BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

edit - the aux. scoreboard on the student end has been lowered quite a bit, so that it is much more visable, so that change should be quite noticable...

Am I the only one offended by the implication that it's up to NLFX to "put a few qarters" in for tunes? Why is it up to a company that already donates quite a bit to BSU hockey, to donate more? If someone wants more music, better intro's (which, BTW, are pretty good - and, if you go over to UND, they've had the same intro for at least 2-3 years...), etc., put some money up yourself! And don't forget, BSU just spent a lot of money on the "BSU area" (note that the city and state provided the four walls of the Sanford Center, and BSU was responsible for everything else - weight room equipment, locker room stuff, training room equipment, need I go on?), and some stuff has had to be left out. Good lord - it's like everyone wants something for nothing.

Great to hear that the scoreboard at the other end has been lowered. From our seats in Row 8 of section L, one of the speakers blocked the time on that scoreboard.

And you are right Moose, it is BSU's responsibility to pay for the "game day atmosphere", not NLFX. And from what I have heard, the monies the hockey program has spent in the BSU area put a very favorable impression into the recruits' minds. I guess I can do without some of the fan "comforts" if the money spent is going to get BSU the higher level of recruits. After all, I am there to watch the product on the ice!

 

[Upper Deck]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

Am I the only one offended by the implication that it's up to NLFX to "put a few qarters" in for tunes? Why is it up to a company that already donates quite a bit to BSU hockey, to donate more? If someone wants more music, better intro's (which, BTW, are pretty good - and, if you go over to UND, they've had the same intro for at least 2-3 years...), etc., put some money up yourself! And don't forget, BSU just spent a lot of money on the "BSU area" (note that the city and state provided the four walls of the Sanford Center, and BSU was responsible for everything else - weight room equipment, locker room stuff, training room equipment, need I go on?), and some stuff has had to be left out. Good lord - it's like everyone wants something for nothing.

I'm certainly not trying to offend anyone - my comment was tongue-in-cheek. However as fans, paying a lot for season tickets and BP donations, we have a right to have a voice on the game experience don't we? I know of many BSU fans who believe the music and the game experience has gotten somewhat stale. Therefore, wouldn't it make sense to change up the music and/or intro clips? It has to be one of the easier game production items to change. How does NLFX obtain their music - do they go on iTunes and download - or how is it done?

 

[Upper Deck]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

Great to hear that the scoreboard at the other end has been lowered. From our seats in Row 8 of section L, one of the speakers blocked the time on that scoreboard.

And you are right Moose, it is BSU's responsibility to pay for the "game day atmosphere", not NLFX. And from what I have heard, the monies the hockey program has spent in the BSU area put a very favorable impression into the recruits' minds. I guess I can do without some of the fan "comforts" if the money spent is going to get BSU the higher level of recruits. After all, I am there to watch the product on the ice!

I agree 100% - hockey first and foremost. However, I would guess maybe half of the people at a BSU game can't name more than three player's names and are there for the entertainment - which is fine. I'd be fine with good ol school introductions, but, again, it's entertainment, too. I'd be fine with the band playing instead of piped in musics but again . . .

Ya gotta keep the kids, teens, moms and businesses happy, or it's tougher to keep the season ticket sales. This all comes back to gameday experience.

 

[moose97]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

I'm certainly not trying to offend anyone - my comment was tongue-in-cheek. However as fans, paying a lot for season tickets and BP donations, we have a right to have a voice on the game experience don't we?

You want me to be blunt? No, it doesn't. BSU hires people to take care of that kind of stuff. I'm sure you wouldn't want some guy off the street to walk into your office and start telling you how to do your job...

I know of many BSU fans who believe the music and the game experience has gotten somewhat stale. Therefore, wouldn't it make sense to change up the music and/or intro clips? It has to be one of the easier game production items to change.

Music, yes, video, no. Pay attention to the video a bit closer this weekend. Sure, the base intro the Frozen Four and history part is the same, but note that there are video clips from the UND and other series in there in the other part. And as to that base "history" video? It cost several thousand dollars ($5000 sounds right to me) to put togehter. Again, if you want a new one each weekend, pony up some cash and I'm sure something could be worked out...

How does NLFX obtain their music - do they go on iTunes and download - or how is it done?

Um, no. There are groups like ASCAP and BMI that collect royalty fees for music played in front of an audience. Radio stations pay fees and so do venues who play music on a recorded basis. Look at it this way: when you "buy" music on iTunes or a CD, you are essentially buying the right to listen to that song yourself. Paying ASCAP or BMI royalties acknowledges that you are duplicating a performance of said artists music, and that artist needs to be compensated for, essentially, each person that hears the song. Fees are calculated based on how many people listen and how often the artists music is played.

That said, the venue is responsible for paying the ASCAP and BMI fees. NLFX likely gets their music from companies like TM Studios with their HitDisc series. Also, noting that the venue or NLFX has the music on hand doesn't mean that it will be played either. Remember that guy I mentioned above who doesn't want to be told how to do his job?

 

[Upper Deck]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

You want me to be blunt? No, it doesn't. BSU hires people to take care of that kind of stuff. I'm sure you wouldn't want some guy off the street to walk into your office and start telling you how to do your job...

If they're paying my salary, yes - much like we are paying their's. Forgot about ASCAP/BMI. I imagine that's why the limitations. I really like the "history video", but the "H*ll Yeah" intro with the same clips is a little stale. I'm not trying to be a smart ***, but I can edit and change out clips very easily on iMovie - I suppose it's a more complicated process with the Sanford video system.

It would be very cool if BSU/Sanford-Venueworks/Pioneer/Lakeland TV broadcast wrote an article about what goes into gameday production and the costs involved, time spent, how it's done etc.

 

[moose97]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

If they're paying my salary, yes - much like we are paying their's. Forgot about ASCAP/BMI. I imagine that's why the limitations. I really like the "history video", but the "H*ll Yeah" intro with the same clips is a little stale. I'm not trying to be a smart ***, but I can edit and change out clips very easily on iMovie - I suppose it's a more complicated process with the Sanford video system.

It would be very cool if BSU/Sanford-Venueworks/Pioneer/Lakeland TV broadcast wrote an article about what goes into gameday production and the costs involved, time spent, how it's done etc.

This strikes me a funny, because the history video hasn't changed one bit, while I know for a fact that the Hell Yeah video has changed... Now, if you think it's campy, that's another story.

I'll mention gameday production as an intermission topic for Lakeland and see if there's any interest.

 

[moose97]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

If they're paying my salary, yes - much like we are paying their's. Forgot about ASCAP/BMI. I imagine that's why the limitations. I really like the "history video", but the "H*ll Yeah" intro with the same clips is a little stale. I'm not trying to be a smart ***, but I can edit and change out clips very easily on iMovie - I suppose it's a more complicated process with the Sanford video system.

It would be very cool if BSU/Sanford-Venueworks/Pioneer/Lakeland TV broadcast wrote an article about what goes into gameday production and the costs involved, time spent, how it's done etc.

Oh, and on this point, just because you buy one Walmart stock doesn't mean you can boss around the girl at the check-out...

 

[Upper Deck]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

This strikes me a funny, because the history video hasn't changed one bit, while I know for a fact that the Hell Yeah video has changed... Now, if you think it's campy, that's another story.

I'll mention gameday production as an intermission topic for Lakeland and see if there's any interest.

Moose, I know you're very tied in with what goes into production - more so than us common folk. Obviously, there's a lot of misconceptions out there when it comes to production/costs. I'm just relaying (and agree) with what a lot of people out there think about the atmosphere/gameday experience. If I was in BSU's (and related gameday production) shoes, I'd be happy because people care, are passionate and want a good product on the ice and a good experience for their dollar. If it's cost prohibitive, a good article on what goes into everything would be a very good PR move for this year and to help their case for next year.

I will agree to disagree: season ticket holders have a right to voice their pro's/con's about the product on the ice and the atmosphere surrounding it - concessions, atmosphere, etc.

 

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

Here is this week's installment of Future and Former Beavers and their stats:

As of noon on 01/18/11

FUTURE BEAVERS

Mitch Cain-Des Moines (USHL) 28 GP, 8G-4A-12 Pts., 64 PIM

Brad Robbins-Penticton (BCHL) 26 GP, 6G-8A-14 Pts., 6 PIM
*********Sioux City (USHL) 13 GP, 5G-6A-11 Pts., 6 PIM

Tyler Tosunian-Pembroke (COJHL) 44 GP, 25G-60A-85 Pts., 32 PIM

Sam Windle-Chicago (USHL) 27 GP, 4G-4A-8 Pts., 15 PIM

Matt Pappavessios-Lincoln (USHL) 17 GP, 3G-7A-10 Pts., 12 PIM

Christian Folin-Fargo (USHL) 12 GP, 2G-2A-4 Pts.
*********Austin (NAHL) 10 GP, 1G-5A-6 Pts., 0 PIM

Danny Mattson-Chicago (USHL) 20 GP, 4G-7A-11 Pts., 4 PIM


FORMER BEAVERS

Cody Bostock-Braehead Clan (ELITE) 35 GP, 8G-13A-21 Pts, 52 PIM

Matt Climie-San Antonio Rampage (AHL) 26GP 16W-10L-0SOL, 2.39 GAA, 92.2 SV%, 3 Shutout, 3 Assists
*********Phoenix Coyotes (NHL) 1 GP, 0-0-0, 1.88 GAA, 93.8 SV%

Brendan Cook-Braehead Clan (ELITE) 35 GP, 24G-22A-46 Pts, 22 PIM

Matt Dalton-Providence Bruins(AHL) 7 GP, 4W-3L-0SOL, 2.70 GAA, 91.8 SV%, 2 Shutout
**********Reading Royals (ECHL) 18 GP, 11W-6L-1SOL, 2.88 GAA, 91.2 SV%, 2 Shutouts

Luke Erickson-Rapid City Rush (CHL) 6 GP, 2G-2A-4 Pts, 0PIM
**********Arizona Sundogs (CHL) 24 GP, 19G-17A-36 Pts, 26 PIM

Matt Francis-Gwinnett Gladiators (ECHL) 14 GP, 1G-4A-5 Pts, 8 PIM (Out for the Season with a separated shoulder)

Ryan Huddy-Las Vegas Wranglers (ECHL) 34 GP, 18G-14A-32 Pts, 10 PIM
*********San Antonio Rampage (AHL) 1 GP, 0G-0A-0 Pts., 0 PIM

Tyler Lehrke-Rio Grande Valley Bees (CHL) 20 GP, 3G-4A-7 Pts, 6 PIM

Brandon Marino-Quad City Mallards (CHL) 29 GP, 3G-15A-18 Pts, 10 PIM

Andrew Martens-Wichita Thunder (CHL) 34 GP, 7G-18A-25 Pts, 26 PIM

Chris McKelvie-Connecticut Whale (AHL) 15 GP, 1G-2A-3 Pts, 15 PIM
**********Greenville Road Warriors (ECHL) 16 GP, 3G-3A-6 Pts, 20 PIM

Andrew Murray-Columbus BlueJackets (NHL) 15 GP, 2G-3A-5 Pts, 4 PIM

Matt Pope-San Antonio Rampage (AHL) 26 GP, 2G-3A-5 Pts, 18 PIM

Tyler Scofield-Kiagenfurt (Austria) 21 GP, 4G-9A-13 Pts, 10 PIM

Rob Sirianni-Brunico SG (Italy) 34 GP, 25G-42A-67 Pts, 16 PIM

Nathan Schwartzbauer-Dayton Gems (ECHL) 31 GP, 0G-1A-1 Pts, 18 PIM

Riley Weselowski-Rapid City Rush (CHL) 37 GP, 3G-9A-12 Pts, 52 PIM

 

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

Congrats to Ryan Adams on being named WCHA Defensive Player of the Week!

http://www.wcha.com/men/presarch/201101/jan18wpm.php

 

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

Looks like Matt Dalton could be in Providence for a while!

http://www.thebruinsblog.net/2011/01/19/dalton-dealing-well-with-daunting-task-for-providence/

 

[GuitarNut]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

I can't believe people are whining about the intro video and music being played. We have a brand new state of the art facility. What next "the seats aren't cushy"??? I actually have the Rev Theory CD and if you like good headbangin music, (like I do)you'll like the rest of it too. I think we should be talking about how well the Beavs are playing and maybe some of the new recruits coming in. Sheees!!! Alright.............................I've vented!

 

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

I am just hoping someone got my message and they have/will do something about people trying to walk between sections using Row 8....... I don't see people trying to use a row, any row, at the Xcel Center to walk between sections.

 

[true2BSU]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

I feel its a shame to have a college team, in a college game, in a college town with a LIVE college band being prohibited from playing the school song after a goal.

I also disagree with the "be happy with what you have" scenario... unless people voice their concerns, and voice their displeasures as well as their kudos, you end up with people making decisions about everyone based upon the views of a few. People believe if you say nothing that everything they do must be great. Commenting about changes creates discussion, discussion creates change, change creates atmosphere. No harm in that.

Standing by saying nothing creates illusions of perfection and resistance to change. People take production that they have created very personal. And ownership of intellectual property is great. But resistance to change and resistance to input only hinders that quality of the final product. The production of a truly great fan experience does not happen in a vacuum.

As far as I know there are no royalty fees associated with playing the school song.

 

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

I feel its a shame to have a college team, in a college game, in a college town with a LIVE college band being prohibited from playing the school song after a goal.

I also disagree with the "be happy with what you have" scenario... unless people voice their concerns, and voice their displeasures as well as their kudos, you end up with people making decisions about everyone based upon the views of a few. People believe if you say nothing that everything they do must be great. Commenting about changes creates discussion, discussion creates change, change creates atmosphere. No harm in that.

Standing by saying nothing creates illusions of perfection and resistance to change. People take production that they have created very personal. And ownership of intellectual property is great. But resistance to change and resistance to input only hinders that quality of the final product. The production of a truly great fan experience does not happen in a vacuum.

As far as I know there are no royalty fees associated with playing the school song.

From what I have heard, there are suppose to be some microphones added into the band area so that they can be heard better throughout the arena. The reason I was given for them not doing it up to this point is that the school song would only be heard by part of the arena. Or so I have been told.

Lets discuss the 2:00 closing time for bars!!!

 

[Upper Deck]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

I am just hoping someone got my message and they have/will do something about people trying to walk between sections using Row 8....... I don't see people trying to use a row, any row, at the Xcel Center to walk between sections.

Yeah, hopefully that settles down with fans' knowledge of the rink. That's a stinker for those in row 8.

Same goes for fans getting out of their seats or going to their seats during play. Wait - for - the - whistle! It would help if they said something over the PA before the puck drops each night - and educate the ushers (some do/some don't allow fans to head to their seats during play).

I'd like a LOUD, unique horn after a goal and then have the band play the school song. Or, loud, unique horn, some piped in music (I think it's "wooo who" or something) and then the school song.

Now, about that South Shore Development and 2pm closings . . . (seriously, any news on any committed bars/restaurants?)

 

[true2BSU]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

Anyone have info about where Rendle would be in the WCHA rookie of the year running? I hope he is being mentioned as someone to watch.

 

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

Now, about that South Shore Development and 2pm closings . . . (seriously, any news on any committed bars/restaurants?)

http://www.facebook.com/lakebemidjilodge?v=wall

Everything I have heard at that there is an apartment/condo development (around $6 million, I believe) that wants to go in and they want Zorbaz to be a tenant. Zorbaz won't come in unless the city extends the closing to 2 AM. The bars already established and the cops don't want it, but the City Council passed it at their December meeting, but with the new council members being seated in January, they are looking at overturning it. Now, Beltrami County, who has had a 2 AM closing for bars outside of City Limits, has decided they want to go with a 1 AM closing time. Why, after all these years they want to change, I don't know.

What little bit I know about this is that the 2 AM closing is optional, you don't have to do it. I know a bar owner in another area of the state that has the option of the 2 AM closing, and he opted not to since the associated costs (extra license fees, staff, other overhead costs) was not going to be off set by the profits made from the extra hour. But a bar down the street did opt to go with a 2 AM closing.

If a 2 AM closing is going to be what it takes to get the South Shore land off the taxpayers and back onto the tax rolls, then I think it is a no brainer to do it. Also, it gives you another bargaining chip for conventions against other parts of the state. But then again, I am an "outsider" and my opinion doesn't count.......

 

[Upper Deck]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

http://www.facebook.com/lakebemidjilodge?v=wall
If a 2 AM closing is going to be what it takes to get the South Shore land off the taxpayers and back onto the tax rolls, then I think it is a no brainer to do it. Also, it gives you another bargaining chip for conventions against other parts of the state. But then again, I am an "outsider" and my opinion doesn't count.......

I agree 100%. Sometimes, it's hard to see the forest through the trees.

 

[Upper Deck]

Re: BSU '10-'11: Can the Beav's Read the W and be in the Hunt?

Anyone have info about where Rendle would be in the WCHA rookie of the year running? I hope he is being mentioned as someone to watch.

I'd say Zucker from DU, Schwartz CC and Faulk UMD are pretty far ahead of him.