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Bracketology
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redhawkman10
Behind the bench
Re: Bracketology
Don't know what joik is...
and Im not Mr. Dynasty, you are awful bitter your team must be awful lol. 
I understand plenty there, Mr. Dynasty, go joik yourself a soda.
Don't know what joik is...
and Im not Mr. Dynasty, you are awful bitter your team must be awful lol. 
MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
Re: Bracketology
The NCAA will avoid intraconference matchups if they can. Just because they don't have to, doesn't mean they won't.
I don't think the number 5 was chosen arbitrarily...
The NCAA will avoid intraconference matchups if they can. Just because they don't have to, doesn't mean they won't.
I don't think the number 5 was chosen arbitrarily...
redhawkman10
Behind the bench
Re: Bracketology
Very true, it just gives them a loop hole should they want to ignore it. But you are correct in saying that they don't have to, in their minds it could keep the integrity of the bracket more to switch the 16 and 15 seeds.
Very true, it just gives them a loop hole should they want to ignore it. But you are correct in saying that they don't have to, in their minds it could keep the integrity of the bracket more to switch the 16 and 15 seeds.
redhawkman10
Behind the bench
Re: Bracketology
Looks like Moy made the switch and moved North Dakota to the Midwest against Miami. For me thats fine, we have unfinish business with them anyeays as Im sure they do with us. Would much rather play a tougher opponent in the first round, IMO you are better focused. Lots will change for next week as well, which will bring interesting debates again.
Looks like Moy made the switch and moved North Dakota to the Midwest against Miami. For me thats fine, we have unfinish business with them anyeays as Im sure they do with us. Would much rather play a tougher opponent in the first round, IMO you are better focused. Lots will change for next week as well, which will bring interesting debates again.
VarsityWisconsin
Registered User
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I think you guys are giving UND too much credit. They are 15th in the PWR so them getting matched up with the #1 overall seed shouldn't be a problem no matter how much name recognition they have.
I think you guys are giving UND too much credit. They are 15th in the PWR so them getting matched up with the #1 overall seed shouldn't be a problem no matter how much name recognition they have.
Dirty
#BanBiddy
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If they manage to learn how to score again, they can be a major problem. But that won't happen.
If they manage to learn how to score again, they can be a major problem. But that won't happen.
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Priceless
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Re: Bracketology
North Dakota is 14th in the RPI while playing the 4th toughest schedule.
RIT is 39th while playing the 56th toughest schedule.
I think there's a slight difference between the two.
North Dakota is 14th in the RPI while playing the 4th toughest schedule.
RIT is 39th while playing the 56th toughest schedule.
I think there's a slight difference between the two.
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And it's actually likely to be a team worse than RIT - they won't be a prohibitive favorite in their tourney, so the smart money is on the field.
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How are they not a favorite in their own tourney? It's played at the BCA (twenty minutes from their campus) and they are 4-2 against the other top 3 teams in their conference. If you're going to pull the "they can't perform in the tourney" excuse, they've only played in two tournaments, and never as the #1 seed. I just don't see RIT not winning the AHA this season.
How are they not a favorite in their own tourney? It's played at the BCA (twenty minutes from their campus) and they are 4-2 against the other top 3 teams in their conference. If you're going to pull the "they can't perform in the tourney" excuse, they've only played in two tournaments, and never as the #1 seed. I just don't see RIT not winning the AHA this season.
redhawkman10
Behind the bench
Re: Bracketology
Speaking for me Im not giving them too much credit. I have seen them play and what they can do when they play up to their ability. They went toe to toe with Miami and will be a tough out in the NCAA if they get in. Obviously they aren't playing very well at a bad time right now but season is far from over and things could turn around. Like I said before they won't be a 4 seed, it's either a min of 3 or out. Even if they go 3-3 against the 3 top 10 PWR opponents they have left those 3 victories will give them nice boosts and those loses won't kill them as much.
Speaking for me Im not giving them too much credit. I have seen them play and what they can do when they play up to their ability. They went toe to toe with Miami and will be a tough out in the NCAA if they get in. Obviously they aren't playing very well at a bad time right now but season is far from over and things could turn around. Like I said before they won't be a 4 seed, it's either a min of 3 or out. Even if they go 3-3 against the 3 top 10 PWR opponents they have left those 3 victories will give them nice boosts and those loses won't kill them as much.
redhawkman10
Behind the bench
Re: Bracketology
Well anything can happen, but your right they should and will be the favorite. One thing that some people are overlooking is the fact that Bemidji isn't a lock for the CHA. They have lost RMU and Niagra over the last 3 weeks, and should a team play desperate enough and Bemidji doesn't match their intensity a stumble could happen which would throw an huge wrench in the PWR.
Well anything can happen, but your right they should and will be the favorite. One thing that some people are overlooking is the fact that Bemidji isn't a lock for the CHA. They have lost RMU and Niagra over the last 3 weeks, and should a team play desperate enough and Bemidji doesn't match their intensity a stumble could happen which would throw an huge wrench in the PWR.
dggoddard
New member
Re: Bracketology
UND may flame out in the 1st Round WCHA playoffs, where they'll likely be a road team. Factor in a few CCHA & Hockey East playoff upsets and teams will start jumping around the bubble like popcorn on a hot Texas parking lot (thanks Dan Rather).
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redhawkman10
Behind the bench
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HAHAHAHAHA that might be one of the best lines I have ever read on here!
But you are exactly right, there is a lot still left to happen. Between now and selection day, UND will play atleast 8 games against TUC's and most likely tourny teams. What they do in those games will be huge, go under .500 and your most likely out. Go above .500 they probably slid up to a 3 because of RPI and SOS. Im not worried about it right now as a Miami fan, because frankly anything can happen and who you play doesn't matter. You will have to play some very good teams to get to Detriot anyways and the 4 seeds are stronger than they ever have been before.
HAHAHAHAHA that might be one of the best lines I have ever read on here!
But you are exactly right, there is a lot still left to happen. Between now and selection day, UND will play atleast 8 games against TUC's and most likely tourny teams. What they do in those games will be huge, go under .500 and your most likely out. Go above .500 they probably slid up to a 3 because of RPI and SOS. Im not worried about it right now as a Miami fan, because frankly anything can happen and who you play doesn't matter. You will have to play some very good teams to get to Detriot anyways and the 4 seeds are stronger than they ever have been before.
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(yes, yes, I left out the pesky math to do with the best 2 of 3 series)
No, no - they *are* the favorite. But they have to win 4 games to be champion. If they have an 80% chance of winning each game, that's only a 41% chance of winning the tournament, meaning it is more likely that they DON'T win the tournament than it is that they do.
(yes, yes, I left out the pesky math to do with the best 2 of 3 series)
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while UNDs RPI should hold steady given the relative strength of their remaining schedule, the thing that may ultimately sink UND is their record against TUCs... in just about every comparison (save denver), they are 5 games under .500 in the TUC category. It's going to be hard for them to flip those comparisons. not counting playoffs, they would have to sweep their SCSU, CC, and UMD series and not lose any current TUC wins to teams dropping out of consideration to get to 1 game above five hundred in those comparisons. a bit of a tall order given how up and down they have been this year.
By comparison, Maine, who they are tied with in the current PWR, is already at .500 in most comparisons and has a decent opportunity to at least maintain that through the end of the regular season.
while UNDs RPI should hold steady given the relative strength of their remaining schedule, the thing that may ultimately sink UND is their record against TUCs... in just about every comparison (save denver), they are 5 games under .500 in the TUC category. It's going to be hard for them to flip those comparisons. not counting playoffs, they would have to sweep their SCSU, CC, and UMD series and not lose any current TUC wins to teams dropping out of consideration to get to 1 game above five hundred in those comparisons. a bit of a tall order given how up and down they have been this year.
By comparison, Maine, who they are tied with in the current PWR, is already at .500 in most comparisons and has a decent opportunity to at least maintain that through the end of the regular season.
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What's so confusing about the word "prohibitive?"
In 2003, Cornell went 19-2-1 (.887) in conference - going into the tournament, they were a prohibitive favorite. The very next year, Colgate finished as the top team in the ECAC, but with only a 14-6-2 record (.682). RIT is currently .775 in conference, so yes, they are the favorite, but they are NOT a prohibitive favorite, and so it is likely (i.e. greater than 50% chance) that they will NOT win the auto-bid.
What's so confusing about the word "prohibitive?"
In 2003, Cornell went 19-2-1 (.887) in conference - going into the tournament, they were a prohibitive favorite. The very next year, Colgate finished as the top team in the ECAC, but with only a 14-6-2 record (.682). RIT is currently .775 in conference, so yes, they are the favorite, but they are NOT a prohibitive favorite, and so it is likely (i.e. greater than 50% chance) that they will NOT win the auto-bid.
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FYI - most in not all Sioux fans and many others would not characterize tying Miami on home ice as any great feat.
FYI - most in not all Sioux fans and many others would not characterize tying Miami on home ice as any great feat.
redhawkman10
Behind the bench
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It shouldn't be, they blew a two goal third period lead. But again READ carefully, I didn't say it was a "great feat". I simply watched that game carefully and UND played very well and went toe to toe with the team that is #1 in the PWR right now. They are capable of better than what they are playing, it will be interesting if they can show that. If they can't they most likely will be out of the tournament. Not sure your vendetta against UND but you are taking things all wrong. No one is saying UND deserves special consideration because of who they are or what they have accomplished. It will work itself out with their remaining schedule, so calm down there.
FYI - most in notall Sioux fans and many others would not characterize tying Miami on home ice as any great feat.
It shouldn't be, they blew a two goal third period lead. But again READ carefully, I didn't say it was a "great feat". I simply watched that game carefully and UND played very well and went toe to toe with the team that is #1 in the PWR right now. They are capable of better than what they are playing, it will be interesting if they can show that. If they can't they most likely will be out of the tournament. Not sure your vendetta against UND but you are taking things all wrong. No one is saying UND deserves special consideration because of who they are or what they have accomplished. It will work itself out with their remaining schedule, so calm down there.
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