Boston University season thread 4: Where BC comes to talk hockey

[mookie1995]

Great job by Quinn, but bad news for Mookie. "I'm in it for the long haul." "It's my dream job." So, Mook, you're going to have to become GM of the Pens and lure him away in 2025.

Guess mookie will settle for hynes

 

[ericredaxe]

Re: Boston University season thread 4: Where BC comes to talk hockey

Great hire, program just upgraded ten-fold instantly and will be more attractive for recruits. Hold on BU fans you are about to see how a college hockey program should be coached/run and for most you havent had that chance yet, atleast I had Kelly's last two years. I will give him a honeymoon until January.

So you are predicting 10 National Championships in the next 15 years.... and you will be calling for his head in February?

 

[Jofa]

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So you are predicting 10 National Championships in the next 15 years.... and you will be calling for his head in February?

No but I'll expect 6 or 7 FF in the next 15, beats the hell out of one... and mostly I will settle for not getting our brains beaten on the national scene by BC almost every year. With this hire, BU essentially just made their first significant move towards BC since York was hired (95/96?).

 

[Rover]

No but I'll expect 6 or 7 FF in the next 15, beats the hell out of one... and mostly I will settle for not getting our brains beaten on the national scene by BC almost every year. With this hire, BU essentially just made their first significant move towards BC since York was hired (95/96?).

Amen. I was thinking this on Friday. The last 3 times BC hasn't won the HE title, it was BU who took them out. The lesson? If you want something done right, you do it yourself. With a rise back to prominence BU can start climbing back to the top of the conference be it in the HE playoffs or on the national scene. I think Quinn can get us there, and will give him at least until the first game of the year next year to do so.

 

[fleabags]

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Good job by Quinn... since it is now official can we now add on the ever popular hockey nickname "-ie" to make it quinnie?

I was interested to hear his comments about Bavis and Powers... will be interesting to see who stays / who goes etc. Did others get the impression that for now, at least Bavis will be staying? (Didn't we read about Buddy buying a house somewhere near Bowling Green?)

Did he wear 11 in college?

Not that it matters at this point, but as I watch and listen, i really don't think JP was pushed out of here.... seems like there is just too much love going around for that to have been the case.

Seems like a great transition and as Quinn said I'm sure none of us can wait for next fall!

He did, in fact wear #7, and as a frequent Dugout companion of his back in the day, the "Quinny" thing has long since been taken care of. Absolutely the right choice, imo..

 

[Agganis]

Re: Boston University season thread 4: Where BC comes to talk hockey

Good job by Quinn... since it is now official can we now add on the ever popular hockey nickname "-ie" to make it quinnie?

No nicknames are fanboyish unless you work in the name of the most prestigious individual trophy one can win in his current role. The only question is whether to choose Quinncer Penrose or Spencer Quinnrose.

 

[pirate]

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Nothing was broken? One trip to FF in 15 years? Why did a committee investigate the program?

What was he going to say? For plenty of reasons he should give the impression nothing was broken. Not the same as saying nothing needs to be improved.

They need a new voice and a new whistle, they get that even if Quinn makes no other changes..so no need to bring up anything else that could/will be changed or improved.

It also would be disrespectful to Parker to imply you were going to come in and make changes to the way a HOF coach did things...not the time or place to do that.

If Quinn is confident he is ready for the job then he'll make subtle changes to how the team prepares, the attention they pay to penalties, not taking lesser ranked teams lightly, communication between HC and players etc. But he won't announce any of those as "Changes to the way Jack Parker used to do things"...they will just become the way David Quinn does things. And, god willing, it will produce better results

 

[terrierhockey]

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Amen. I was thinking this on Friday. The last 3 times BC hasn't won the HE title, it was BU who took them out. The lesson? If you want something done right, you do it yourself. With a rise back to prominence BU can start climbing back to the top of the conference be it in the HE playoffs or on the national scene. I think Quinn can get us there, and will give him at least until the first game of the year next year to do so.

Haven't been on here awhile - were this year's seniors the last of Quinn's recruits before he left in 09? And if so, do you give him 3 yrs, essentially, time for his own class to mature, before evaluating him as a head coach? Obviously, the new job begins the first day of practice, but it sounds like people are hoping for immediate effect. Not sure that happens when a crop of kids isn't his own.

 

[fleabags]

Re: Boston University season thread 4: Where BC comes to talk hockey

What was he going to say? For plenty of reasons he should give the impression nothing was broken. Not the same as saying nothing needs to be improved.

They need a new voice and a new whistle, they get that even if Quinn makes no other changes..so no need to bring up anything else that could/will be changed or improved.

It also would be disrespectful to Parker to imply you were going to come in and make changes to the way a HOF coach did things...not the time or place to do that.

If Quinn is confident he is ready for the job then he'll make subtle changes to how the team prepares, the attention they pay to penalties, not taking lesser ranked teams lightly, communication between HC and players etc. But he won't announce any of those as "Changes to the way Jack Parker used to do things"...they will just become the way David Quinn does things. And, god willing, it will produce better results

Agreed. There were "issues", but to say it's "broken" is just absurd. There are plenty of programs that would die to be as "broken" as BU..

 

[KnightsOfTheRound]

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Haven't been on here awhile - were this year's seniors the last of Quinn's recruits before he left in 09?

From the Freep twitter:

Boston Hockey Blog @BOShockeyblog
Quinn recruited Megan. RT @wmmegan Congrats to Coach Quinn, Terrier fans should be very excited about the future of this program #BUhockey

 

[brassbonanza]

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Haven't been on here awhile - were this year's seniors the last of Quinn's recruits before he left in 09? And if so, do you give him 3 yrs, essentially, time for his own class to mature, before evaluating him as a head coach? Obviously, the new job begins the first day of practice, but it sounds like people are hoping for immediate effect. Not sure that happens when a crop of kids isn't his own.

I believe he had a hand in the initial recruiting of some of this year's rising seniors. They arrived on campus in the fall of 2010, so inevitably, some were scouted and initially recruited before Quinn left in the summer of 2009.

That said, there isn't much of a dearth of talent on this squad, and it's not as drastic as in football where you bring in a new head coach and he's got to implement guys that run his scheme. Certainly he'll probably do some things different than Parker from an X's and O's perspective, but I don't see him going to the MacDonald clutch and grab and fall asleep offense that would require certain guys. It's fair to evaluate on ice results after one season because he has enough pieces right now even if #13 and #19 leave to have a successful season, but we won't know his direct impact on recruiting for at least a year or two.

 

[ericredaxe]

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Haven't been on here awhile - were this year's seniors the last of Quinn's recruits before he left in 09? And if so, do you give him 3 yrs, essentially, time for his own class to mature, before evaluating him as a head coach? Obviously, the new job begins the first day of practice, but it sounds like people are hoping for immediate effect. Not sure that happens when a crop of kids isn't his own.

We will see... it sounds like the incoming recruits had been told all along that JP may or may not be there for all or any of their four years so hopefully this is not a surprise to any of them and nobody jumps ship...

It has been widely speculated on here that the talent is not the issue, and if that is the case, there is no reason we should not expect to see very good teams right from the start. Even Jack has said next years team should be really really good.

But I agree with what you are getting at... we should not be in a rush to jump to conclusions on Quinny's D) performance... but I have a feeling that it won't take many slumps or losing streaks before people on here start calling him out... its just the nature of sports.

 

[Agganis]

Re: Boston University season thread 4: Where BC comes to talk hockey

Quinn would have been around for some of the earlier commits in this year's current junior class, but more importantly when he was here before the D got better every year, and the players themselves whether existing or his recruits generally improved throughout their BU careers (Think of where Gryba started and finished). BU was much better with Quinn on the bench coaching Durocher's guys than when Durocher was. I'd say he gets at least 3 to 4 years to prove it, but I don't think he'll need it

 

[fleabags]

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We will see... it sounds like the incoming recruits had been told all along that JP may or may not be there for all or any of their four years so hopefully this is not a surprise to any of them and nobody jumps ship...

It has been widely speculated on here that the talent is not the issue, and if that is the case, there is no reason we should not expect to see very good teams right from the start. Even Jack has said next years team should be really really good.

But I agree with what you are getting at... we should not be in a rush to jump to conclusions on Quinny's D) performance... but I have a feeling that it won't take many slumps or losing streaks before people on here start calling him out... its just the nature of sports.

Eric:

I for one will not be one of those people. This is a long-term investment for us Terriers, as I see it.

 

[ericredaxe]

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This is a long-term investment for us Terriers, as I see it.

I agree.

 

[mookie1995]

feel free to figure out who falls between Q arrival on campus and his departure - and whom he would have talked to before leaving.........

Player________________Date of Commitment
Robbie Baillargeon-RW 4/11/2011
Jarrid Privitera-LC 4/8/2011
Marc Hetnik-LD 4/1/2011
Danny O'Regan-C 2/24/2011
Brendan Collier-LW 1/14/2011
Evan Rodrigues-RC 12/12/2010
Matthew O'Connor-G 8/7/2010
Adam Erne-LW 7/15/2010
Anthony DeAngelo-RD 7/8/2010
Garrett Noonan-LD 5/28/2010
Patrick MacGregor-RD 4/5/2010
Matt Grzelczyk-LD 3/9/2010
Matt Grzelczyk-LD 3/9/2010
Sahir Gill-LW 11/24/2009
Matt Nieto-RW 10/6/2009
Alexx Privitera-RD 9/25/2009
Alexx Privitera-RD 9/25/2009
Adam Clendening-RD 9/25/2009
Cason Hohmann-C 8/13/2009
Cason Hohmann-C 8/13/2009
Robert Polesello-LC 8/9/2009
Robert Polesello-LC 8/9/2009
Ryan Santana-RW 7/1/2009
Justin Courtnall-LW 12/18/2008
Yasin Cisse-RW 11/24/2008
Yasin Cisse-RW 11/24/2008
Alex Chiasson-RW 11/3/2008
Charlie Coyle-RW 10/19/2008
Carlie Coyle-RW 10/19/2008
Sean Escobedo-D 7/30/2008
Wade Megan-LW 7/30/2008
Ryan Ruikka-RD 3/2/2008
Grant Rollheiser-G 2/26/2008
Kevin Gilroy-RW 2/26/2008
Ross Gaudet-LW 12/1/2007
Chris Connolly-LC 10/3/2007
Vinny Saponari-RW 9/24/2007
Ethan Werek-LW 5/5/2007
Adam Kraus-G 3/30/2007
Joe Periera-RC 3/20/2007
Victor Saponari-W 3/1/2007
Max Nicastro-RD 2/28/2007
Max Nicastro-RD 2/28/2007
Kieran Millan-G 2/23/2007
Andrew Glass-LW 1/19/2007
Ben Rosen-LD 12/15/2006
David Warsofsky-LD 8/26/2006
Nick Bonino-LC 8/18/2006
Corey Trivino-LC 8/4/2006
Colin Wilson-LC 7/14/2006
*Luke Popko-LC 1/7/2006
*Eric Gryba-RD 11/23/2005
Colby Cohen-RD 10/25/2005
Kevin Shattenkirk-LD 10/25/2005
*Zach Cohen-LW 6/25/2005
Matt Gilroy-D 5/10/2005
%Brett Bennett-G 1/21/2005
Craig Sanders-C 8/1/2004
%Brian Strait-LD 7/29/2004
Steve Smolinsky-RW 5/19/2004
Brandon Yip-RW 5/14/2004
Pat Percella-RW 3/15/2004
Ryan Monaghan-LW 3/15/2004
Kevin Kielt-LD 2/27/2004
Ryan Weston-RW 1/16/2004
Chris Higgins-RC/LW 1/10/2004
Karson Gillespie-G 11/17/2003
John McCarthy-LC 6/17/2003
Boomer Ewing-RC 5/17/2003
Jason Lawrence-RW 5/15/2003
Peter MacArthur-LW 4/15/2003
Dan McGoff-RD 10/4/2002
Chris Bourque-LW 8/15/2002
Brian McGuirk-LW 8/13/2002

 

[fleabags]

Re: Boston University season thread 4: Where BC comes to talk hockey

Chris Bourque's response - "duh"..

 

[Friend_of_BU_Hockey]

Re: Boston University season thread 4: Where BC comes to talk hockey

Quinn would have been around for some of the earlier commits in this year's current junior class, but more importantly when he was here before the D got better every year, and the players themselves whether existing or his recruits generally improved throughout their BU careers (Think of where Gryba started and finished). BU was much better with Quinn on the bench coaching Durocher's guys than when Durocher was. I'd say he gets at least 3 to 4 years to prove it, but I don't think he'll need it

Add Dan Spang, Sean Sullivan, Matt Gilroy onto that list of defensemen whose development was greatly aided by Quinn. None of them were recruited by Quinn.

 

[Rover]

Haven't been on here awhile - were this year's seniors the last of Quinn's recruits before he left in 09? And if so, do you give him 3 yrs, essentially, time for his own class to mature, before evaluating him as a head coach? Obviously, the new job begins the first day of practice, but it sounds like people are hoping for immediate effect. Not sure that happens when a crop of kids isn't his own.

As has been mentioned by some other posters, I too firmly believe the problem is the game plan and how well the coach relates/inspires/kicksass/ with the team. Unlike some of the dark years of BU hockey, this team does have talent. In fact, its a shame how they've underperformed. O'Regan, Gretzky, Hohmann, Nieto, Rodrigues, Goonan, both goalies, etc. There's definitely some players to work with. They need to ditch the constipated offense, improve the PP, and get more disciplined by eliminating stupid penalties.

So for me provided these guys stick around I'm looking at 2 years from now as Quinn's break out season. Provided no major defections (a BIG if, but humor me), you'll have a senior class of Hohman, Rodrigues and hopefully Privitera with O'Regan, Lane, Kurker, Oksanen and Grzelcyk plus the two goalies as juniors. Add in whatever he recruits as freshman and that should be a reaaaallll solid team.

 

[Friend_of_BU_Hockey]

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feel free to figure out who falls between Q arrival on campus and his departure - and whom he would have talked to before leaving

Thanks for generating the list. He came aboard in the 2004 offseason; I believe Strait & Bennett were his first "big" recruits. I'm sure he had a hand in recruiting Clendening, Nieto, Hohmann and Privitera before departing.

The things that stand out to me on the list are:

- Early departures (Wilson, Bonino, Shattenkirk, Cohen, Warsofsky, Coyle, Chiasson, Clendening, Courtnall, Cisse). He coached Warsofsky 1 year, and never coached Coyle, Chiasson, Clendening, Courtnall, Cisse.
- Dismissals from the team (Bennett, Saponaris, Glass, Trivino, Nicastro). Again, he coached Vinny, Glass & Trivino 1 year, and didn't coach Nicastro at all.

One can speculate whether Quinn's could've mitigated some of the early departures (of players he didn't coach) or the off-ice issues if he had been around the past 4 years...