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Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??

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dxmnkd316 said:
Ahem, Whales
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My apologies to all the people of the United Kingston.

Kepler said:
I've never heard this.

Do you mean the Catholics are outbreeding the Orange in Northern Ireland? Or are the carpetbaggers finally skedaddling back to whatever Merseyside sh-thole they came from?
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Technically, they're supposed to hold a periodic referendum (like Scotland did in 2014) but they don't need to in Northern Ireland. Voter registration and religion tell the story. When Catholics outnumber the Protestants and/or the number of Nationalists outnumber Unionists then it's a done deal. After the 2017 election the Unionists plurality is down to a one-vote margin in the Assembly. As of the 2011 census, the Catholic/Protestant split had swung in favor of the Protestants by .8% When those numbers translate to voter registration, then a referendum will be called and Ireland will be unified. The 2021 census and 2022 Assembly elections will tell us if the time has arrived.
 
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ticapnews said:
My apologies to all the people of the United Kingston.



Technically, they're supposed to hold a periodic referendum (like Scotland did in 2014) but they don't need to in Northern Ireland. Voter registration and religion tell the story. When Catholics outnumber the Protestants and/or the number of Nationalists outnumber Unionists then it's a done deal. After the 2017 election the Unionists plurality is down to a one-vote margin in the Assembly. As of the 2011 census, the Catholic/Protestant split had swung in favor of the Protestants by .8% When those numbers translate to voter registration, then a referendum will be called and Ireland will be unified. The 2021 census and 2022 Assembly elections will tell us if the time has arrived.
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If it's so close already I'm a little surprised there isn't a unification movement even by the dead ender Unionists to avoid the Trump-level stupidity of Brexit.

That would make life easier for the UK, too, although I'm sure the same level of slope forehead UKIP Cromagnon also blats about Durr Union Forever Durr!
 
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ticapnews said:
However, there is talk that even Wales may go for independence now, which was unheard of before.
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This will probably **** of any Welsh people, but that seems especially crazy since Wales has been part of England for so much longer than the other two. Like, yeah, I know they have their own culture and all, but if you're going to go that far back and split off Wales, why not revert to the Heptarchy too.

I know joe is getting excited thinking of all of the freedoms (tm) this will bring everyone.
 
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Kepler said:
If it's so close already I'm a little surprised there isn't a unification movement even by the dead ender Unionists to avoid the Trump-level stupidity of Brexit.

That would make life easier for the UK, too, although I'm sure the same level of slope forehead UKIP Cromagnon also blats about Durr Union Forever Durr!
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French Rage said:
This will probably **** of any Welsh people, but that seems especially crazy since Wales has been part of England for so much longer than the other two. Like, yeah, I know they have their own culture and all, but if you're going to go that far back and split off Wales, why not revert to the Heptarchy too.

I know joe is getting excited thinking of all of the freedoms (tm) this will bring everyone.
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Brexit has really ticked people off. Even with the demographics, a reunited Ireland only polled at 17% as recently as 2013. Polls now have that number as high as 62% (77% among 18-24) so Northern Ireland is gone. However, because of the statutory eight year period between referenda, the Nationalists don't want to pull the trigger early and then be stuck for a decade if they fail.

W(h)ales independence was similarly polling in the teens but now is up to 36% (from 27% in 2017) with 17% undecided.
 
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Is there a strong Welsh identity movement the way there is Irish and Scots? I always think of the Welsh as what if Native Americans retreated into the Rockies and told the whites "don't bother us and we won't bother you."

Edit: all hail Wikipedia.

Or if you prefer.
 
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ticapnews said:
Brexit has really ticked people off. Even with the demographics, a reunited Ireland only polled at 17% as recently as 2013. Polls now have that number as high as 62% (77% among 18-24) so Northern Ireland is gone. However, because of the statutory eight year period between referenda, the Nationalists don't want to pull the trigger early and then be stuck for a decade if they fail.

W(h)ales independence was similarly polling in the teens but now is up to 36% (from 27% in 2017) with 17% undecided.
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Out of curiosity, what are the numbers for Scotland?
 
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Holy ****. Under a buck and a quarter? Jeebus.

Edit: yeah, holy crap. That headline is deceiving. While technically correct, the best kind, they are flirting with over 30-year lows. The chart I looked up only went to 1994 and it was nowhere near 1.21. It bounced off that value in late 2016, but if it drops below 1.10 that would be unheard of in my lifetime I have to think.

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“The last low for sterling was $1.2049, reached in January 2017. The record low was $1.0545 from March 1985, just before G7 powers acted to constrain a particularly strong US currency”
 
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Jimjamesak said:
Out of curiosity, what are the numbers for Scotland?
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The vote in 2014 was 55-45 against. Since the 2016 Brexit decision, 25 polls have been conducted; 17 against independence, seven for and one was a statistical tie. Most experts thought Nicola Sturgeon's second referendum would fail but Boris Johnson makes that happenstance more likely. I am hoping it happens! Under Scottish law I'm a citizen so I can move there, but I'm not eager to return while it's still part of the UK (especially with Brexit)
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Holy ****. Under a buck and a quarter? Jeebus.

Edit: yeah, holy crap. That headline is deceiving. While technically correct, the best kind, they are flirting with over 30-year lows. The chart I looked up only went to 1994 and it was nowhere near 1.21. It bounced off that value in late 2016, but if it drops below 1.10 that would be unheard of in my lifetime I have to think.

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“The last low for sterling was $1.2049, reached in January 2017. The record low was $1.0545 from March 1985, just before G7 powers acted to constrain a particularly strong US currency”
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I went on a high school band trip in 2003/NY 2004, and IIRC the rate was something like $1.85-$1.95/£1 (depending on if you were smart and shopped around).

I don't think it's deceiving. They're already tanking and the hard Brexit isn't even 100% confirmed yet. With the tumultuousness of Brexit + a US recession in the next 18 months, they could easily be looking at being par or even slightly underwater vs. USD before that's over.
 
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Mookie just loaded up during the annual T&A sale... great bargains and watching the VAT disappear was an added bonus :D
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I could never get myself to pay 300+ for a single short. Jeebus.
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You might not be dealing in the same trading strata. The numbers I've seen come through the trust accounting system would really make people's jaws drop.
 
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