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Brown Bears 2010 - 2011 - Dawn of a new Era

Brown Bears 2010 - 2011 - Dawn of a new Era


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Re: Happy New Year to All

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don't seem to get that you are far detached from reality?


I'm pretty sure we got it. yep, we got it.
Well, I think this past weekend should serve as a reality check. Mercyhurst blasted Brown with an 18-0 run with no apparent mercy for the Brown team. In my history as a coach, you only did this to a team whose coach you didn't respect so what's the message here? It's a shame!!! The Brown players never quit despite daunting odds. They held their heads high - as well they should - but their coach was outcoached again. Or is this another rebuilding year? May I suggest we start rebuilding with new coaches. Obviously, this duo isn't getting the job done.
 
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Well, I think this past weekend should serve as a reality check. Mercyhurst blasted Brown with an 18-0 run with no apparent mercy for the Brown team. In my history as a coach, you only did this to a team whose coach you didn't respect so what's the message here? It's a shame!!! The Brown players never quit despite daunting odds. They held their heads high - as well they should - but their coach was outcoached again. Or is this another rebuilding year? May I suggest we start rebuilding with new coaches. Obviously, this duo isn't getting the job done.

Oh, please, [impolite acronym deleted by the software].

Mercyhurst is one of the top programs in the country. And you, with your "history as a coach" come up with "this duo isn't getting the job done"?

Really?
 
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Well, I think this past weekend should serve as a reality check. Mercyhurst blasted Brown with an 18-0 run with no apparent mercy for the Brown team. In my history as a coach, you only did this to a team whose coach you didn't respect so what's the message here? It's a shame!!! The Brown players never quit despite daunting odds. They held their heads high - as well they should - but their coach was outcoached again. Or is this another rebuilding year? May I suggest we start rebuilding with new coaches. Obviously, this duo isn't getting the job done.

Obviously, you and hcky85 would be winning multiple national championships with the same players and landing the entire US Olympic 18U team as recruits for the repeat effort.
 
Re: Happy New Year to All

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Mercyhurst is one of the top programs in the country.

Sadly, many of us can recall the years when Brown women's hockey was one of the top three or four programs in the country. And we miss those years. In 1999-2000, we finished first in the ECAC. I believe that may have been the year we went to the women's Frozen Four.

That being said, applause for the current team for giving their all.
 
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In 1999-2000, we finished first in the ECAC. I believe that may have been the year we went to the women's Frozen Four.
Brown was the top seed in 2000, the last year that the tournament was conducted by the AWCHA rather than the NCAA. The Bears made it to the Frozen Four and advanced to the title game in 2002.
 
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Sadly, many of us can recall the years when Brown women's hockey was one of the top three or four programs in the country. And we miss those years. In 1999-2000, we finished first in the ECAC. I believe that may have been the year we went to the women's Frozen Four.

That being said, applause for the current team for giving their all.

People seem to think Brown success has was a thing of the distant past. They forget the 2005-2006 season when Brown cranked off some impressive wins and lost to Harvard 4-3 in the ECAC finals. That year Hayley Moore was a soph with 25 goals, Shipe and Stock were solid between the pipes, and things looked pretty good for continued success. However, with the expansion of women's D1 programs and scholarships, the top players that once would have likely become Bears stopped going to Brown. All it takes is a year or two of losing out on top recruits and your success goes to hell in a hand basket in a hurry.
 
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People seem to think Brown success has was a thing of the distant past.... All it takes is a year or two of losing out on top recruits and your success goes to hell in a hand basket in a hurry.

Yeah, some other teams come to mind here, (including UNH!). This not unique to Brown. The difference is that no one is asking for their coaches heads on a platter there because of it ...at least not yet. :0
 
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Yeah, some other teams come to mind here, (including UNH!). This not unique to Brown. The difference is that no one is asking for their coaches heads on a platter there because of it ...at least not yet. :0
It's kind of a stretch to compare UNH to Brown here. The Wildcats were an NCAA team last year and for the four years before that. As bad as they've struggled this season, they've won 10 games. It's been four years since Brown won 10 in a full season. When a team does well for a long time, people's expectations are raised. Bitter former parents aside, you'd expect some discontent with the recent records. More troubling may be the apathy and disappearance of other long-time fans. For comparison, Flarrow is unhappy in the Union thread, but is still going to games and talking about the team. At this point, Brown is more like Union than UNH.
 
Re: Brown Bears 2010 - 2011 - Dawn of a new Era

Hello... IMHO, you can take Brown and St Cloud, penalize them for being so bad (at hockey) and put them on probation. If they can't get their act together within two years, send them to DIII... 10-0? 12-0? Come on...
 
QUOTE=rugrats;4997568]Hello... IMHO, you can take Brown and St Cloud, penalize them for being so bad (at hockey) and put them on probation. If they can't get their act together within two years, send them to DIII... 10-0? 12-0? Come on...[/QUOTE]

Hello? What in god's name would make you think that D3 would want either one of them?
 
Re: Brown Bears 2010 - 2011 - Dawn of a new Era

Yes that's the answer. What about Union and Sacred Heart? Why not include them? What's the Criteria for being thrown out of DI? How long do you give the "new" DI teams to compete?............ Wow
 
Re: Brown Bears 2010 - 2011 - Dawn of a new Era

Hello... IMHO, you can take Brown and St Cloud, penalize them for being so bad (at hockey) and put them on probation. If they can't get their act together within two years, send them to DIII... 10-0? 12-0? Come on...

Aside from the fact that it is a ridiculous idea, you cannot do this with schools designated as D1 by the NCAA. Not sure about St-Cloud, but Brown, like all Ivy schools are D1 designated, hence any varsity sport from those schools must be at the D1 level as governed by NCAA rules.

D2/D3 designated schools are allowed to field ONE sport at the D1 level. Many northern US D3 designated schools use hockey as their designated D1 sport. IIRC, Vermont, SLU and Clarkson are examples that fall into that category.
 
Re: Brown Bears 2010 - 2011 - Dawn of a new Era

Yes that's the answer. What about Union and Sacred Heart? Why not include them? What's the Criteria for being thrown out of DI? How long do you give the "new" DI teams to compete?............ Wow

Careful my friend, they might just be tempted to roll you guys into this as well! ;)
 
Re: Brown Bears 2010 - 2011 - Dawn of a new Era

D2/D3 designated schools are allowed to field ONE sport at the D1 level. Many northern US D3 designated schools use hockey as their designated D1 sport. IIRC, Vermont, SLU and Clarkson are examples that fall into that category.
Sorry to go off topic, but I just want to note some corrections. There is currently a moratorium on schools elevating a program to DI. Schools currently doing so are allowed to continue doing so. SLU and Clarkson do play up in hockey, but Vermont is DI.

As for Brown's team, I was at the BU game and I don't think the Bears played well that game.

Sean Pickett
 
Re: Brown Bears 2010 - 2011 - Dawn of a new Era

Careful my friend, they might just be tempted to roll you guys into this as well! ;)

LOL! We would be tied for second in that tough CHA league!!! Don't know how you guys grind it out every year with that level of competition. That may explain the "one and done" with the Lakers....
 
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Aside from the fact that it is a ridiculous idea.
Aside from the NCAA rules and regulations, is it a ridiculous idea? Look at international hockey, Davis Cup tennis and European football leagues to name a few that do this. They all regulate the bottom teams of higher divisions to the next lower division and promote the top teams from lower divisions to the next higher division. The only question would be how to do this in the NCAA. ;)

Sean Pickett
 
Re: Happy New Year to All

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This is a Brown thread, so I won't speak of St. Cloud other than with this one post.

http://www.uscho.com/scoreboard/st-cloud-state/womens-hockey/2009-2010/

That's the SCSU Huskies schedule results from the 2009-2010 season. A handful of wins, and shootout wins after OT ties, with some good results against formidable, or respectable opponents. They've been competitive in the WCHA in the recent past. To suggest they be put "on probation" with the threat of being tossed from division I after one poor season is ridiculous, and would still be ridiculous even if it were possible within NCAA rules.
 
Re: Brown Bears 2010 - 2011 - Dawn of a new Era

Aside from the NCAA rules and regulations, is it a ridiculous idea? Look at international hockey, Davis Cup tennis and European football leagues to name a few that do this. They all regulate the bottom teams of higher divisions to the next lower division and promote the top teams from lower divisions to the next higher division. The only question would be how to do this in the NCAA. ;)

Sean Pickett

International hockey, but definitely not in North America or the Leafs would have been dismissed from the NHL a while ago... ;)
 
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