No. 1 is don’t beat yourself, and we just beat ourselves tonight,” BU coach Jack Parker said. “Stupid penalties, bad plays, bad passes, turnovers. We weren’t focused. It was disguised with us getting 44 shots. But we get up 1–0, and once again this team does not know how to play for 60 minutes.

“They haven’t learned that lesson all year long. I thought we played poorly last night and squeaked out a win, and tonight we played poorly and got beat. I couldn’t have been more disappointed with about 80 percent of my guys.”

2/14 (loss to hu)
“I thought that was an embarrassing display by my team,” Terriers coach Jack Parker said. “It looks pretty good: We got 49 shots to their 29. But in reality we didn’t come to play; we thought that the game was over at any time. ...

“We get what should be the game-winning goal, and then we go to sleep again. Give Harvard credit for not dying after all they’ve been through this year. They competed hard until the end. We didn’t compete nearly as hard as we should’ve competed.”

12/3 (loss to bc)
“I thought one team played very well tonight, and it wasn’t us, unfortunately,” Parker said. “I was flabbergasted at how inept we were in many areas of the game — not [in terms of] effort, but we just didn’t execute. All in all, I don’t think one of my guys had a good night tonight. A lot of it had to do with how hard BC played and how they jumped us. They made us jumpy with the puck; we didn’t execute with passing at all. I was really impressed with them. We haven’t had a stinker all year,” Parker said. “It’s just too bad we had a stinker in front of a big crowd with our big rival. But part of it has to do with the fact that that’s a really experienced, talented team. There’s a reason why they were picked as the preseason No. 1 in the nation.”

2/26 (loss to uvm)
"The focus, the speed, the attention to detail, the physical play from the team in black as opposed to the team in white was like night and day," Boston University head coach Jack Parker said. "We werent ready to play, we masked it at times during the course of the game but in general, they out-fought us for every puck. We both needed it badly, they got it because they wanted it," Parker said. "We may have needed it but we didnt want it that bad and I was very disappointed in my team."

12/11 (loss to rpi)
I" thought we played pretty well in the first period“made two mistakes and literally gave them two goals," Parker said. "And then in the third period, we were afraid to lose so we lost. And we were a little exhausted: We self-destructed in the second period with all the penalties. We go into the third period leading 3–2 and almost got run out of the building, I thought they beat us to every puck, were more physical than us, looked a lot faster than we did. I really think were just Oh my God — what if we lose this game?"

3/21 (loss to uvm)
“I was disappointed in our effort tonight,” Parker said. “I thought we played okay at the start of the game, but when we got up one-nothing we played like it was four-nothing ... It looked as if the game was won by a one-minute stint with a couple of goals, but the game was won by how hard they played in their zone in front of their goalie.”
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

Just a question to those on the blame parker bandwagon, what would you like to see him do differently? More specific than "motivate the team" or "teach them to play defense." I'm not trying to inflame, and am on the fence about jumping full steam on the everything is parker's fault and the game has passed him by train, but I'm just curious as to some ideas of what he could do better and/or differently.

I think the point is that he really can not/will not do things differently at this point in his coaching career.
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

Just a question to those on the blame parker bandwagon, what would you like to see him do differently? More specific than "motivate the team" or "teach them to play defense." I'm not trying to inflame, and am on the fence about jumping full steam on the everything is parker's fault and the game has passed him by train, but I'm just curious as to some ideas of what he could do better and/or differently.

It's a valid question, but it just reinforces what the real problem is, in my opinion. The problem is not X's and O's. Sure, we've all played arm-chair quarterback at times, and we might think he should have started Rollheiser in this game or that game, or that he should have played the one man forecheck against North Dakota in the '97 title game after it was so successful two nights earlier agains Michigan.

The problem is not something I can give the answer to, but neither can Parker. Unfortuanately, where I am just a fan, he is the coach. He can't get his teams to go out and give a consistent effort, night in and night out. I recognize that any team with 18-21 year-olds is going to have the occasional let down. Even our best teams of all time have had the 8-1 spanking at PC. But this inconsistent play has been a problem for over 10 years now. It wasn't a problem in the 90's. BU was known for being the hardest working team out there. They would manage to play an aggressive 3 man forecheck and yet still not be caught out of position. And they played that way every night. Over time the consistency has been lost.

I'll ask again if anyone can point to a game in the last five to eight years (of significance), where we beat someone we shouldn't have. I suppose there is a Beanpot win or two against BC in there somewhere, but I can't think of others.

Great post Mookie. You read my mind.
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

I think Maine fans would disagree with this statement although we're reaching the end of their dynasty the further and further we get from that 2000 title.

I think Maine fans would trade Tim Whitehead for Jack Parker in a second.

How many NCAA titles have Maine won since 2000? How many Hockey East titles? How many times have they failed to earn home ice, or missed the playoffs. UNH might have provided a better argument - but only in the regular season. Maybe.
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

I think everyone is putting a little too much into what Parker says at his press conferences after every loss or bad tie in the last year. He obviously has a set of things he is going to say to the media cause he has to talk to them. Whether it is the most interesting thing in the world or not, he obviously has his reasons for it. Every presser is the same with him singling out 3 to 4 guys who played well and not singling anyone out in the negative, which includes himself I'll give you. He deserves some of the blame for the inconsistency but it is also October and while every game counts out there and it is nice to start off 7-0 if you can, it is early to overreact to a win against Denver or a loss to HC. The team is obviously still fighting some inconsistency and if they don't fix it, the game could be passing Parker by but you can't judge this season on the first four games or what he says to the media. I am sure what he says to the team and coaching staff is pretty different than what he says to the media. He isn't going to be Rex Ryan up there promising national titles. Teams are always going to have rough patches lets just hope this season this is it just like 09 when the back to back home losses to UVM in October was probably the lowpoint of the season.
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

I think everyone is putting a little too much into what Parker says at his press conferences after every loss or bad tie in the last year. He obviously has a set of things he is going to say to the media cause he has to talk to them. Whether it is the most interesting thing in the world or not, he obviously has his reasons for it. Every presser is the same with him singling out 3 to 4 guys who played well and not singling anyone out in the negative, which includes himself I'll give you. He deserves some of the blame for the inconsistency but it is also October and while every game counts out there and it is nice to start off 7-0 if you can, it is early to overreact to a win against Denver or a loss to HC. The team is obviously still fighting some inconsistency and if they don't fix it, the game could be passing Parker by but you can't judge this season on the first four games or what he says to the media. I am sure what he says to the team and coaching staff is pretty different than what he says to the media. He isn't going to be Rex Ryan up there promising national titles. Teams are always going to have rough patches lets just hope this season this is it just like 09 when the back to back home losses to UVM in October was probably the lowpoint of the season.

Very good post.

Through 10 games last season, BU was ranked No. 1 in the country. Was anyone calling for Parker's head then?
Fair enough, the season went downhill after that with the disappointments not qualifying for the NCAAs and a fourth place finish in the Beanpot.

The inconsistencies in effort and execution are frustrating, for sure.
Parker also got some people against him because they didn't like how he handled the Glass and Saponaris situations. Some of the people are not BU fans, and take delight in trying to paint Parker, and the program, with a darkened brush to hurt recruiting.
Some people may not like his style, or feel his time has past.

For better or worse, this is our team for this year. I was embarrassed as a BU fan by the effort and result against Holy Cross. But in no way am I even remotely ready to give up on the season.

Now, does anyone have an update on Cisse's status???
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

Did hokydad say something about it on this thread or another one? I couldn't find it going back to page 7. Thanks.

Not sure where it is, but he mentioned potential locker room problems/selfishness before the season started.

This is clearly no longer the case.

Outside of 2009, you're just realizing this now?

Couldnt have said it better myself Harry. A second game last weekend would have kept this thread from exploding this week.
Have a hard time subscribing to theories about leadership problems at any level. This is a talented team that has the ability to go far. I'll need to see a whole lot more nights like Saturday to make me think otherwise.

I don't care if BU beat the Bruins, losing to HC at home would have resulted in an explosion. Yes, BU has some talent, but how can you say right now that they have the ability to go far? You certainly can't base it off the last couple years.

I think Maine fans would trade Tim Whitehead for Jack Parker in a second.

How many NCAA titles have Maine won since 2000? How many Hockey East titles? How many times have they failed to earn home ice, or missed the playoffs. UNH might have provided a better argument - but only in the regular season. Maybe.

They'd take anyone over Timmy...that ain't saying much. Anyway, it's a lot easier to recruit to BU than it is Maine.

I think everyone is putting a little too much into what Parker says at his press conferences after every loss or bad tie in the last year. He obviously has a set of things he is going to say to the media cause he has to talk to them. Whether it is the most interesting thing in the world or not, he obviously has his reasons for it. Every presser is the same with him singling out 3 to 4 guys who played well and not singling anyone out in the negative, which includes himself I'll give you. He deserves some of the blame for the inconsistency but it is also October and while every game counts out there and it is nice to start off 7-0 if you can, it is early to overreact to a win against Denver or a loss to HC. The team is obviously still fighting some inconsistency and if they don't fix it, the game could be passing Parker by but you can't judge this season on the first four games or what he says to the media. I am sure what he says to the team and coaching staff is pretty different than what he says to the media. He isn't going to be Rex Ryan up there promising national titles. Teams are always going to have rough patches lets just hope this season this is it just like 09 when the back to back home losses to UVM in October was probably the lowpoint of the season.

The last year? This is no new thing with Parker. He's been throwing his team under the bus for years while at the same time refusing to take any responsibility. That's what some of your fellow BU fans don't like. I'm not sure what you've read or haven't been reading, but he absolutely single guys out negatively as well. Every game counts. There is no excuse for losing to HC at home. These types of losses are what can keep you of the tournament at the end.

Through 10 games last season, BU was ranked No. 1 in the country. Was anyone calling for Parker's head then?

Are you Dan Duquette? Seriously, you're using being ranked #1 after ten games as an argument in favor of Parker?
 
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Parker also got some people against him because they didn't like how he handled the Glass and Saponaris situations. Some of the people are not BU fans, and take delight in trying to paint Parker, and the program, with a darkened brush to hurt recruiting.

Of course we don't have the 100% truthful and full story of these moves, despite some great in-depth reporting from the Freep writers last year, but if the information we do have on both is true, I don't mind the handling of the Saponari move, but I disagree with the move and the handling of the Glass move. By all accounts, the Glass move seemed to be the result of some miscommunications and some moderate missteps by Glass. But again, who knows what's true and what's not.
 
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Are you Dan Duquette? Seriously, you're using being ranked #1 after ten games as an argument in favor of Parker?

No, but makes even less sense to call for his head after four games this season. Unless you wanted him out before the season started, and you'd still be thinking that way - but not posting anything - if they were 4-0 instead of 2-2 with two strong performances and two stinkers.

In the past six years - BC has won 4 Hockey East titles and 2 NCAA championships; BU has won 2 Hockey East titles and 1 NCAA championship. The rest of Hockey East hasn't won anything.
 
Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

1. Regarding Parker's refusal to fix the blame on coaching: No one knows what he says in meetings among himself, Bavis, Powers and Geragosian (as well as their predecessors over the years). Aside from Bill Belichick, can anyone cite an instance in which any coach in any sport has cited bad coaching as the cause of a loss or sub-standard performance? I can't recall any. My speculation is that coaches do not want to give players an excuse or crutch for losing a game or giving less than 100%. In the privacy of the coaching office, perhaps coaching failures are a topic of discussion.

2. I think Parker has been saying the same things about the performance of his teams since, approximately, December 1973. He has a public forum for these comments that he didn't have until the last few seasons.
 
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